Escalation in Israel

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Creating “a Palestinian State for Palestinian[s]” has been offered repeatedly, and the arabs demand that said state encompass ALL of Israel and be Judenfrei.

So, no, creating such a state will not “cause peace” because the arabs do not want a limited state. They want the entire area of land that is Israel and they want all the Jewish residents expelled.

Not sure how many times you have to hear this.[/quote]

Don’t give them a choice , Set it up and be kind , No 2 sets of rules , no discrimination
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Palestine refuses. Now what?[/quote]

Well, Obama could unfriend them on Facebook, like he did to Putin.

Sends a message, that unfriending!

What a loser.[/quote]

From the article - "Just this week Russia violated an arms treaty by testing a new type of cruise missile; and Obamaâ??s response was to send a letter to Vladimir Putin (not joking) explaining his disapproval. Future ramifications might include a new hashtag campaign, unfriending Putin on Facebook, or sending angry text messages late at night. "

What’s your point, or did you even read the article in question?

Regardless, the INF is an archaic treaty that the U.S. would benefit from withdrawing from itself. As it stands, American land based missile systems have a range of less than 300 kilometers, which is far too short to maximize deterrence. The offense-defense balance of the 21st century will necessitate that the U.S. augment its own conventionally tipped intermediate range ballistic missiles. Modern missile corps represent the cutting edge of anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) weapon systems, and the American military must be able to field comparable forces to dampen the power protection capabilities of would-be regional hegemons, as well as ensuring access to strategically vital areas.

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

Stop with this ancient history tribal BS. Its all invented. Its all out of a tedious Holy Book - like reading the Koran for historical accuracy.

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I made no reference to the bible. The Philistines were Mycenaean Greeks who came from Crete to Canaan. Their pottery has be excavated. It is likely they were the “sea people” who raided Kemet’s trade routes in the Mediterranean. The Canaanites were Semitic people inhabiting the region prior to the Hebrews. This is historical fact. When one makes the absurd claim that Palestinians have “always” been in Israel it needs to be examined. For example, the British allowed around 1 million Arabs to migrate to the mandate between 1929 and 1939.

I don’t understand. How did they “always” live there? Clearly I have much to learn on the matter. Please enlighten me.

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it was their land taken from them by the colonial administration. It is not difficult to understand. [/quote]

Well it is. I’m confused as to how Palestinians “always” lived there. Please explain.

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All the presumably non Jewish Americans on this thread might want to ask themselves why they so fervently defend a country that they could not live in and which cares absolutely nothing about them? Whether you are an Iranian Muslim or a WASP American, ultimately you are all simply ‘people who aren’t Jews’ in any Israeli analysis.

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[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:
When people use the term cultural marxist, which is not a thing, you know they might have some questionable positions. [/quote]

This is completely irrelevant to any topic what-so-ever. WTF are you even talking about?

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:
Stop with this ancient history [/quote]

Like I’ve said… You ignore history you dont’ like.

And have the nerve to insult Americans and call me a racist.

You are a clown.

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:
All the presumably non Jewish Americans on this thread might want to ask themselves why they so fervently defend a country that they could not live in and which cares absolutely nothing about them? Whether you are an Iranian Muslim or a WASP American, ultimately you are all simply ‘people who aren’t Jews’ in any Israeli analysis. [/quote]

Realpolitik demands that the U.S. has a vested interest in Israel.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:
When people use the term cultural marxist, which is not a thing, you know they might have some questionable positions. [/quote]

This is completely irrelevant to any topic what-so-ever. WTF are you even talking about?[/quote]

The term cultural marxist has been brought up a few times in this thread.

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

Sorry, when did we establish that Palestinians “always lived on it?” I must have missed that part. Are the Palestinians Mycenaean Greeks(Philistines) or Canaanites or something? Where are we going with this?[/quote]

Stop with this ancient history tribal BS. Its all invented. Its all out of a tedious Holy Book - like reading the Koran for historical accuracy.

The people who were displaced by Israel were the people who had always lived there it was their land taken from them by the colonial administration. It is not difficult to understand. [/quote]

ROFLMAO.

The Philistines (aka the “sea peoples”) are well-recorded in lots of places, including Egyptian records. They were from Crete (probably – but certainly Greek), early iron users, and beat the hell out of everyone along the coast.

The Arabs who call themselves Palestinians are a mix of people from Arabia, Egypt, and — shocker — Jews that had been forced to convert to Islam. Most will readily tell you are they are colonist from 3-4 generations ago.

In fact, the closest genetic relative of the Ashkenazi from Europe are the Samaritans (who never left) followed by the Palestinians.

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

As I have already pointed out. Israel did not choose to displace them originally. The international community had moved to set up two separate states, Palestine and Israel with Jerusalem being shared and neutral. The Arabs refused and the surrounding nations, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt attacked. This led to a civil war between the Palestinians and the Israelis. Palestine was soundly defeated. If they didn’t want to suffer the effects of war, maybe they shouldn’t have started one.

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The Palestinians did not start a war. The states around Israel and Palestine attacked Israel, and so Israel took the opportunity to displace millions of Palestinians and occupy their land. The Palestinian people did nothing wrong. [/quote]

Actually they did. They fought on the losing side with their fellow Muslims, instead of allowing the Jews to live in peace.

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:
Ultimately you are all simply ‘people who aren’t Jews’ in any Israeli analysis. [/quote]

Hmmm. Let’s ask if they care:

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Where are they going to launch missiles from , not Gaza[/quote]

Well that is quite the plan, takeover gaza and delcare it part of Israel then Israel can just fight with itself since killing people in your own country is more acceptable.[/quote]

It can fight until the cows come home . I don’t care . for it’s sake it needs to resolve this issue

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I think we should discuss what will be more lopsided, Israel v Palestine or Diaz V Silva.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Where are they going to launch missiles from , not Gaza[/quote]

Well that is quite the plan, takeover gaza and delcare it part of Israel then Israel can just fight with itself since killing people in your own country is more acceptable.[/quote]

It can fight until the cows come home . I don’t care . for it’s sake it needs to resolve this issue
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What is Humas Mr. Pittbull?

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
You are aware that a two state solution was proposed after WWII and agreed upon by the Jews, but rejected by the Palestinians. [/quote]

IMO there is already a two state solution. Israel is one state, Jordan is the other.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]ScholesGoals wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Creating “a Palestinian State for Palestinian[s]” has been offered repeatedly, and the arabs demand that said state encompass ALL of Israel and be Judenfrei.

So, no, creating such a state will not “cause peace” because the arabs do not want a limited state. They want the entire area of land that is Israel and they want all the Jewish residents expelled.

Not sure how many times you have to hear this.[/quote]

Don’t give them a choice , Set it up and be kind , No 2 sets of rules , no discrimination
[/quote]
Palestine refuses. Now what?[/quote]

Well, Obama could unfriend them on Facebook, like he did to Putin.

Sends a message, that unfriending!

What a loser.[/quote]

Do you think Obama is a socialist or a muslim?
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He’s an Alinsky-ite.

In case you’re wondering, Saul Alinsky was a community organizer in the IRA. Born in the Shanhill Road district of west Belfast, he did most of his work in the Donegall Pass area where he is reputed to be responsible for hundreds of thousands of British deaths during the Troubles.

He also was a professor at Belfast’s St. Mary’s University where Barack Obama’s father, Sean, an Irish fisherman, majored in Russian literature. Sean was thus able to tutor young Bam in the ways of community organizing and launch him into his political career that has presently taken him to the Oval Office.

It really is an amazing story. Do you have any more of your own?[/quote]

This is true. Most people don’t realise that after Barack moved to Saudi Arabia he taught gender studies at the university of Riyadh and along with Osama bin Laden he organised radical feminist demonstrations where women took their gloves off and walked in the streets unaccompanied by male relatives. The Obama/Osama feminist/transgender nexus is key to understanding the motivations of the organiser in chief.