[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
These fuckers are so stupid, they shot rockets at THEIR OWN POWER PLANT. LMAO
Now Gaza doesn’t have electricity.
Then they expect Israel to fix it… Way to think it through.[/quote]
I do not know but I would suspect this may be dis info . Israel would not look good if they continue to punish Palestine for Hamas’s actions
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Why do you keep making up stupid shit dude.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
These fuckers are so stupid, they shot rockets at THEIR OWN POWER PLANT. LMAO
Now Gaza doesn’t have electricity.
Then they expect Israel to fix it… Way to think it through.[/quote]
I do not know but I would suspect this may be dis info . Israel would not look good if they continue to punish Palestine for Hamas’s actions
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Why? They ELECTED them… Why should they not be punished for the actions of those they democratically elected?
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
These fuckers are so stupid, they shot rockets at THEIR OWN POWER PLANT. LMAO
Now Gaza doesn’t have electricity.
Then they expect Israel to fix it… Way to think it through.[/quote]
I do not know but I would suspect this may be dis info . Israel would not look good if they continue to punish Palestine for Hamas’s actions
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Why? They ELECTED them… Why should they not be punished for the actions of those they democratically elected?[/quote]
I do know there is SO MUCH dis info Gaza-Israel conflict: 'It's not worth living' - BBC News
Another point I understand is no one wants Gaza , it is the most densely populated area on Earth and very little industry to support it’s self . If it were America we would (AT LEAST THE DEMS) be talking economic development
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Another point I understand is no one wants Gaza , it is the most densely populated area on Earth and very little industry to support it’s self . If it were America we would (AT LEAST THE DEMS) be talking economic development [/quote]
Stop making crap up.
Paris and Athens are more than four times more densely populated than Gaza.
New York, Chicago, Boston, and San Francisco are all more densely populated than Gaza â?? as are the Israeli cities of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
And Gaza has received more economic development aid, per capita, than any nation in the world. 10s of times of what, say, Germany got after it was completely leveled by the USA and allies.
Seriously, just stop lying.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Seriously, just stop lying.
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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Stop making crap up.
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you think I am the only one making crap up there is a war of disinformation raging every where , IMO you have to read between the lines , All the time , in every country
Take any situation , Benghazi, Our economy, minimum wage , Iraq, Iran , China they are all subjects that have people being winners and losers on what popular opinion has it. If you think we are not swimming in an Ocean of disinformation , I feel sorry for you
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO you have to read between the lines, All the time , in every country
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READ: No matter what you hear to the contrary, just make it fit your already preconceived ideas.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
you think I am the only one making crap up
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At least you admit you are “making crap up.”
Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Only 11 more to go.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Take any situation , Benghazi, Our economy, minimum wage , Iraq, Iran , China they are all subjects that have people being winners and losers on what popular opinion has it. If you think we are not swimming in an Ocean of disinformation , I feel sorry for you[/quote]
And so this justifies your lying how, exactly?
You expect me to believe Humas blew up Palestine’s electrical grid and expect me top think they did it with Palestine’s blessing . This is where the CJS makes no sense , Defy common sense .
If Humas did the dastardly deed then , then they did it (NOT) for Palestine .
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO you have to read between the lines, All the time , in every country
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READ: No matter what you hear to the contrary, just make it fit your already preconceived ideas. [/quote]
No , explain to me what possible benefit Humas would have to blow up Palestine’s electrical grid ? That is an essential question
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Take any situation , Benghazi, Our economy, minimum wage , Iraq, Iran , China they are all subjects that have people being winners and losers on what popular opinion has it. If you think we are not swimming in an Ocean of disinformation , I feel sorry for you[/quote]
And so this justifies your lying how, exactly?[/quote]
I am stating nothing as fact I am saying there is more to this story than is being discussed
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO you have to read between the lines, All the time , in every country
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READ: No matter what you hear to the contrary, just make it fit your already preconceived ideas. [/quote]
No , explain to me what possible benefit Humas would have to blow up Palestine’s electrical grid ? That is an essential question
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They didn’t do it deliberately. One of their rockets fired into Israel brought down power lines. It might be an idea to actually read the story before you start playing make believe conspiracies.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO you have to read between the lines, All the time , in every country
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READ: No matter what you hear to the contrary, just make it fit your already preconceived ideas. [/quote]
No , explain to me what possible benefit Humas would have to blow up Palestine’s electrical grid ? That is an essential question
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They lob their rockets into civilian Israeli targets with little regard to what they hit.
Not a major mystery.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Take any situation , Benghazi, Our economy, minimum wage , Iraq, Iran , China they are all subjects that have people being winners and losers on what popular opinion has it. If you think we are not swimming in an Ocean of disinformation , I feel sorry for you[/quote]
And so this justifies your lying how, exactly?[/quote]
I am stating nothing as fact I am saying there is more to this story than is being discussed
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No, you lied saying Gaza was the “most densely populated place on earth.”
You were proven a liar.
You justified your lie by saying others lied.
I think you are still on Step 1 of 12.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO you have to read between the lines, All the time , in every country
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READ: No matter what you hear to the contrary, just make it fit your already preconceived ideas. [/quote]
No , explain to me what possible benefit Humas would have to blow up Palestine’s electrical grid ? That is an essential question
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They didn’t do it deliberately. One of their rockets fired into Israel brought down power lines. It might be an idea to actually read the story before you start playing make believe conspiracies.[/quote]
The biggest point I got out of the article is how much Palestine owes Israel to furnish electricity to their confinement
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO you have to read between the lines, All the time , in every country
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READ: No matter what you hear to the contrary, just make it fit your already preconceived ideas. [/quote]
No , explain to me what possible benefit Humas would have to blow up Palestine’s electrical grid ? That is an essential question
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I was under the impression from the article, maybe mistakenly as several others have thought this was just an accident, that they shot the electrical grid (that is Israeli owned) thinking that Israel would then have to spend time and resources fixing it, also presenting the opportunity for pot-shots at those working on the powerplant. Cause and effect has not proven to be their strong suit, proven by the attempted attack on the nuclear plant.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
IMO you have to read between the lines, All the time , in every country
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READ: No matter what you hear to the contrary, just make it fit your already preconceived ideas. [/quote]
No , explain to me what possible benefit Humas would have to blow up Palestine’s electrical grid ? That is an essential question
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I was under the impression from the article, maybe mistakenly as several others have thought this was just an accident, that they shot the electrical grid (that is Israeli owned) thinking that Israel would then have to spend time and resources fixing it, also presenting the opportunity for pot-shots at those working on the powerplant. Cause and effect has not proven to be their strong suit, proven by the attempted attack on the nuclear plant.
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I could buy accidents happen , I could even buy that it was true , I am just saying just because an article by a obviously Israeli sympathetic paper says this is the story does not make it fact .
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
I’ll have one post on this.
First, contrast the kidnapping/murder of the 3 Yeshiva students (one of which is American) and the murder of the arab boy.
The arab officials celebrating the kidnapping, the muslim religious leaders celebrated the murders, the arab media celebrated teh kidnappings, the arab population celebrated the kidnappings, and they generally thought the murder of the 3 boys was great. They sheltered the killers. In short, it was not a "fringe’ part of the arabs. It was mainstream.
The murder of the arab boy, in contrast, was condemned for what it was — murder — by the Israeli government, religious leaders, media, and people. The Israeli police arrested the alleged murderers and they are sure to face justice.
The arabs don’t care, however.
In fact, one of the mothers of 3 Yeshiva boys tried to come by with flowers for the mother of the arab boy; she was turned away by rock throwers. The arab boy’s mother was on the BBC yesterday saying she “didn’t want flowers; she wanted dead Jews.”
So, yes, there is no moral equivalency here.
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Regarding the lie that Israel does not want peace or a PA state. Well, a PA state has been offered hundreds of times. In fact, it started out that way — a PA state and a Jewish state.
The arabs flatly refused to permit a Jewish state to exist and continue to refuse today.
That is the sole serious issue; the rest could be handled by a couple of surveyors, some emails, a couple of real estate appraisals, and a little cash going both ways to private landowners. Texas and Oklahoma have more complicated land owning issues along the Red River.
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Your refusal to capitalize Arabs or Muslims tells me all I need to know about your stance.[/quote]
Would you show respect to a group of people who murdered your family? Moron.
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No, that’s why I never capitalize “asian,” because my uncle was killed in vietnam (also not capitalized).
More importantly, if one is describing the murder of a kid, and, in an attempt at belittlement, one intentionally refuses to capitalize a proper-noun descriptor of the victim’s ethnicity while at the same time capitalizing other proper nouns correctly, one is a legitimate target of criticism.
Moron.
[I say this while agreeing with the pro-Israel position in this thread.]
Edited to temper undue harshness[/quote]
You believe there is a moral equivalency between blowing up civilians on a bus and killing an enemy soldier on a battlefield? Really?
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No, I believe that it is stupid to hold races and groups responsible for the things some of their members do. Really.
Again, If one is describing the murder of a kid, and, in an attempt at belittlement, one intentionally refuses to capitalize a proper-noun descriptor of the victim’s ethnicity while at the same time capitalizing other proper nouns correctly, one is a legitimate target of criticism.
You disagree?[/quote]
I do disagree. It’s not just some arab Palestinians who participate and support in the murder of Israeli citizens. Polls show upwards of 80% of Palestinians support Hamas whose stated goal is the destruction of Israel. When a vast majority of a people support violence, it is more than fair to hold the entire group in contempt.
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Oh boy. I can’t wait to pull this one out at a later date and bash you over the head with it. Polls showed that Southern whites in the first half of the 20th century were overwhelmingly racist. So, all of your relatives who lived in the South then were racists by definition. Is that how it works?
You’re also forgetting that the words he refused to capitalize were “Arab” and “Muslim”, not Palestinian. Try applying your logic to Arabs and Muslims. [/quote]
So where both northerners and blacks.