Equipment Sharing Etiquette

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
If working in involves the removal of countless plates after each turn, then it’s pretty impractical and probably an unreasonable request. If it’s taking a few plates off each time, stop being such a fucking dick. We all started somewhere. And some people have different goals.
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I think this is all anyone is saying.[/quote]

no it’s not. i read a bunch of tired worn-out douchebaggery about being big and making progress. and people being too intimidated to ask certain people to work in.

like i said, some around here probably should have stayed smaller; they probably would have been nicer people. [/quote]

No, your reading comprehension is just as poor as ever. That is all.

I suggest blood pressure medication and a Xanax.
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reading comprehension is precious coming from you. next thing you know, you’re a master of logic.

blood pressure is about 110/80 and I don’t suck wind after bodybuilding sets - no matter what the altitude :slight_smile: might want to check your own shit.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
If working in involves the removal of countless plates after each turn, then it’s pretty impractical and probably an unreasonable request. If it’s taking a few plates off each time, stop being such a fucking dick. We all started somewhere. And some people have different goals.
[/quote]

I think this is all anyone is saying.[/quote]

no it’s not. i read a bunch of tired worn-out douchebaggery about being big and making progress. and people being too intimidated to ask certain people to work in.

like i said, some around here probably should have stayed smaller; they probably would have been nicer people. [/quote]

No, your reading comprehension is just as poor as ever. That is all.

I suggest blood pressure medication and a Xanax.
[/quote]

reading comprehension is precious coming from you. next thing you know, you’re a master of logic.

blood pressure is about 110/80 and I don’t suck wind after bodybuilding sets - no matter what the altitude :slight_smile: might want to check your own shit.
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LOL. Talk shit when you put yourself out there for critique. As it stands, you haven’t done that.

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[quote]OBoile wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I have the feeling some of you pitiful motherfuckers would be a lot nicer if you hadn’t gotten relatively “big”. But then again, the same reason you pitiful motherfuckers made it your life’s dream to get big is probably the same reason you’re a dick now.

Anyway, asking to work in is a matter of practicality - NOT how big some insecure douchebag is or how much progress someone is making, or a measure of how scary or intimidating you THINK you are. If working in involves the removal of countless plates after each turn, then it’s pretty impractical and probably an unreasonable request. If it’s taking a few plates off each time, stop being such a fucking dick. We all started somewhere. And some people have different goals.

First, LOL at the leg press. What’s next? The smith machine? Next, not many of you so-called “big” “progressive” motherfuckers here are squatting north of 500; so if someone “smaller” or “weaker” than you wants to work in for squats (for instance), you’re removing maybe 3-4 plates each set? Big fucking deal.

A few of you assholes could really use some humility.

If you don’t like sharing, go get your own space and own equipment.[/quote]

It all comes back to:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Most importantly 4) Don’t be a dick.
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I lift with my wife, so plates get added or removed for every set. It really isn’t that big of a deal. If you can leg press 20 plates, lifting one at a time shouldn’t take much effort.

If you’ve got just a couple of sets left, then sure, finish up. If you’re going to be there for 1/2 hour and there is no where else the guy can go, let him work in even if it means moveing the plates.[/quote]

I think part of the difference is that you always train together just like BB and I always train together. We’re used to training in a group or as part of a club so the stripping and loading is a planned part of training. When we hit the gym, I know what my working sets will be and what his will be so we have the plates ready to put on and pull off. We’re all used to doing it.

I’m not sure how excited I would be to work in with someone random at the gym particularly if rack heights were different. I’d do it but I couldn’t see it running as quickly and smoothly as doing it with a group that frequently works together.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Leave Bodyguard alone. Menopause is no picnic.[/quote]

well if i’m going thru menopause (and I may very well be given my advanced age), what the mother fuck is your excuse for being weaker than me? and why are you in the middle of a discussion about “size and progress”. [/quote]

lol this guy is too easy, serving up the perfect catty response and proving my point.

Old people crack me up

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[quote]Quick Ben wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Leave Bodyguard alone. Menopause is no picnic.[/quote]

well if i’m going thru menopause (and I may very well be given my advanced age), what the mother fuck is your excuse for being weaker than me? and why are you in the middle of a discussion about “size and progress”. [/quote]

lol this guy is too easy, serving up the perfect catty response and proving my point.

Old people crack me up[/quote]

Proving what point? the one that suggested he has menopause? lol

This coming from the guy who’s beating around the bush instead of answering BG’s question.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Leave Bodyguard alone. Menopause is no picnic.[/quote]

well if i’m going thru menopause (and I may very well be given my advanced age), what the mother fuck is your excuse for being weaker than me? and why are you in the middle of a discussion about “size and progress”. [/quote]

lol this guy is too easy, serving up the perfect catty response and proving my point.

Old people crack me up[/quote]

Proving what point? the one that suggested he has menopause? lol

This coming from the guy who’s beating around the bush instead of answering BG’s question. [/quote]

Are you serious with this? lol

He has 20 years in the gym to my 1 year, I should hope he is stronger.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Leave Bodyguard alone. Menopause is no picnic.[/quote]

well if i’m going thru menopause (and I may very well be given my advanced age), what the mother fuck is your excuse for being weaker than me? and why are you in the middle of a discussion about “size and progress”. [/quote]

lol this guy is too easy, serving up the perfect catty response and proving my point.

Old people crack me up[/quote]

Proving what point? the one that suggested he has menopause? lol

This coming from the guy who’s beating around the bush instead of answering BG’s question. [/quote]

? You mean the question of why he is weaker?

Why are you weaker than me?

Don’t beat around the bush, mind you.

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[quote]Quick Ben wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Leave Bodyguard alone. Menopause is no picnic.[/quote]

well if i’m going thru menopause (and I may very well be given my advanced age), what the mother fuck is your excuse for being weaker than me? and why are you in the middle of a discussion about “size and progress”. [/quote]

lol this guy is too easy, serving up the perfect catty response and proving my point.

Old people crack me up[/quote]

Proving what point? the one that suggested he has menopause? lol

This coming from the guy who’s beating around the bush instead of answering BG’s question. [/quote]

Are you serious with this? lol

He has 20 years in the gym to my 1 year, I should hope he is stronger.
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lol. You chalk up BG’s posting style to having old man menopause, and then question the sincerity of my post. Thats a good one.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Leave Bodyguard alone. Menopause is no picnic.[/quote]

well if i’m going thru menopause (and I may very well be given my advanced age), what the mother fuck is your excuse for being weaker than me? and why are you in the middle of a discussion about “size and progress”. [/quote]

lol this guy is too easy, serving up the perfect catty response and proving my point.

Old people crack me up[/quote]

Proving what point? the one that suggested he has menopause? lol

This coming from the guy who’s beating around the bush instead of answering BG’s question. [/quote]

? You mean the question of why he is weaker?

Why are you weaker than me?

Don’t beat around the bush, mind you.[/quote]

No, not specifically that question. Of course, I shouldnt be surprised that you singled out only one part of that post…

Im also gonna go out on a limb and say that youre probably not so overwhelmingly strong compared to me. I assume you are stronger than me, but youre also a far more “advanced” lifter and from what i know of you, not freakishly strong. Say what you want now, in less than 2 years time ill be bigger and stronger than you with only 5 years of lifting at that point, compared to your what…15?

Was that too much beating around the bush for you?

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Leave Bodyguard alone. Menopause is no picnic.[/quote]

well if i’m going thru menopause (and I may very well be given my advanced age), what the mother fuck is your excuse for being weaker than me? and why are you in the middle of a discussion about “size and progress”. [/quote]

lol this guy is too easy, serving up the perfect catty response and proving my point.

Old people crack me up[/quote]

Proving what point? the one that suggested he has menopause? lol

This coming from the guy who’s beating around the bush instead of answering BG’s question. [/quote]

? You mean the question of why he is weaker?

Why are you weaker than me?

Don’t beat around the bush, mind you.[/quote]

No, not specifically that question. Of course, I shouldnt be surprised that you singled out only one part of that post…

Im also gonna go out on a limb and say that youre probably not so overwhelmingly strong compared to me. I assume you are stronger than me, but youre also a far more “advanced” lifter and from what i know of you, not freakishly strong. Say what you want now, in less than 2 years time ill be bigger and stronger than you with only 5 years of lifting at that point, compared to your what…15?

Was that too much beating around the bush for you?

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Dude, just some advice for life…but no one cares what you “plan” to do. People care what you have done and what you are doing.

Your little rant here says way more about you than you probably thought it did.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Leave Bodyguard alone. Menopause is no picnic.[/quote]

well if i’m going thru menopause (and I may very well be given my advanced age), what the mother fuck is your excuse for being weaker than me? and why are you in the middle of a discussion about “size and progress”. [/quote]

lol this guy is too easy, serving up the perfect catty response and proving my point.

Old people crack me up[/quote]

Proving what point? the one that suggested he has menopause? lol

This coming from the guy who’s beating around the bush instead of answering BG’s question. [/quote]

? You mean the question of why he is weaker?

Why are you weaker than me?

Don’t beat around the bush, mind you.[/quote]

No, not specifically that question. Of course, I shouldnt be surprised that you singled out only one part of that post…

Im also gonna go out on a limb and say that youre probably not so overwhelmingly strong compared to me. I assume you are stronger than me, but youre also a far more “advanced” lifter and from what i know of you, not freakishly strong. Say what you want now, in less than 2 years time ill be bigger and stronger than you with only 5 years of lifting at that point, compared to your what…15?

Was that too much beating around the bush for you?

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Dude, just some advice for life…but no one cares what you “plan” to do. People care what you have done and what you are doing.

Your little rant here says way more about you than you probably thought it did.[/quote]

If precedent is any indication of future, i think im well on my way to achieving whatever goals i have. Asking me why im weaker than you is irrelevant. I am weaker than you because i have only been training seriously for 3 years (only 1.5 seriously). And in the 2+ years i have been lifting, i have accomplished a lot more than many people will, period. So i dont think you should be challenging my accomplishments here.

But i get it…I took a similar stance to BG’s which opposes your own, and now you need to assert yourself in defense of someone else who didnt take BG’s side.

I also really like how youre so quick to jump on the “Bodyguard is old” bandwagon and make jokes about that because he disagrees with you, yet when i throw up an old humor pic about you and hamburgers im “not funny and unoriginal.” lol

In case you were wondering, you werent funny…or original.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

If precedent is any indication of future, i think im well on my way to achieving whatever goals i have. Asking me why im weaker than you is irrelevant. I am weaker than you because i have only been training seriously for 3 years (only 1.5 seriously). And in the 2+ years i have been lifting, i have accomplished a lot more than many people will, period. So i dont think you should be challenging my accomplishments here.

But i get it…I took a similar stance to BG’s which opposes your own, and now you need to assert yourself in defense of someone else who didnt take BG’s side. [/quote]

Uhm, I simply pointed out how off it was for you to jump into the discussion the way you did questioning someone else like you did.

You don’t honestly think I care how strong you are, do you?

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
If working in involves the removal of countless plates after each turn, then it’s pretty impractical and probably an unreasonable request. If it’s taking a few plates off each time, stop being such a fucking dick. We all started somewhere. And some people have different goals.
[/quote]

I think this is all anyone is saying.[/quote]

no it’s not. i read a bunch of tired worn-out douchebaggery about being big and making progress. and people being too intimidated to ask certain people to work in.

like i said, some around here probably should have stayed smaller; they probably would have been nicer people. [/quote]

This couldn’t be more true. There is an epidemic of fake wanna-be “alpha males” running around on this site, the guys who got beat up in high school and started lifting weights and still haven’t gotten over it. They are easy to spot and their posts make me embarrassed for them, especially if they act like that in real life.

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Lol @ this thread

I only let people work in if its convenient to me, if its not they can wait

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

If precedent is any indication of future, i think im well on my way to achieving whatever goals i have. Asking me why im weaker than you is irrelevant. I am weaker than you because i have only been training seriously for 3 years (only 1.5 seriously). And in the 2+ years i have been lifting, i have accomplished a lot more than many people will, period. So i dont think you should be challenging my accomplishments here.

But i get it…I took a similar stance to BG’s which opposes your own, and now you need to assert yourself in defense of someone else who didnt take BG’s side. [/quote]

Uhm, I simply pointed out how off it was for you to jump into the discussion the way you did questioning someone else like you did.

You don’t honestly think I care how strong you are, do you?
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I dont think it was off at all. A guy with admittedly almost no experience lifting has nothing better to contribute other than a old-man joke about a guy who could probably 1 arm dumbbell row him, i’d say that was a bit off. The guy making the jokes is exactly the kind of guy that people (like you) are complaining about “interrupting” someone who is much stronger to work in on a set. Yet since he isnt disagreeing with you, you feel the need to back him up.

Typical.

And no i dont think you care about how strong i am. I dont really care about how strong i am. I merely answered your post.

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[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
If working in involves the removal of countless plates after each turn, then it’s pretty impractical and probably an unreasonable request. If it’s taking a few plates off each time, stop being such a fucking dick. We all started somewhere. And some people have different goals.
[/quote]

I think this is all anyone is saying.[/quote]

no it’s not. i read a bunch of tired worn-out douchebaggery about being big and making progress. and people being too intimidated to ask certain people to work in.

like i said, some around here probably should have stayed smaller; they probably would have been nicer people. [/quote]

This couldn’t be more true. There is an epidemic of fake wanna-be “alpha males” running around on this site, the guys who got beat up in high school and started lifting weights and still haven’t gotten over it. They are easy to spot and their posts make me embarrassed for them, especially if they act like that in real life. [/quote]

Exactly. Regardless what they say their reasons are for not wanting to let anyone work in, i almost feel like its simply because they are insulted if someone doesnt think they are too intimidating looking to approach in the gym.

If you are not a professional bodybuilder, if your career does not somehow depend on you being in the gym constantly, your workout is not too important to be “bothered” to let someone work in.

[Insert 20 pps leg press example here]

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Wow. The bullshit in this thread is growing. I “worked in” with several people last night…ON A CABLE MACHINE. I didn’t have anyone come up to me while on a plate loaded machine with more than 3 plates a side. There is a reason I can speak to most of the people there, most of them know me, and that happens. It isn’t because I think I am all that either.

Some of you seem to be projecting. It is also causing some of you to not understand what people are saying.

because the bottom line is, if you have 20 plates on a leg press and some guy jumps at you to work in and he only plans on using one plate a side, most of you would not be happy about the extra workout you now get to do that was unplanned.

I am waiting for one person to deny this.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Wow. The bullshit in this thread is growing. I “worked in” with several people last night…ON A CABLE MACHINE. I didn’t have anyone come up to me while on a plate loaded machine with more than 3 plates a side. There is a reason I can speak to most of the people there, most of them know me, and that happens. It isn’t because I think I am all that either.

Some of you seem to be projecting. It is also causing some of you to not understand what people are saying.

because the bottom line is, if you have 20 plates on a leg press and some guy jumps at you to work in and he only plans on using one plate a side, most of you would not be happy about the extra workout you now get to do that was unplanned.

I am waiting for one person to deny this.

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…aaaannnd theres the predictable leg press example that keeps coming up.

Im pretty sure i havent really heard anyone say that they would be willing to unload a leg press with 10pps for someone doing significantly less than that. That is one example where its just completely impractical to work in.

However, if im doing 4 pps hammer strength and someone wants to unload a couple of em, as long as they slap em back on their thats fine by me.

lol at projecting.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

…aaaannnd theres the predictable leg press example that keeps coming up.

Im pretty sure i havent really heard anyone say that they would be willing to unload a leg press with 10pps for someone doing significantly less than that. That is one example where its just completely impractical to work in. [/quote]

I’m confused. That is what we’ve bee saying from page one…so why are you reading all sorts of nonsense into that?

I don’t know how much you think the rest of us train with, but you clearly think you build big muscles with light weight to keep pressing the issue.

It has already been written several times in this thread that no one was talking about a machine where the weight is easily switched…so why do you see something else?

…and yes, you are projecting if you take what has been said here and act like it is about some bully situation.

You either aren’t really reading the words or you don’t understand them…one of the two.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

…aaaannnd theres the predictable leg press example that keeps coming up.

Im pretty sure i havent really heard anyone say that they would be willing to unload a leg press with 10pps for someone doing significantly less than that. That is one example where its just completely impractical to work in. [/quote]

I’m confused. That is what we’ve bee saying from page one…so why are you reading all sorts of nonsense into that?

I don’t know how much you think the rest of us train with, but you clearly think you build big muscles with light weight to keep pressing the issue.

It has already been written several times in this thread that no one was talking about a machine where the weight is easily switched…so why do you see something else?

…and yes, you are projecting if you take what has been said here and act like it is about some bully situation.

You either aren’t really reading the words or you don’t understand them…one of the two.[/quote]

I dont claim that it is about some bully situation. Its a possibility sure, but im not really discussing it. It seems that some of you seem to think you have earned “the right” to not have to let weaker people work in because you got big. You can dispute that all you want, but that is the impression i get. And i dont know where you get the idea that i like to train with light weight since i never mentioned the specific weights that i lift with. (i actually advocate training as heavy as possible generally so you’re a little off there)

Im talking about any lift using plates, whether it be a plate-loaded machine or a barbell, i dont think anyone here is using enough plates that its that much of a pain in the ass to let someone weaker work in. Especially because i would expect them to volunteer to unload and reload the weight. The only exception i can see to this being leg press or maybe some other machine plate-loaded leg exercises.