Equipment Sharing Etiquette

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[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
^Been saying that for years. You can pretty much tell your audience when they act like things like this are a non-issue…because they have never experienced it.[/quote]

Bullshit.

I’ve stripped plenty of plates from people stronger than me and plenty of plates for people weaker. It’s never been an issue. It’s never been an issue for anyone I’ve ever worked out with either.[/quote]

??

I can guarantee you that it would be an issue for most guys if the guy we are describing is on a leg press with 20+ plates on it and you aren’t lifting anywhere near as much. Removing and replacing that many plates EACH SET is a work out in itself.

You are saying you do this all the time? LOL

The whole issue is about you walking up to some guy who is clearly moving drastically more weight than you.

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[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
What’s the big deal about changing weights? Is it that hard?[/quote]

It’s annoying. I dont care to spend double the energy moving plates around when that effort can be put to use in my workout.

If Im using the power squat thing and someone asks to work in, he should expect to move the 4+ plates on and off each time, if he’s only going to use 1 or 2 per side.

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And if someone asks to work in but uses more weight? Will you move it all?[/quote]

You seem to be missing the point. The point is NOT whether someone is simply lifting one more plate than you that can easily be removed and replaced.

This needs more explanation? Or will you admit that it is fucked up to walk up to Ronnie Coleman while he is leg pressing and ask to work in when you plan on only using 1 single lonely plate a side?

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[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
What’s the big deal about changing weights? Is it that hard?[/quote]

It’s annoying. I dont care to spend double the energy moving plates around when that effort can be put to use in my workout.

If Im using the power squat thing and someone asks to work in, he should expect to move the 4+ plates on and off each time, if he’s only going to use 1 or 2 per side.

For someone spending 30+ minutes on a single piece, you can’t complain if people ask to work in. Everyone pays the same price to use the gym. Im guessing this is why you dont seem competitive bodybuilders lifting in gyms with one barbell. [/quote]

For someone to ask this question, they have never loaded and removed 18-24 plates from a leg press before.

It is a workout in and of itself. Who needs cardio when you can load/unload 20+ plates.
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If someone is working in, it’s not like they’re going to completely strip it down. They’ll leave half the plates on. Big deal.[/quote]

Sorry. Even the guys using 5-6 pps aren’t likely to want to strip and reload 10 plates before/after every set.

Infinitely more likely to hear “How many more sets you got” than “Can I work in? Why, yes, I’d be happy to strip/load 10 plates after EVERY set”.

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I skipped way ahead after reading page one. bench for DB’s i’ll share, others should to, that said if someone is a douchebag and can’t get into a cadence w/ my sets, i’ll mention it. e.g. likely a in-between set talker, mood dependent and after hearing the first 10 things out of their mouth i’ll decide if the headphones come off at all. i love my headphones.

Leg press. squat rack. barbell bench. if you’re working in and i was there first you’re responsible for stripping and re-adding plates. if i’m working w/ a someone pushing more than me then i’ll strip and add the weight. usually the bigger person will see this polite courtesy and help out.

occuping one squat rack for a long ass time is crazy if it’s for anything other than squats or heavy rack pulls or something related to the basic intent of the rack. if you’re doing curls and novel trendy shit in there well that’s just fucking stupid.

I don’t know why i bothered writing any of this shit down. I guess because at the root of it, someone doing 10,000 things for an hr in the rack is annoying, if you’re a fairly big fucker and you’re training legs in the rack most people who are self aware of not being a cock in the gym will leave you well enough alone.

I tell anyone who asks, I have a lot of sets, it’s leg day. you’re welcome to work in, strip em on or off if you’d like. most people want to hear…this is my last set, so when they hear me say i have a lot BUT you can work in *qualifying add/subtract you’re own plates they usually walk away or they work in for a set or two then wander off to another piece of equiptment. it’s a stereotype but the typical dickface interuptor wanders from shoulder press to abs to hamstrings to biceps…fuck them.

i’ve had a few guys work in and do set for set w/ me, sometimes a wheel or two a head, sometimes behind, in that case i sometimes encourage this person w/ phrases like “get it, Come on, drive it up.” I save the ronnie coleman phrases for my closest lifting friends. personally, i enjoy a gym with several friends pushing and encouraging each other. hearing WWWOOOOOOOoooooooooo yelled out to just lift the mood in the gym is nice.

I squatted for 45min tonite (front and back squats)…then moved onto another quad exercise, we have four racks yahhooo.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Personally:

  1. Try not to hog equipment in a busy gym. (Go late/early, change up some exercises, etc.)
  2. Ask “how much longer do you have?” or “how many more sets do you have?” if someone hasn’t done number 1.
  3. You can ask to work in IF you are about the same strength level. Try to adjust your workout to the weights on the bar.

Most importantly 4) Don’t be a dick.

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In truth, #4 is really all you need. The rest are all kind of based on that.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
^Been saying that for years. You can pretty much tell your audience when they act like things like this are a non-issue…because they have never experienced it.[/quote]

Bullshit.

I’ve stripped plenty of plates from people stronger than me and plenty of plates for people weaker. It’s never been an issue. It’s never been an issue for anyone I’ve ever worked out with either.[/quote]

??

I can guarantee you that it would be an issue for most guys if the guy we are describing is on a leg press with 20+ plates on it and you aren’t lifting anywhere near as much. Removing and replacing that many plates EACH SET is a work out in itself.

You are saying you do this all the time? LOL

The whole issue is about you walking up to some guy who is clearly moving drastically more weight than you.[/quote]

You’re right. It doesn’t happen when someone is using 20+ plates. In that 0.00000000001% of the time, I’d wait. The rest of the time, what’s the big deal?

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[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
^Been saying that for years. You can pretty much tell your audience when they act like things like this are a non-issue…because they have never experienced it.[/quote]

Bullshit.

I’ve stripped plenty of plates from people stronger than me and plenty of plates for people weaker. It’s never been an issue. It’s never been an issue for anyone I’ve ever worked out with either.[/quote]

??

I can guarantee you that it would be an issue for most guys if the guy we are describing is on a leg press with 20+ plates on it and you aren’t lifting anywhere near as much. Removing and replacing that many plates EACH SET is a work out in itself.

You are saying you do this all the time? LOL

The whole issue is about you walking up to some guy who is clearly moving drastically more weight than you.[/quote]

You’re right. It doesn’t happen when someone is using 20+ plates. In that 0.00000000001% of the time, I’d wait. The rest of the time, what’s the big deal?[/quote]

LOL.

How often do you even work out?

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I’ve yet to have a none weightlifter ask can they use the platform with me. Some people leave the platforms when they see oly lifters coming, or if they stay they usually leave pretty soon. Even though i’m fine with someone else using the platform.

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Feel free to work in as long as you’re in my weight range. Nothing worse than loading and unloading plates. There are two types of people that hog equipment: those that are serious and look it & those that are serious and fucked. Serious and Fucked has to allow me to work in.

But but…serious and fucked was on the machine first. Isn’t S&F’d goals just as important? No.

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I guess those two dykes at McDonald’s felt that the cashier was not “making enough progress” or wasn’t “big enough” so they felt free to “work-in” in the employee area.

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I have the feeling some of you pitiful motherfuckers would be a lot nicer if you hadn’t gotten relatively “big”. But then again, the same reason you pitiful motherfuckers made it your life’s dream to get big is probably the same reason you’re a dick now.

Anyway, asking to work in is a matter of practicality - NOT how big some insecure douchebag is or how much progress someone is making, or a measure of how scary or intimidating you THINK you are. If working in involves the removal of countless plates after each turn, then it’s pretty impractical and probably an unreasonable request. If it’s taking a few plates off each time, stop being such a fucking dick. We all started somewhere. And some people have different goals.

First, LOL at the leg press. What’s next? The smith machine? Next, not many of you so-called “big” “progressive” motherfuckers here are squatting north of 500; so if someone “smaller” or “weaker” than you wants to work in for squats (for instance), you’re removing maybe 3-4 plates each set? Big fucking deal.

A few of you assholes could really use some humility.

If you don’t like sharing, go get your own space and own equipment.

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When I was a little pee-wee, actual men let me “work-in” at the basketball court. My playing with older guys most of my young life was probably the biggest reason for my development as a player.

When I retired from basketball, it was some powerlifters that let me “work-in” when my biggest goal then was just to bench 315. And my exposure to these guys and their willingness to let me work in was THE reason I one day pulled and squatted the big weights I did. If they were dicks like some of you, I probably never catch the PL bug or even become exposed to it.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I guess those two dykes at McDonald’s felt that the cashier was not “making enough progress” or wasn’t “big enough” so they felt free to “work-in” in the employee area. [/quote]

Ha Ha,

Until they found out the hard way that he had been training Zerchers.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
If working in involves the removal of countless plates after each turn, then it’s pretty impractical and probably an unreasonable request. If it’s taking a few plates off each time, stop being such a fucking dick. We all started somewhere. And some people have different goals.
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I think this is all anyone is saying.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
If working in involves the removal of countless plates after each turn, then it’s pretty impractical and probably an unreasonable request. If it’s taking a few plates off each time, stop being such a fucking dick. We all started somewhere. And some people have different goals.
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I think this is all anyone is saying.[/quote]

no it’s not. i read a bunch of tired worn-out douchebaggery about being big and making progress. and people being too intimidated to ask certain people to work in.

like i said, some around here probably should have stayed smaller; they probably would have been nicer people.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
When I was a little pee-wee, actual men let me “work-in” at the basketball court. My playing with older guys most of my young life was probably the biggest reason for my development as a player.

When I retired from basketball, it was some powerlifters that let me “work-in” when my biggest goal then was just to bench 315. And my exposure to these guys and their willingness to let me work in was THE reason I one day pulled and squatted the big weights I did. If they were dicks like some of you, I probably never catch the PL bug or even become exposed to it. [/quote]

I’d let some hard working kid “work in” in a second. The key there being “hard working”. We have some younger guys at my gym now that are really dedicated. This one Asian guy is making a ton of progress. If he asks me anything I try to help him out. I know that if I did let him work in for some reason, he wouldn’t be a know it all or have an attitude…like quite a few newbs have lately.

You seem to be misunderstanding what people are writing. I am not a “dick” at my gym. Most of the people there tend to come up to me to speak if they are serious. It is like night and day, however, between that gym and the Fitness Connection across town. There, every sedentary newb gets an attitude if you even ask if you can work in. I had one take my fucking plates off my machine WHILE I WAS LAYING ON IT ABOUT TO PRESS THE WEIGHT.

These are not the types you let “work in” when you are training with a weight that takes a workout in itself to put on and take off.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
If working in involves the removal of countless plates after each turn, then it’s pretty impractical and probably an unreasonable request. If it’s taking a few plates off each time, stop being such a fucking dick. We all started somewhere. And some people have different goals.
[/quote]

I think this is all anyone is saying.[/quote]

no it’s not. i read a bunch of tired worn-out douchebaggery about being big and making progress. and people being too intimidated to ask certain people to work in.

like i said, some around here probably should have stayed smaller; they probably would have been nicer people. [/quote]

No, your reading comprehension is just as poor as ever. That is all.

I suggest blood pressure medication and a Xanax.

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Leave Bodyguard alone. Menopause is no picnic.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
I have the feeling some of you pitiful motherfuckers would be a lot nicer if you hadn’t gotten relatively “big”. But then again, the same reason you pitiful motherfuckers made it your life’s dream to get big is probably the same reason you’re a dick now.

Anyway, asking to work in is a matter of practicality - NOT how big some insecure douchebag is or how much progress someone is making, or a measure of how scary or intimidating you THINK you are. If working in involves the removal of countless plates after each turn, then it’s pretty impractical and probably an unreasonable request. If it’s taking a few plates off each time, stop being such a fucking dick. We all started somewhere. And some people have different goals.

First, LOL at the leg press. What’s next? The smith machine? Next, not many of you so-called “big” “progressive” motherfuckers here are squatting north of 500; so if someone “smaller” or “weaker” than you wants to work in for squats (for instance), you’re removing maybe 3-4 plates each set? Big fucking deal.

A few of you assholes could really use some humility.

If you don’t like sharing, go get your own space and own equipment.[/quote]

It all comes back to:

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Most importantly 4) Don’t be a dick.
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I lift with my wife, so plates get added or removed for every set. It really isn’t that big of a deal. If you can leg press 20 plates, lifting one at a time shouldn’t take much effort.

If you’ve got just a couple of sets left, then sure, finish up. If you’re going to be there for 1/2 hour and there is no where else the guy can go, let him work in even if it means moveing the plates.

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[quote]Quick Ben wrote:
Leave Bodyguard alone. Menopause is no picnic.[/quote]

well if i’m going thru menopause (and I may very well be given my advanced age), what the mother fuck is your excuse for being weaker than me? and why are you in the middle of a discussion about “size and progress”.