Equations in Bodybuilding

On the topic - I firmly believe that you can’t force someone to have what it takes, they either have it or they don’t.

If people are casual, or don’t even push themselves to the brink of making noise, they’ll never be right for it (they’ll go back to skateboarding or whatever they did before the “get ripped” idea popped in their head).

Hence, no point in making a thread about it :slight_smile:

[quote]its_just_me wrote:
On the topic - I firmly believe that you can’t force someone to have what it takes, they either have it or they don’t.

If people are casual, or don’t even push themselves to the brink of making noise, they’ll never be right for it (they’ll go back to skateboarding or whatever they did before the “get ripped” idea popped in their head).

Hence, no point in making a thread about it :slight_smile: [/quote]

Well with that ideology, why make any threads at all? if people have the desire, they’ll figure shit out eventually.

Of course, people need pointed in the right direction…but in all, this sort of thing is mostly a learned/developed trait. It’s like a talent that just needs fine tuning. If it’s not there in the first place, then there’s no chance.

Someone who just doesn’t “have it”, will look at ‘you’ training and see something really strange and a mad man obsessed.

Whereas someone who “has it”, will look up to those who have the drive etc with admiration…not laugh at them as if they’re just some weird freak.

[quote]Goodfellow wrote:

[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
maybe this thread should of just been about intensity??[/quote]

Yeah, so people can talk about how it means a % of 1RM, and those who use the word ‘intensity’ for it’s psychological meaning don’t understand anything academical and who won’t “won’t be around more than 5 years or so”.

That was a fucking GREAT thread

/sarcasm.
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Most of them will still be around…although they will have given up on getting bigger and will be doing crossfit routines.
/Sarcasm.

[quote]its_just_me wrote:
Of course, people need pointed in the right direction…but in all, this sort of thing is mostly a learned/developed trait. It’s like a talent that just needs fine tuning. If it’s not there in the first place, then there’s no chance.

Someone who just doesn’t “have it”, will look at ‘you’ training and see something really strange and a mad man obsessed.

Whereas someone who “has it”, will look up to those who have the drive etc with admiration…not laugh at them as if they’re just some weird freak.[/quote]

I believe a word, an action, a symbol, some hidden meaning that only YOU see in some instantaneous moment can spark intensity or inspiration in another. Inspiration is like a gust of wind, you dont know its coming, but when it hits, you feel it. Intensity is taking that surge of mental strength and running with it.

I recall what inspired me. It was an action, a car accident that put me in a coma. Or rather the waking up part, and feeling utterly weak. in that one moment, it was as if lightning had struck me. 1 second. Thats all it takes. A word can inspire, and as i said, i believe intensity can be a byproduct of inspiration.

So why not write? Yea i get shit from a few dozen whelps who have nothing better to do than belittle others, but there’s a person or two in every thread i make that takes it and Runs with it.

I think the trade off is worth it…

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[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

What are most people lacking in the gym? Intensity…Focus…Drive. I see Bro’s doing their Curls, not so much as a breath out of rhythm. I see 160lb guys squatting a good inch or 2 in the Smith cage, thinking that he is ACTUALLY lifting the 5 plates he has on each side, then finishing his set and chatting to his buddy as if he were sitting on a couch. You hear the perpetual “Dude i was so wasted,” and watch as he attempts to curl in a HS row machine, or atleast thats what his form portrays…

Then i look at my partner and i…just racked a 400lb 1 legged leg press… my facing seemingly melting…gasping for air. My quads tensing up, and blood pouring in, to the point where i need to stand. Our chatting and chuckling kicks up, only long enough to put on more weight.

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My training partner and I totally lacked some focus recently because we were cracking up talking about how you said your face was melting.

On a serious note, I don’t think I would have made half the progress I have today if not for the fact that my training partner and I always have a great time in the gym, talking and laughing and shit. Even when I feel like shit one day, I know that I’m gonna have a good time, even if it’s a mediocre workout. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all about the intensity during the exercise itself, we melt our faces daily. But in between? Fuckin great time. And that’s actually what I see from all the impressive guys in my gym.

Now you did say that you guys joke around some, so maybe we’re saying the same thing in different ways. I just don’t think you need to be serious the whole time, it’s a lot more fun to have a good time with it.

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]Akuma01 wrote:

What are most people lacking in the gym? Intensity…Focus…Drive. I see Bro’s doing their Curls, not so much as a breath out of rhythm. I see 160lb guys squatting a good inch or 2 in the Smith cage, thinking that he is ACTUALLY lifting the 5 plates he has on each side, then finishing his set and chatting to his buddy as if he were sitting on a couch. You hear the perpetual “Dude i was so wasted,” and watch as he attempts to curl in a HS row machine, or atleast thats what his form portrays…

Then i look at my partner and i…just racked a 400lb 1 legged leg press… my facing seemingly melting…gasping for air. My quads tensing up, and blood pouring in, to the point where i need to stand. Our chatting and chuckling kicks up, only long enough to put on more weight.

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My training partner and I totally lacked some focus recently because we were cracking up talking about how you said your face was melting.

On a serious note, I don’t think I would have made half the progress I have today if not for the fact that my training partner and I always have a great time in the gym, talking and laughing and shit. Even when I feel like shit one day, I know that I’m gonna have a good time, even if it’s a mediocre workout. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all about the intensity during the exercise itself, we melt our faces daily. But in between? Fuckin great time. And that’s actually what I see from all the impressive guys in my gym.

Now you did say that you guys joke around some, so maybe we’re saying the same thing in different ways. I just don’t think you need to be serious the whole time, it’s a lot more fun to have a good time with it.[/quote]

On a similar note, when I train alone my workouts are just flat. I’m used to training with my brother and we joke a lot etc (still while keeping up the intensity). It totally motivates you.

I believe there’s good merit to it (psychologically). It’s like the studies that proved people find comedy more funny when they’re with someone (don’t laugh as much on their own). Same with training, people enjoy it more with decent company.

Also, there were studies done a while ago which inferred that being in a good mood raised testosterone levels…and if you are having a laugh/enjoying company, you are in “higher spirits” and are going to push harder (so long as the people you are with are serious about lifting). So not only do you have the peer pressure/competitiveness with training partners, but also there’s a good chance that you get a better hormone profile too.

yea, we’re laughing a majority of the time we are in the gym. Having a training partner is awesome.

Training with a partner is great seeing as I train in the garage. Not only someone to help get a bar off your chest if you need but also someone to be accountable to. However I honestly don’t care for lifting in a gym, too many distractions and douche bags. Maybe I just haven’t found the right gym.

Also I’ve found for me time of day is important. 0600 works great, seeing the sun rise when you are already drenched with sweat just feels awesome, as though you have a jump on the day. The only problem I seem to have is timing a small meal first. Typically I’m up at 0530 and have a small cup of coffee black, banana, and a tablespoon of honey for the blood sugar. Any other suggestions?

These last few posts have gotten me determined to find a lifting partner for this fall semester. I usually don’t have a problem motivating myself, but i can see how having someone to spot you and to compete with could keep you pushing hard.

I’d suggest (if it’s possible for you) to implement one of the Anaconda protocols. I lift at 6 am sometimes as well, and here are a couple of things I’ve done, that have helped immensely.

  1. Wake up more than 30 minutes before you train…it takes the body more than 30 minutes to get going

  2. 5 am…wake…capful of GPC if desired…especially helpful in the early AM
    If using AP 1…5:30 Finibars, then follow directions for the rest of protocol
    If using AP 2…5:30…start sipping a can of Spike…5:45…start sipping on the AP 2 protocol

If you’re not going to use either of the AP’s, you should at least implement some sort of peri-workout nutrition…maybe 2-3 scoops of Surge Recovery (cheapest), start sipping on the mixture 15 minutes prior to your workout, finish most of it by the start of the workout and finish the rest during.

Besides all the performance and recovery benefits of peri-workout nutrition, a large influx of calories/nutrients first thing in the morning optimal for any type of body composition goal you may have. Breakfast is one of the larger meals of the day anyhow, and if you’re blasting the iron first thing, it becomes an even more anabolic window, you should capitalize on.

[quote]KersMTN wrote:
Training with a partner is great seeing as I train in the garage. Not only someone to help get a bar off your chest if you need but also someone to be accountable to. However I honestly don’t care for lifting in a gym, too many distractions and douche bags. Maybe I just haven’t found the right gym.

Also I’ve found for me time of day is important. 0600 works great, seeing the sun rise when you are already drenched with sweat just feels awesome, as though you have a jump on the day. The only problem I seem to have is timing a small meal first. Typically I’m up at 0530 and have a small cup of coffee black, banana, and a tablespoon of honey for the blood sugar. Any other suggestions?[/quote]

Yeah it takes a while for the metabolism to start ticking in the morning. As synergy said, getting up earlier is good.

Also, drink a warm drink upon wakening, that gets everything going quickly (expect a toilet visit soon after lol). Nothing wrong with waiting a bit (until you’re more hungry) before having breakfast.

Thank you

[quote]DickBag wrote:
I dont like the f=ma equation in bodybuilding, i am not sure why it annoys me, but i want to share my opinion.

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Well i did. i thought it was a nice bit of equating, symbolism, and underlying message. But your opinion is noted, and i promise i wont make this thread again.