Today I Was Surfing the When I decided to stop in and visit our “friends” The FDA on the net much to my dissurprise the FDA had an article About Ephedrine on its main page.
Above the story about why they approved Plavix today to treat a new kind of Heart attack (or something like that) today when i clicked on the link i found this rather hard to read article:
“FDA Statement on Tenth Circuit?s Ruling to Uphold FDA Decision Banning Dietary Supplements Containing Ephedrine Alkaloids”
"Background: On Aug. 17, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit in Denver upheld the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) final rule declaring all dietary supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids adulterated, and therefore illegal for marketing in the United States, reversing a decision by the District Court of Utah.
The Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals’ ruling demonstrates the soundness of FDA’s decision to ban dietary supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids, consistent with the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) of 1994. The Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals also found that Congress clearly required FDA to conduct a risk-benefit analysis under DSHEA.
FDA conducted an exhaustive and highly resource-intensive evaluation of the relevant scientific data evidence on ephedrine alkaloids before issuing its final rule, which became effective in 2004. The court found that the 133,000-page administrative record compiled by FDA supports the agency’s findings that dietary supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids pose an unreasonable risk of illness or injury to users, especially those suffering from heart disease and high blood pressure.
No dosage of dietary supplements containing ephedrine alkaloids is safe and the sale of these products in the United States is illegal and subject to FDA enforcement action."
can anyone help me with making sense this article because they keep talking in loops.
Nice, now let’s see them do the same with tobacco. Of course ephedrine is such a huge killer compared to the safe and proven cigarette. It’s amazing that they and our Canadian counterpart ( Health Canada) can actually issue such crap while telling people to quit smoking.
How are we supposed to interpret the title “dietary supplements?” I think their goal is to keep it out of products touted as weight loss agents, as people taking weight loss products are presumably overweight and therefore much more succeptible to something like an ephedra-product induced heart attack.
At least it sounds that way to me. Gas stations have the ephedra “asthma reliever” products all over my state, and this sounds like they would be uneffected by laws against “dietary supplements.” It is confusing though…
I thought I read that ephedra can be used to make meth. If that’s the case we have the real reason.
I think there is something to that becuase at the store where I buy my supps I’ve seen this fat smoker chic come in and buy 25, yup 25 bottles at once. She does this every month according to the staff member I talked to.
She says she uses it all herself, yeah right a bottle( 50 tabs) a day. I don’t think so.
[quote]BASTARD G wrote:
since we all know that Spike is a way better stimulant and HRX is a way better fat burner, why does anyone care about ephedrine?[/quote]
I care because I don’t want my freedom of choice restricted anymore than it already is by the government.
[quote]BASTARD G wrote:
since we all know that Spike is a way better stimulant and HRX is a way better fat burner, why does anyone care about ephedrine?[/quote]
[quote]BASTARD G wrote:
since we all know that Spike is a way better stimulant and HRX is a way better fat burner, why does anyone care about ephedrine?[/quote]
I thought you were taking HRX with ephedrine, Mr. Depth, ; )
I thought you were going for that “I want striations on my eye ball veins” look…
The whole situation about ephedrine is pretty screwed up no doubt…however count urselves lucky…in malaysia i have problems even getting vitamins and protein powders and supps cost a bomb because of the added import tax…5 lbs of whey protein range anywhere from 180-200 over here as a result i have to rely mostly on natural foods…
i guess sometimes you just gotta adapt to crappy rules…i personally increased my daily caffein intake when i want to burn fat…
First of all,ephedra isn’t bad for you.
It’s not gonna jump out and bite your head off.
I wouldn’t pay ANY attention to what the FDA says because their only interest is increasing profits.
Now,lets look at the facts.
Ephedra was banned because 153 deaths have been linked to taking ephedra.
Now,millions of people were taking ephedra.
If you take any group of ten million people,over a year,there’s a good chance that 153 in the group will die.
The FDA said there is a “link” between ephedra use and those deaths.
However,the FDA keeps saying how dangerous ephedra is.
But yet,if you were in your medicine cabnet(those who take drugs),took a drug and took more than what the label said,there is a high probability that you could die.
This is NOT about danger.This is about who controls these products. The scary part is whatever the FDA says,it is presented as truth and no opposing opinions are heard.
Now,think about this.
Two thousand people die every year by simply taking asprin.NOT OVERDOSING on asprin but by taking asprin in the reccommended amounts.
Wow! It appears asprin is not safe.
Yet I don’t see asprin being banned.
Do you see where this is going?
It’s all about the money.
Ephedra was banned,but ephedrine,the drug form,was still being sold!
Why? because the FDA can’t make money off of natural remedies.
Because a natural remedy CANNOT be patented and there is no company that can spend 800$ million to get natural remedy approved as a new drug because it will not own a patent for that"new drug" and therefore can’t make that money back plus tenfold profits.
Ephedra is more powerful than any weight loss drug the FDA passed.
The companies producing ephedra are selling more ephedra than the drug companies are selling diet drugs thus making more money for the companies selling Ephedra.
They hate that.
Ephedra was the best product on the market in my opinion. It provided me with a solid kick of energy, that took me through my workouts and throughout my entire day. The government is focusing on their revenue rather than the facts.
“More people actually die from the drugs they DO approve than from ephedra.”
Is that true if you count the methamphetamine that is derived from ephedra and psuedoephedra? It might be, but that isn’t the point.
We got unlucky. A cool and relatively harmless drug that can be turned into a lethal and extremely harmful drug is going to be banned.
It’s too bad for responsible ephedra users, but meth is bad enough to warrant banning ephedra. Meth kills and destroys the lives of users, families of users and the victims of users’ crimes.
[quote]beebuddy wrote:
“More people actually die from the drugs they DO approve than from ephedra.”
Is that true if you count the methamphetamine that is derived from ephedra and psuedoephedra? It might be, but that isn’t the point.
We got unlucky. A cool and relatively harmless drug that can be turned into a lethal and extremely harmful drug is going to be banned.
It’s too bad for responsible ephedra users, but meth is bad enough to warrant banning ephedra. Meth kills and destroys the lives of users, families of users and the victims of users’ crimes.[/quote]
Should they ban every product that can be re-processed/cooked/perverted into something else?
We would end up with no common household cleaners, the only thing left would be ivory soap.