hmm… I wonder what that is all about.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
asusvenus wrote:
What’s the point in writing something like “I want to die” or along the lines of that then? (I don’t feel like looking at those pics again)
Death an suicide are both big goth jokes. People assume we all want to die and no matter what we do we can’t avoid the stereotype. With that in mind, we just go along with it and laugh. Statically we are among the lowest for suicide.[/quote]
Okay, you’ve piqued my interest. Quote me studies that demonstrate that men and women that self-identify with the gothic subculture have a lower risk of suicide than average.
[quote]xb-C wrote:
jungle fever[/quote]
LOL. so cute.
[quote]Marlind wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
Marlind wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
asusvenus wrote:
What’s the point in writing something like “I want to die” or along the lines of that then? (I don’t feel like looking at those pics again)
Death an suicide are both big goth jokes. People assume we all want to die and no matter what we do we can’t avoid the stereotype. With that in mind, we just go along with it and laugh. Statically we are among the lowest for suicide. So, she could be joking. Another big goth trend is subliminal, death equals life. Death is forever that is immortality. So to die is to live forever. In everyday terms this girl may love her life so much that she never wants to die
Risperidone and Leponex, that girl should take them!
why? what is that based on?
would you make that suggestion for a bodybuilder or heavy lifter? We do dangerous dieting and max our bodies every day. That is as equal in psychosis as cutting,right?
NO.It’s not the same,I do it because I want to improve my body,while they do it without any purpose,except the CLEARING OF THE MIND,well my dear friend that is devious behavior,It’s simply not normal.Bodybuilding has it’s purpose and the pain,the soreness, the dieting all bring their fruits,while cutting yourself brings disgustingly ugly scars.Also we are biological machines designed to SURVIVE and REPLICATE we’re not here to inflict self-damage without a fuckin purpose except to seek attention in a sick way.[/quote]
the scars are ugly to who? not me, i have carved pictures on my quads and i didnt do it for attention. I’m positive people think my traps are gross and likewise for you. also we run the risk of eating disorders,diabettes,nerve damage and spine injuries as lifters-not much commes from cuts except bloody shirts
humans need artistic release just as much as physical
you are not a cutter so your view on it is tainted. So if I tried to argue I’d end up geting frustrated with the close mindedness round here. I’m just giving the interpretation from the heart of the dark side
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Marlind wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
Marlind wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
asusvenus wrote:
What’s the point in writing something like “I want to die” or along the lines of that then? (I don’t feel like looking at those pics again)
Death an suicide are both big goth jokes. People assume we all want to die and no matter what we do we can’t avoid the stereotype. With that in mind, we just go along with it and laugh. Statically we are among the lowest for suicide. So, she could be joking. Another big goth trend is subliminal, death equals life. Death is forever that is immortality. So to die is to live forever. In everyday terms this girl may love her life so much that she never wants to die
Risperidone and Leponex, that girl should take them!
why? what is that based on?
would you make that suggestion for a bodybuilder or heavy lifter? We do dangerous dieting and max our bodies every day. That is as equal in psychosis as cutting,right?
NO.It’s not the same,I do it because I want to improve my body,while they do it without any purpose,except the CLEARING OF THE MIND,well my dear friend that is devious behavior,It’s simply not normal.Bodybuilding has it’s purpose and the pain,the soreness, the dieting all bring their fruits,while cutting yourself brings disgustingly ugly scars.Also we are biological machines designed to SURVIVE and REPLICATE we’re not here to inflict self-damage without a fuckin purpose except to seek attention in a sick way.
the scars are ugly to who? not me, i have carved pictures on my quads and i didnt do it for attention. I’m positive people think my traps are gross and likewise for you. also we run the risk of eating disorders,diabettes,nerve damage and spine injuries as lifters-not much commes from cuts except bloody shirts
humans need artistic release just as much as physical
you are not a cutter so your view on it is tainted. So if I tried to argue I’d end up geting frustrated with the close mindedness round here. I’m just giving the interpretation from the heart of the dark side
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Can you explain what the dark side is,scientifically?
Where does it come from?
And surely,how come you follow it? Do you really believe in vampires and ghosts?
[quote]Otep wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
asusvenus wrote:
What’s the point in writing something like “I want to die” or along the lines of that then? (I don’t feel like looking at those pics again)
Death an suicide are both big goth jokes. People assume we all want to die and no matter what we do we can’t avoid the stereotype. With that in mind, we just go along with it and laugh. Statically we are among the lowest for suicide.
Okay, you’ve piqued my interest. Quote me studies that demonstrate that men and women that self-identify with the gothic subculture have a lower risk of suicide than average.
[/quote]
I’ll definitely find the breakdown of this. Actually, you light seekers off yourselves more often than we do. I wrote a paper defending counter culture so its somewhere around somewhere.
it would make more sense when you truly understand what real goth is, vs the kids you see in the mall at hot topic
Damn she’s pretty tough.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
you are not a cutter so your view on it is tainted. So if I tried to argue I’d end up geting frustrated with the close mindedness round here. I’m just giving the interpretation from the heart of the dark side
[/quote]
Are you taking the fucking piss?
Anyone who doesn’t actively engage in an activity is automatically denied an opinion to it?
This girl needs help, no doubt about it. But she(and other ‘cutters’) need to realise what they have been blessed with. While one could argue that every persons body is their own, I don’t think that’s a valid excuse here.
Everytime I see a a physically disabled person, in a wheelchair, with one leg drastically shorter than the other, with a hunch etc, I immediately thank my lucky stars and whatever gods or guardian angels are out there for blessing me with a fully funtional, healthy body and mind.
‘Cutters’ might want to do the same.
Physically disabled people do not turn on their own bodies because of their ailments. They pick themselves up and move on with life as best as they can.
What problems dd this girl have? Did her rich parents not buy her tickets to an MCR concert? Does nobody understand her? Does she feel like ‘cutting’ is her only form of release?
Tough shit. Look around you. Realise the beauty of the world for what it is.
Realise that there are people with problems much, much greater than you that had the good sense not to destroy the most beautiful gift they’ll ever recieve.
On a site like this I don;t think I should explain how I think the human body is a beautiful thing. And it pisses me off that a lot of people(my brother included) had very tough lives because of their physical disabilities and ungrateful fuckwits like this girl and other ‘cutters’ feel the need to destroy and maim their bodies in order to seek attention.
And yes, that is all she is doing, seeking attention. As has already been pointed out, she avoided any fatal areas, then wrote that she wants to die. She posted about 20 of the most disturbing pictures I have ever seen on the internet. And what for? In the name of ‘art’?
She’s destroyed the most precious thing she’ll ever be given and somehow feels like she had the right to.
Fuck her. I hope she burns in hell.
Eeesh, my tummy hurts now 
[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
you are not a cutter so your view on it is tainted. So if I tried to argue I’d end up geting frustrated with the close mindedness round here. I’m just giving the interpretation from the heart of the dark side
Are you taking the fucking piss?
Anyone who doesn’t actively engage in an activity is automatically denied an opinion to it?
This girl needs help, no doubt about it. But she(and other ‘cutters’) need to realise what they have been blessed with. While one could argue that every persons body is their own, I don’t think that’s a valid excuse here.[/quote]
Valid excuse for what? Why would she need an excuse to feel or act in a certain way?
I fail to see how that is relevant. You are about to compare apples and oranges.
Why? Because you say so? You don’t understand her situation, which I’m not condoning by the way. I’m just trying to explain.
Again I don’t see the relevance.
[quote]What problems dd this girl have? Did her rich parents not buy her tickets to an MCR concert? Does nobody understand her? Does she feel like ‘cutting’ is her only form of release?
Tough shit. Look around you. Realise the beauty of the world for what it is.
Realise that there are people with problems much, much greater than you that had the good sense not to destroy the most beautiful gift they’ll ever recieve.[/quote]
You obviously have zero experience with depression or people with mental disorders. Which surprises me considering how angry you are about cutters not respecting people with physical disorders. You don’t need something bad to have happened to you to feel the need to cut, be depressed, have emotional distress.
Open your mind to the possibility that not everyone’s chemical responses are the same.
Um this [quote]ungrateful fuckwit[/quote] may very well have a mental disorder that can’t be fixed by you saving she should get over herself and rot in hell. If you live with someone with a disability how can you not recognize the fact you are being a hypocrite?
False. You need to either meet and get to know a cutter, or read a book or two written by one.
I could apply the above to anyone with a tattoo honestly.
[quote]She’s destroyed the most precious thing she’ll ever be given and somehow feels like she had the right to.
Fuck her. I hope she burns in hell.[/quote]
Dude, you don’t get it. I understand where you are coming from, and understand why you are angry, but you don’t understand where this chick is coming from. She has every right to do what she wants. Do I agree with what she did? No. But I understand it for what it is.
[quote]dudinator wrote:
Dre the Hatchet wrote:
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Who is that second blonde chick posted by Dre?[/quote]
She goes by the name of “Babalu” (Insert own witty joke here) and is a South African/Brazilian adult actress. And she’s got some curvessss…
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Marlind wrote:
Risperidone and Leponex, that girl should take them!
why? what is that based on?
would you make that suggestion for a bodybuilder or heavy lifter? We do dangerous dieting and max our bodies every day. That is as equal in psychosis as cutting,right?
[/quote]
I don’t care to discuss any other points of the discussion because neither side will ever cede, but what part of dieting is “dangerous?” BBers also aren’t the only people that max their bodies every day, there are plenty of labor oriented jobs that require it, as well as any number of athletes that actually do way way more than a BBer due to differences in goals.
You’ve made it clear that your mind is made up that what you(and her, and others) do is not wrong, but the links you are trying to make to other lifestyles as rationalization are so far off.
Well forgive me CB but I firmly belive that this understanding you have about ‘cutters’ is what they thrive on.
I don’t claim to understand why people cut, no more than I understand why some people are addicted to piercings, it is what it is.
I’m a bit to tired to disect your post and respond to it in the same manner you have mine, which is just as well because my opinion on the matter remains:
Like most of us, she has been blessed with a perfectly healthy body and ruined it. That is my opinion on the matter, plain and simple. I feel her actions have merited her not even deserving the body .
The reason I referenced the physically disabled is because I feel sorry for them. Many can’t avoid the stares as they walk down the street. And it genuinely pisses me off that people like this girl take it upon themselves to ruin what others would give anything for.
I’m sorry if you don’t feel that argument delves deep enough into the situattion, but I don’t feel it has to.
I know ‘cutters’. In fact, most of us know more than we think we do. I still don’t understand why people do it, so I usually keep my nose out of such matters. But this really made me angry. Those pictures unsettled me. I mean seriously unsettled me. It was a waste of a human body.
I’m sure she has problems but I have to think about what some people I know have overcome without seeking attention and my pity for her situation quickly turns to disgust.
I’m not a cold person. In fact, I’m regularly called a ‘big softie’, and condemning a person like this is very out of character for me.
But I find it hard to beleive that people can even defend these actions.
Believe me, I don’t think that anybody’s chemical responses are the same. But this wasn’t exactly an impulsive act. It must’ve taken HOURS to do all that, and all to simply destroy herself and alienate herself further from people.
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
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She’s a bit thick, but me likey! Who is she?
Pretty sweet lat spread on the emo girl’s 4th pic.
Edit: Also, “I want to die ASAP” If that was true she’d just shoot herself or slit her throat. Definitely a call for help or just attention whoring.
[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
Well forgive me CB but I firmly belive that this understanding you have about ‘cutters’ is what they thrive on. [/quote]
That is possible i suppose. But the girls I was close to were not like the chick in the orginal post at all, they were much more subtle, and hid it very well. They didn’t want anyone to know, and I found about both of them by accident.
I also had some close friends work in a home for troubled youth. A lot of these girls were cutters, and yes, some did it for attention, but some did it for their own reasons tht don’t concern anyone else.
That’s a very fair statement IMO.
[quote]I’m a bit to tired to disect your post and respond to it in the same manner you have mine, which is just as well because my opinion on the matter remains:
Like most of us, she has been blessed with a perfectly healthy body and ruined it. That is my opinion on the matter, plain and simple. I feel her actions have merited her not even deserving the body .[/quote]
I see what your saying, and on some levels agree. BUT the reason I responded to your original post is that chick has a mental disorder. It is one thing to cut and scar yourself up, it’s another to take it to the places she took it. She is disabled IMO. She can’t think or feel even remotely rational based on what is considered “normal” by contemporary standards.
[quote]The reason I referenced the physically disabled is because I feel sorry for them. Many can’t avoid the stares as they walk down the street. And it genuinely pisses me off that people like this girl take it upon themselves to ruin what others would give anything for.
I’m sorry if you don’t feel that argument delves deep enough into the situattion, but I don’t feel it has to.[/quote]
Yeah I get where your coming from, I just think your dismissing her disability. She has taken cutting and self mutilation to a level that isn’t normal at all. I mean people that get off on bondage and simulated torture are out there IMO, but this chick blows that shit away. She has a problem.
I tend to agree with everything you wrote here.
I’ve never met anyone worth knowing that wanted pity form others. (That’s not a knock against anything you said. I’m just very apathetic towards other people generally.)
[quote]I’m not a cold person. In fact, I’m regularly called a ‘big softie’, and condemning a person like this is very out of character for me.
But I find it hard to beleive that people can even defend these actions. [/quote]
I am not defending it. Just trying to share what I know about the situation…
Yeah, this particular person went WAY too far IMO. Some cuts here and there are one thing, what she did is enough over the top where I believe she, in this particular case, has a mental handicap. That’s why it’s not fair to tell her to burn in hell.
Pssh…it’s your body. Who the fuck am I to tell someone I don’t know what to do with it.
i knew a few people who cut themselves in school. they had it pretty good. the people i knew with real problems just sucked it up and got on with it, none of this flouncing around going “i did this last night” its attention whoring on the grandest scale.
your body is the first thing youre given and the last thing to be taken from you. why f*ck around with it like that?
can we make this thread about howt emos noaw?
[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
Ct. Rockula wrote:
you are not a cutter so your view on it is tainted. So if I tried to argue I’d end up geting frustrated with the close mindedness round here. I’m just giving the interpretation from the heart of the dark side
Are you taking the fucking piss?
Anyone who doesn’t actively engage in an activity is automatically denied an opinion to it?
This girl needs help, no doubt about it. But she(and other ‘cutters’) need to realise what they have been blessed with. While one could argue that every persons body is their own, I don’t think that’s a valid excuse here.
Everytime I see a a physically disabled person, in a wheelchair, with one leg drastically shorter than the other, with a hunch etc, I immediately thank my lucky stars and whatever gods or guardian angels are out there for blessing me with a fully funtional, healthy body and mind.
‘Cutters’ might want to do the same.
Physically disabled people do not turn on their own bodies because of their ailments. They pick themselves up and move on with life as best as they can.
What problems dd this girl have? Did her rich parents not buy her tickets to an MCR concert? Does nobody understand her? Does she feel like ‘cutting’ is her only form of release?
Tough shit. Look around you. Realise the beauty of the world for what it is.
Realise that there are people with problems much, much greater than you that had the good sense not to destroy the most beautiful gift they’ll ever recieve.
On a site like this I don;t think I should explain how I think the human body is a beautiful thing. And it pisses me off that a lot of people(my brother included) had very tough lives because of their physical disabilities and ungrateful fuckwits like this girl and other ‘cutters’ feel the need to destroy and maim their bodies in order to seek attention.
And yes, that is all she is doing, seeking attention. As has already been pointed out, she avoided any fatal areas, then wrote that she wants to die. She posted about 20 of the most disturbing pictures I have ever seen on the internet. And what for? In the name of ‘art’?
She’s destroyed the most precious thing she’ll ever be given and somehow feels like she had the right to.
Fuck her. I hope she burns in hell.[/quote]
You’re stupid. You have no idea why she cuts herself…what if she was brutally raped and beaten as child and never feels pretty because of that? There are plenty of reasons to reject yourself…not saying it’s a smart thing to do but you’re a moron.
Look at you, sympathizing with the disabled…do you think every physically challenged wants your pity? What if the physically disabled is a fuckwit who participated in illegal street racing and got in an accident? What if they were a former gang member who got their legs broken? Oh look at you, making assumptions again thinking that every physically disabled person has a heart of gold and survived with courage. What about cutters in wheelchairs? What about the physically disabled who would be gothic and cut if they were physically healthy? Look at the world from every angle.