A question about fats and egg whites…
It seems by what I have gathered and the logic of it…taking an egg white out of it’s natural state doesn’t enable optimum absorption…
So, instead of using the yolks, what about egg whites and pouring fish oil on it to get some EPA’s and DHA’s too…
Taste doesn’t matter…RESULTS baby!
Eat the entire egg. See my post under “boiling your Eggs”.
honestly, that sounds like the most disgusting combination of foods that i have ever heard.
There is nothing wrong with the egg yolk other than extra calories and a possibility of increasing cholesterol over time. From my experience (with people in the family with cholesterol problems), the main trouble seems to be frying eggs in bacon grease or something similar. I don’t see a lot of problems if you are microwaving the eggs or boiling them.
Don’t worry about cholesterol…Worry about saturates, and then only if they are in combination with carbs.
Every morning, I eat three whole eggs and 1 tbsp of fish oil.
Greekdawg, I eat 3 (whole) eggs most days myself, and my cholesterol’s dropped from 170 (prior to adopting the T-Mag lifestyle) to 120!!!
Just been reading a very good book called Nourishing Traditions and it states that saturated fats aren’t the bad guy but oxidised polyunsaturates are. There has been a massive increase in CHD in the last 50 years but saturated fat consumption has decreased by (I think) 60 %!
Numerous studies were quoted that basically said that cholesterol levels in most people are not linked to saturated fat/cholesterol intake but to body fat mass and consumption of rancid or oxidixed unsaturated fatty acids.
Basically, while unsaturated fats have healthfull properties (Cellular metabolism, formation of prostaglandins and sex hormones etc), they are easily turned bad when exposed to heat, light and air, where as saturated fats are inert, don’t go off and the body likes to store them in your addipose tissue. Excess saturated fats can make you fat especially when consumed with high GI Carbohydrates but don’t clogg up yout arteries. The fat found in arteries is predominately unsaturated!
Pre 1920, there was literally no CHD - but then there was no fast food industry either…Food for thought 
Now, before any body flames me for this information, I am just telling you what was in this I book I read.
TampaTerry,
I would be concerned about a total Cholesterol figure of 120!
The latest research indicates that while extremely high Cholesterol may be dangerous, a number approaching 300. Extremely low Cholesterol is also dangerous for other reasons.
Do a google search on “low Cholesterol” or see a good doctor who keeps him/herself abreast of the latest developments!
What Zeb’s talking about is that people with low cholesterol are (possibly) at increased risk for mood disorders, suicide, violence, despression, hemorrhagic stroke, and possibly cancer. Additionally, my concern is that steroidal hormones are made from cholesterol, not an area in which I want a deficiency.
Zeb, I did some research on the subject and even called one of the advisors at the LEF. No one seems to have any ideas on how I can increase my cholesterol over what I’m doing currently.
My doc did say that it’s the HDL portion I would want to raise, not just the total number. He told me that cardio should help, niacin and flaxseed oil should increase the HDL number, but I already do daily cardio, take 6g of EPA/DHA most days (or flaxseed oil) and have niacin included in my multi. I also do not avoid the saturated fat in the meat I eat and eat a couple of dozen eggs a week.
I’m not suffering any of the possible side affects listed above, but do you have any ideas?
Usually if HDL is low, it means triglycerides are high, so maybe attempting to reduce TGs is one option.
MUFAs and phytosterols (not a fan of the latter) have been shown to positively affect HDL levels.
“Normal” cholesterol has been defined by what is usually found in the American population. This value is 210 mg/dl. However, Americans have a 50% chance of dying prematurely from a heart attack or a stroke. “Normal” has been defined by a sick population of people. Therefore, an average American cholesterol level is not for you. When cholesterol increases by 60 mg/dl (say 200 to 260 mg/dl) your risk of dying of heart disease increases 5-fold.
Ideal cholesterol is defined by observing populations of people who do not suffer from heart disease. These would be people living in rural areas of Asia and Africa. Or even some Americans who have very low cholesterol levels, such as the population studied in Framingham, Massachusetts. This ideal level where heart disease is practically unknown is observed to be below 150 mg/dl. Ideally, this level should be achieved by a low-fat, vegetarian diet alone. However, many people (because they have been packing cholesterol away in their tissues for decades) cannot achieve this ideal without the help of medication.
Now obviously everyone including myself shuns a diet without chicken, salmon, turkey, etc for muscle building goals… But if we are talking about pure numbers, the stats don’t lie…
Oogie,
Your stats seem to lie! Did you know that fully half of the people who die of heart disease have high cholesterol. The only problem is that the other half have either normal or low cholesterol!
Total cholesterol is a very poor predictor of heart disease.
Let me give you a link which you may find interesting:
http.www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm
so why do elderly live longer when they have higher cholesterol?
I am simply questioning “Normal” cholesterol. We are basing this on the American population which honestly is a sick population of people.
What are we truly debating? That Terry has dangerously low cholesterol because someone read a study that states there are (possibly) at increased risk for mood disorders, suicide, violence, despression, hemorrhagic stroke, and possibly cancer.
We can go on and on… I can tell you about my Uncle Johnny who ate salami and cheese everyday and polished off a bottle of Johnny Walker every other day… He lived to be 95…
If Terry got on this site and was complaining about mood swings, thoughts of killing small animals and was just diagnosed with cancer, I would say “Yes, there is a study that supports the possiblity of a link with the low cholesterol reading.”
After a while, I think you invite those symptoms with all the stress and worrying…LISTEN TO YOUR BODY TERRY!
as far as Cholesterol i wouldnt worry…as long as you take your EPA DHA atleast like 3grams a day. Your body will use the excess cholesterol to fortify cell walls and membranes cause HDL Cholesterol is rather weak for building. Atkins was big on this principle before his diet craze hit, and everyone though eating grease and protein and no veggies or fiber was the atkins diet. BUT anyway …that should help i hope
Actually, the very latest medical information states that the actual cholesterol will not harm you.
It seems that inflamation caused with in the artery is what catches the cholesterol as it flows through and then causes a clog.
The news gets better! Guess what keeps inflamation at bay? Exercise!
Thunder, thank you! Of all the people I’ve talked to, you’re the only one with suggestions/recommendations that look like they might work.
Oogie, your point about testing of a sick population establishing the “norm,” is well taken. I knew that about blood tests and lab ranges, but didn’t connect it to my situation. (Duh!)
FunkMasterFlex, you bring up a good point. What I’m going to have to research is what the liver’s preferred substrates are for cholesterol production.
The news gets better! Guess what keeps inflamation at bay? Exercise!
Zeb, that and our flaxeed and high-dose fish oil!!!
The book I mentioned also said that cholesterol levels will rise in when there is excess oxidised fat in the diet as cholesterol is actually required to repair artery wall damage and is there fore a symptom of a problem and not the cause…
As far as lowering triglycerides - surely that is impossible as triglycerides are just the structure of fats in nature i.e. three fatty acids attatched to a glycerol back bone.
Fats in nature are rarely 100 % saturated or unsaturated and this is shown ion the basic formation of a tryglyeride - glycerol back bone with maybe two saturated fatty acids and an unsaturated fatty acid attatched.
Hey - this is good - body builders interested in health as well as appearence! I’m off to eat my eggs now…
Great to see FunkMasterFlex on this site…
He’s a legend in the forum realm - you can see some of his postings on other inferior forums…nice to see he’s stepped up on the big stage!
This forum now has some amazing minds to pick - JeffT and FunkMasterFlex are two of the Jersey Shore’s finest students of the Thomas Walters school of Sports Nutrition and Performance…
JeffT…your thoughts on the cholesterol debate? And did you take your Super Seed today?
LOL
I just saw this today and I have to say it has been interesting.
Oogie, my friend, glad to see you on board. And yes, I have taken my Super Seed today. TWICE!!
Now that the secret’s out, this board should be a bit more interesting.