what is everyones thoughts on eating whole eggs as to egg whites only? i have heard so many different stories on eggs. is the yolk really bad for you? to much fat or what?
[quote]goldman812 wrote:
what is everyones thoughts on eating whole eggs as to egg whites only? i have heard so many different stories on eggs. is the yolk really bad for you? to much fat or what?[/quote]
Protein actually needs a little fat to aid in digestion.
Eat the whole egg imo, exceptions would be pre contest BB or on a cut - which i am never on.
i know the FDA recomends no more than 2 egg yolks a week because of the cholesterol…but what does the FDA know.
This must be the 30th post I’ve read this past month about eggs. Come on, please read around a little bit before posting.
Dietary cholesterol DOESN’T make your cholesterol levels go up.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
This must be the 30th post I’ve read this past month about eggs. Come on, please read around a little bit before posting.
Dietary cholesterol DOESN’T make your cholesterol levels go up.[/quote]
exactly, search this type of shit first. use eggwhites only in addition to real eggs. by themselves they have been shown to reduce growth potential because of disproportional amino acid ratios.
-chris
It’s saturated fat that makes your cholesterol go up and not dietary cholesterol itself. But we also need some saturated fat. Just don’t be excessive. And make sure to eat plenty of polys and monos. The amount of saturated fat in a few egg yolks themselves is nowhere need too much for your daily intake.
Off-topic, but what do you guys do about the clear “silicone” type bubble surrounding the yolk? I hate that shit, and always try to sort of scrape it off after I have fried it, but alas, I take most of the egg with it. Just wondering if there is a secret to removing it.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
It’s saturated fat that makes your cholesterol go up and not dietary cholesterol itself. But we also need some saturated fat. Just don’t be excessive. And make sure to eat plenty of polys and monos. The amount of saturated fat in a few egg yolks themselves is nowhere need too much for your daily intake.[/quote]
Saturated fat makes your cholesterol go up? Are you secretly Ancel Keys himself?
I’d have to disagree with that. Although, I don’t believe it matters what causes cholesterol levels to go up, since high cholesterol levels are not a marker of poor health.
To the OP, eat the whole darn thing, and lots of them.
I read its ok to eat the whole egg and not worry about the cholesterol if its organic.
idk, thats what I read.
I always eat the whole egg… 2 a day almost
You should eat the whole egg. I was into the egg white fad and everything, but the benefits of eating the whole egg outweighs just one negative side effect of cholesterol (which is kept in check with continual weight lifting and correct diet anyway).
Eat the whole egg, unless you don’t want Vitamin D, B12, folate, riboflavin, and protein (which all help in muscle growth). Just moderate it.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
This must be the 30th post I’ve read this past month about eggs. Come on, please read around a little bit before posting.
Dietary cholesterol DOESN’T make your cholesterol levels go up.[/quote]
Here, we’ll do it again:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1376869
I still eat this way, but like Cthulu I LOVE eggs any way I have ever heard of eating them. I usually eat 6 whole scrambled in the morning with 4 ounces of full fat cheddar/monterey jack cheese melted in, slow fried over low heat in real butter with a side of raw spinach and brocolli. MMMMMMM!!! the rest are usually boiled.
I like 2 whites and 1 yolk or 2 whites and a lotta cheese
[quote]smallnomore wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
It’s saturated fat that makes your cholesterol go up and not dietary cholesterol itself. But we also need some saturated fat. Just don’t be excessive. And make sure to eat plenty of polys and monos. The amount of saturated fat in a few egg yolks themselves is nowhere need too much for your daily intake.
Saturated fat makes your cholesterol go up? Are you secretly Ancel Keys himself?
I’d have to disagree with that. Although, I don’t believe it matters what causes cholesterol levels to go up, since high cholesterol levels are not a marker of poor health.
To the OP, eat the whole darn thing, and lots of them.[/quote]
For healthy active people everything you said is true. The trouble is all these studies are done on sedentary, middle aged (or older), overweight people or at least are never done on active, healthy people who don’t eat lots of refined foods and trans fats.
The results with these people show deleterious effects that are in now way reflective of seriously health minded people. For the average slug who swills coke and lives on packaged processed food, yes saturated fat is bad for them, but so is running up a flight of stairs if they don’t work their way into it.
Cool thread.
I really started to understand how throwing away the yold was b.s about a few months ago. Just look at the nutrition data, it has so many vitamins and minerals in it. Eggs are some high quality food, and should not be messed with.
I agree with Tribulus in his thinking that yolks arn’t bad for their fat content on the basis that since most of us don’t eat a lot of shit food, it is safe to say we can get away with it.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
smallnomore wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
It’s saturated fat that makes your cholesterol go up and not dietary cholesterol itself. But we also need some saturated fat. Just don’t be excessive. And make sure to eat plenty of polys and monos. The amount of saturated fat in a few egg yolks themselves is nowhere need too much for your daily intake.
Saturated fat makes your cholesterol go up? Are you secretly Ancel Keys himself?
I’d have to disagree with that. Although, I don’t believe it matters what causes cholesterol levels to go up, since high cholesterol levels are not a marker of poor health.
To the OP, eat the whole darn thing, and lots of them.
For healthy active people everything you said is true. The trouble is all these studies are done on sedentary, middle aged (or older), overweight people or at least are never done on active, healthy people who don’t eat lots of refined foods and trans fats.
The results with these people show deleterious effects that are in now way reflective of seriously health minded people. For the average slug who swills coke and lives on packaged processed food, yes saturated fat is bad for them, but so is running up a flight of stairs if they don’t work their way into it.[/quote]
I agree. Not only did the studies show this in sedentary adults, but they also never distinguished between their trans fat and saturated fat ratio. Many of the studies that were done were not given meat only diets. In other words, they were given ample amounts of saturated fat from both meat and processed junk food.
Now, last time I checked, most boxed foods contain a good amount of trans fat. Obviously, they’d have to elaborate and be more specific on the fat ratio that is broken down and given in these studies. Until then, I believe there is no conclusive evidence showing that only saturated fat makes your cholesterol levels go up.
[quote]DanErickson wrote:
Cool thread.
I really started to understand how throwing away the yold was b.s about a few months ago. Just look at the nutrition data, it has so many vitamins and minerals in it. Eggs are some high quality food, and should not be messed with.
I agree with Tribulus in his thinking that yolks arn’t bad for their fat content on the basis that since most of us don’t eat a lot of shit food, it is safe to say we can get away with it.[/quote]
If it’s made by nature, indulge. If it’s made by man, avoid it.
Follow those principles and you’ll do just fine as far as health goes.
Numerous dietary studies have been undertaken to determine the effect of cholesterol intake on the level in the body.
Thirteen patients at the Highland Hospital in Oakland, California were fed the equivalent in egg yolks of that found in 15 eggs per day for a 3 week period. The serum cholesterol did not increase significantly in any except two bedridden, obese patients. Four of the 7 ambulatory patients in the study actually showed a slight decrease in serum cholesterol.
In the Ireland-Boston Heart Study the researchers followed 600 Irishmen between the ages of 30 and 60 who had lived in Boston for 10 or more years and their brothers who had never left the old country. The Irish brothers ate about twice as many eggs as their American brothers–averaging over 14 per week. Yet, the Irish brothers had lower levels of cholesterol in their bloodstream, and their hearts were rated from 2 to 6 times healthier. The same Harvard doctor examined both groups. More physical exercise was given as a possible reason for this difference.
Dr. Robert Itchiness, a cardiologist in New York city specializing in metabolic disorders, has treated over 8,000 patients. He lowered the serum cholesterol markedly in 63 percent of his patients with a diet high in meat, milk, and eggs. Dr. Itchiness believes that 95 percent of all heart trouble is associated with high serum triglycerides and attributes this to the staggering increase in sugar consumption–up from 7 pounds per person in 1840 to over 100 pounds today.
Probably the most comprehensive research project in the diet-heart field was the Framingham Heart Program which began in 1948 in a community 30 miles west of Boston. Five thousand people were involved over a period of 20 years. Their diets were not changed, but what each person ate was recorded. Four risk factors associated with coronary heart disease were identified:
High blood pressure
Excess cholesterol in the blood
Cigarette smoking
Obesity
The report issued after the Framingham Study was concluded said: “There is no suggestion of any relationship between diet and the subsequent development of coronary heart disease in the study group despite a distinct elevation of serum cholesterol in those developing coronary heart disease.”
Little doubt exists that high blood serum cholesterol levels are related to higher incidence of heart disease. But there is considerable variation in individual’s ability to handle cholesterol. Most people appear to be able to regulate the production of cholesterol in their body according to dietary changes; others cannot. For those who cannot, special precautions need to be taken. But a radical dietary change for the entire population does not seem to be desirable nor warranted.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
<<< If it’s made by nature, indulge. If it’s made by man, avoid it.
Follow those principles and you’ll do just fine as far as health goes.
[/quote]
There are of course some exceptions to this, like quality supps, but that is the rule I follow. Man’s ingenuity, when it comes to food, leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Hey a pun!
Hey Cthulu,
Where did you get that research data from?
I want to know because I want to know where to look for actual reaserch information in book form.
[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
If it’s made by nature, indulge. If it’s made by man, avoid it.
Follow those principles and you’ll do just fine as far as health goes.
[/quote]
But what if it was something nature made and then Man modified it in some sort of way? Like farm animals and steroids to make them grow faster.
This would actually make the egg indirectly included.