I don’t see a problem with adding eggs in, I can’t stand any cooked eggs other than hard boiled. For some reason I always get a stomach ache from them.
I’ve been thinking of doing the same as like you said it just makes the shake more complete since you are adding more protein sources in there, and whats a normal serving shake like 25g of protein. And yes I’ve seen eggs are the most complete protein source.
[quote]BiG BeN wrote:
I don’t see a problem with adding eggs in, I can’t stand any cooked eggs other than hard boiled. For some reason I always get a stomach ache from them.
I’ve been thinking of doing the same as like you said it just makes the shake more complete since you are adding more protein sources in there, and whats a normal serving shake like 25g of protein. And yes I’ve seen eggs are the most complete protein source.[/quote]
I love cooked eggs.
I love 'em raw too.
I usually eat about 15-20 eggs a day,12-20 usually being cooked and 12-8 usually being raw.
It just depends on how and when you’re using them. Raw taste better when they’re in shakes and are easier when you’re on the go. Cooked are best for a sit down meal.
Actually raw egg products provide only about half the protein of their cooked counterparts. The protein isn’t fully bio-available until it’s heated.
Even still, I see no problem with adding eggs to shakes if you like the taste/texture. I plan to try it soon.
I thought you had to heat albumin to metabolize all of the protein. That’s why I drink egg whites/add them to shakes. The pasteurization makes them readily digestible and free of most bacteria. At least this is what I thought. I used to just eat raw eggs/add them to shakes but heard that you don’t get all of the protein this way.
[quote]sasquatch wrote:
You seem to be incapable of being wrong. Let me try to explain why your raw vs. cooked means nothing here. He is talking about adding them to a shake. He is doing it for convenience sake–not for taste or 2% more or less absorption. He is doing it because it is convenient and a different type protein profile. He is talking about adding egg beaters or another such egg white product or pasturized whole egg product. He is not talking about raw in the pure sense.
And just for the hell of it. I like my eggs cooked—but not when I add them to my shake.[/quote]
It’s not a matter of being right or wrong. I understand why he’s adding them to the shakes- for convenience. The point, which you seem incapable of comprehending, I was trying to make is that if you’re going to ingest them why not cook them and enjoy them? Convenience is fine if that’s all you care about.
I don’t get what was so difficult for you to understand? Did it actually seem like it was a matter of the right or wrong way to do things? I never said eating them raw was wrong.
[quote]sasquatch wrote:
eengrms76 wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
Because it is a different form of protein.
Still doesn’t explain why eat them raw? Again- if you’re going to ingest the protein why not have it in a form that is enjoyable? Isn’t that the reason why we buy Biotest products instead of junk at GNC? Biotest’s protein tastes better. (yes it’s better quality protein too, but for sake of [i]my[/i] argument I’m choosing to ignore that)
I didn’t know any Biotest products contained egg albumin?? Then again, I only expect regurgitation out of your posts anyway.[/quote]
Huh? Where did I say Biotest products contain eggs? I just said we buy Biotest because it tastes better (hence the argument for cooked over raw eggs, i.e. cooked tastes better). Did I really need to spell that out for you? Are you really this stupid or is today a special day?
[quote]Kruiser wrote:
Actually raw egg products provide only about half the protein of their cooked counterparts. The protein isn’t fully bio-available until it’s heated.
Even still, I see no problem with adding eggs to shakes if you like the taste/texture. I plan to try it soon. [/quote]
I think there needs to be more research done on eggs and digestibility.
A couple studies aren’t gonna make me believe that you shouldn’t eat raw eggs for protein consumption.
I’ve been eating raw eggs for some good time now and have never experienced any muscle loss or anything of that nature.
My experience with raw eggs is that they are absorbed correctly by my body.
Besides,it’s not like I’m eating raw eggs at EVERY meal,so it really doesn’t matter.
That study doesn’t say that raw eggs ARENT’ absorbed at all.
I usually drink the raw eggs with my shake,so it really doesn’t matter since I’m not consuming them alone.
I eat raw eggs more for the health benefits than trying get enough protein in.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
eengrms76 wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
Because it is a different form of protein.
Still doesn’t explain why eat them raw? Again- if you’re going to ingest the protein why not have it in a form that is enjoyable? Isn’t that the reason why we buy Biotest products instead of junk at GNC? Biotest’s protein tastes better. (yes it’s better quality protein too, but for sake of [i]my[/i] argument I’m choosing to ignore that)
I didn’t know any Biotest products contained egg albumin?? Then again, I only expect regurgitation out of your posts anyway.
Huh? Where did I say Biotest products contain eggs? I just said we buy Biotest because it tastes better (hence the argument for cooked over raw eggs, i.e. cooked tastes better). Did I really need to spell that out for you? Are you really this stupid or is today a special day?[/quote]
I have special days.
The raw vs. cooked egg argument is definitely an emotional one. But there does not seem to be any true benefit (in my opinion) from consuming raw eggs - only the possibility of harm. Many people eat raw eggs without getting sick but there is a serious risk here (e.g. death). Unless you are pulling the eggs out of the chicken’s rear end then I wouldn’t recommend eating raw eggs. Also by consuming raw eggs you always run the risk of a biotin deficiency as eggs contain avidin which binds biotin and prevents its absorption. Cooking the eggs “deactivates” avidin.
In reality eggs protein is not a “different form of protein” compared to whey or casein. They all contain all the essential amino acid. If you are having a shake that contains 20-40 grams of whey and/or casein adding an egg or too isn’t going to make a difference amino acid wise. You could add more whey/casein and get the same effect. In fact casein is probably the best protein of the bunch (egg/whey/casein) because research has shown casein to have an antiprotolytic effect in addition to stimulating protein synthesis.
-MR
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
eengrms76 wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
Because it is a different form of protein.
Still doesn’t explain why eat them raw? Again- if you’re going to ingest the protein why not have it in a form that is enjoyable? Isn’t that the reason why we buy Biotest products instead of junk at GNC? Biotest’s protein tastes better. (yes it’s better quality protein too, but for sake of [i]my[/i] argument I’m choosing to ignore that)
I didn’t know any Biotest products contained egg albumin?? Then again, I only expect regurgitation out of your posts anyway.
Huh? Where did I say Biotest products contain eggs? I just said we buy Biotest because it tastes better (hence the argument for cooked over raw eggs, i.e. cooked tastes better). Did I really need to spell that out for you? Are you really this stupid or is today a special day?[/quote]
The whole thread was about adding eggs to your shakes.
As usual you whored yourself to the site and brought up why ‘we’ buy Biotest. What does that have to do with the post? My comment was just that. Seeing as none of the powders available here have egg in them, what exactly was your point execpt to promote a product that doesn’t fit the thread.
Just continue to do what you do best. Promote this site and spew your little tirades with anyone who disagrees with you. I’ll be in the gym. Then I’ll have my GNC shake with some added egg.
[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
sasquatch wrote:
You seem to be incapable of being wrong. Let me try to explain why your raw vs. cooked means nothing here. He is talking about adding them to a shake. He is doing it for convenience sake–not for taste or 2% more or less absorption. He is doing it because it is convenient and a different type protein profile. He is talking about adding egg beaters or another such egg white product or pasturized whole egg product. He is not talking about raw in the pure sense.
And just for the hell of it. I like my eggs cooked—but not when I add them to my shake.
It’s not a matter of being right or wrong. I understand why he’s adding them to the shakes- for convenience. The point, which you seem incapable of comprehending, I was trying to make is that if you’re going to ingest them why not cook them and enjoy them? Convenience is fine if that’s all you care about.
I don’t get what was so difficult for you to understand? Did it actually seem like it was a matter of the right or wrong way to do things? I never said eating them raw was wrong.[/quote]
No, the point to which I was refering was every one of your posts made it seem like he should cook them when his question was not about that. Who gives 2 shits how you like your eggs–not me. It is quite alright to add them to your shake. It adds some nice consistancy and there is virtually no taste when added to the protein. Now that makes your whole taste good ad nauseum argument useless–like I said previously.
If it wasn’t a matter of right or wrong to you, why did you post 4 times above remarking every time someone said it was ok that thney taste better cooked?
[quote]Mike Roussell wrote:
The raw vs. cooked egg argument is definitely an emotional one. But there does not seem to be any true benefit (in my opinion) from consuming raw eggs - only the possibility of harm. Many people eat raw eggs without getting sick but there is a serious risk here (e.g. death). Unless you are pulling the eggs out of the chicken’s rear end then I wouldn’t recommend eating raw eggs. Also by consuming raw eggs you always run the risk of a biotin deficiency as eggs contain avidin which binds biotin and prevents its absorption. Cooking the eggs “deactivates” avidin.
In reality eggs protein is not a “different form of protein” compared to whey or casein. They all contain all the essential amino acid. If you are having a shake that contains 20-40 grams of whey and/or casein adding an egg or too isn’t going to make a difference amino acid wise. You could add more whey/casein and get the same effect. In fact casein is probably the best protein of the bunch (egg/whey/casein) because research has shown casein to have an antiprotolytic effect in addition to stimulating protein synthesis.
-MR
[/quote]
You won’t develop a biotin deficiency consuming raw eggs because there is not enough biotin in an egg yolk to bind to all the avidin present in the raw whites.
5.7 grams of biotin are required to neutralize all the avidin found in the raw whites of an average-sized egg.
There are only about 25 micrograms – or 25 millionths of a gram – of biotin in an average egg yolk.
As I said before,no one relies on raw eggs as their MAIN protein source,so,once again,it really doesn’t matter. I sometimes eat just the yolks raw,and cook the whites,along with making egg sandwiches,cooking them whole,etc.
[quote]sasquatch wrote:
As usual you whored yourself to the site and brought up why ‘we’ buy Biotest. What does that have to do with the post? My comment was just that. Seeing as none of the powders available here have egg in them, what exactly was your point execpt to promote a product that doesn’t fit the thread.
Just continue to do what you do best. Promote this site and spew your little tirades with anyone who disagrees with you. I’ll be in the gym. Then I’ll have my GNC shake with some added egg. [/quote]
Uggh… It’s becoming tiring having to spell things out. I used Biotest as an example of why someone would buy something based on taste. I could have used any manufacturer of any product, but becasue I happen to use the Biotest name I’m whoring. That makes sense.
X if you’re reading this can I borrow your crayons?
[quote]sasquatch wrote:
No, the point to which I was refering was every one of your posts made it seem like he should cook them when his question was not about that. Who gives 2 shits how you like your eggs–not me. [/quote]
I didn’t realize I wasn’t entitled to my opinion anymore, or is just on threads you read. I need ot be clear on this to avoid any future confusion.
Ok. Good for you. I enjoy eating my calories. That’s all I was saying.
Because every time someone remarked they misinterpreted what I said and I was just clarifying. For some reason the english languauge is escaping people today as everyone seems to think I was saying that you shouldn’t eat raw eggs, when in reality my first, and originally planned to be only, comment was I would rather cook them then eat them raw. That’s it. I know it’s hard to imagine I didn’t have some whoring ulterior motive to everything I said.
Why do you seem to have some vested interest in how and what I post? Does it really matter to you all that much? Do I have a stalker on my hands? I have enough of those in real life let alone on a message board.