One thing edgy said to me that I say to myself during every workout “grip it and rip it spockie girl”.
Now obviously you would have to change this around a bit, but I find it really works, ha!
[quote]Edgy wrote:
did some back/bi’s this morning, nothing to write home about, but am back in the game and healed up (parially) from Wednesday s PR~[/quote]
Aww shit!! Choctaw Bingo!
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
So did deadlifts tonight. Things went fine. I got 225 and vid for it but not sure the pull would get past the judges, not sure if I got it or not. Oh and I was lazy and didn’t take off the 35s, and 5 pound plates from the 215 I pulled before, I just added on 5lbs pound plates. So it doesn’t look any different. Blah.
Wrist trouble too. My strongest grip is mixed with right hook and left reverse but that hurt my wrist, so I was going with the other mixed grip. Which hurt a bit less but felt weird and not as strong.
This is 195lbs for 1. Form check. I know my ass is high but can’t figure out how to start with a lower ass position without knee travel(ouch).
Another form check 205lbs
If the 225 is not good then this is my new PR 215lbs
This is the 225lbs. Yes, no,? I felt like I didn’t get the squeeze at the top. :-/
No sprints the lights were off at the park for some reason and it had been raining all day. Blah.
I think I need to add chalk to the list of things I need for lifting. Bar was slipping.
I was so beat after 225 that there were no accessories. [/quote]
Hi there 
I heard there was a threeway going on and I’m here to watch.
Nice pulls. You are strong! I noticed that at the top, you’re hitching the weight with your arms to get yourself into the closed out position. First of all, that means you’re strong enough to pull more than this if you can lift it a bit just with your arms. Secondly, it means you aren’t finishing the DL itself all the way at the top, even though you are strong enough to do that and you are lifting it just fine. Instead of pausing with the bar nearly closed out and then readjusting with your arms into the fully closed out position, think about using your hips and ass from the beginning of the lift to achieve the fulling closed out position without any movement of your shoulders and arms whatsoever. Set your shoulders and arms at the bottom, and keep them ram-rod positioned throughout the whole lift. Think about driving from the bottom smoothly into the superman position at the top (ass tight, core perfectly straight, shoulders back and together, chest sticking out and up, without arching your back. )
Just dropping in 'cause I heard DL PRs were dropping like flies over here. Great job, Edgy and Chuck. Now it’s on to 5 plates and 3 plates!
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
[quote]Kairiki wrote:
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
Will go on an article/vid hunt to find out positions and all that stuff. I’m a visual learner.
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Char, here is my go-to video for Deadlifts…study this and especially crushing the bar…you DL will improve dramatically…Congrats on a great effort!
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My legs are pretty close to being bent like his at the start of my pull, if I focus on my back being as angled as his I’m squatting the weight up. I used this vid before and either the squats or the deads hurt my knees. I’m trying to stay away from using short gorilla proportioned peoples vids as guides.
More like make my low back stable, quarter squat leg angle, and not let my ass fly up.
I’m the opposite of a gorilla and I have yet to find a vid of a short armed long legged dler.
Long leg, long arm, yep.
Short arm, short leg, yep.
Long armed, short leg, yep.
Oh and everyone appears to have a long torso too.
:-/
I appreciate the help guys. I’m going with rack pulls. Probably from the knees or where ever the last half of the dl happens/starts. [/quote]
You likely will never see an instructional video of a short armed deadlifter because the best deadlifters have gorilla arms so they are typically the ones seen in videos. Having said that, you can pull a lot more than you are with confidence. The key is to make the most of your own levers.
Your back looked tight. I don’t remember any rounding or your hips rising too fast. One thing I’ve noted quite extensively on these forums are the times people are quick to jump in and offer advice that isn’t requested and is advice for it’s own sake; like those who purely like the sound of their own voice or to read their own words.
Forgive me if I sound pissy, BB forgot to bring our chalk to the gym. I still haven’t gotten past it
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
One thing I’ve noted quite extensively on these forums are the times people are quick to jump in and offer advice that isn’t requested and is advice for it’s own sake; like those who purely like the sound of their own voice or to read their own words.
Forgive me if I sound pissy, BB forgot to bring our chalk to the gym. I still haven’t gotten past it :)[/quote]
Thank, Ouroboro, for this reminder and my deepest apologies to Char. Our, you are very correct and as a gentleman, I needed to ask first before I spewed out advice. Thank you again for the correction.
Charlie, my unsolicited .02 comments: you need to pull back at the start, not pull up; every vid I’ve ever seen of good deadlifters, no matter how they look during their setup, their shins are perpendicular to the floor by the time the bar leaves the floor.
As long as your lower back is (slightly) arched and tight, your hip angle is fine, the higher the better imho. “You can quarter squat a lot more than you can full squat.”
How long you futz around is also an individual thing. Check out Tuchscherer (best PLer around right now) and Eric Lillibridge’s vids, EL especially takes forever. They do both “lock and load” with their hips though to get as much stretch reflex as possible while they’re futzing around.
Not sure, but I think your hitching/lockout problems might be due to a lack of upper back strength (Kroc rows?). Also once the bar passes your knees, shift the focus from pulling to humping the bar as someone else mentioned.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
[quote]Kairiki wrote:
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
Will go on an article/vid hunt to find out positions and all that stuff. I’m a visual learner.
[/quote]
Char, here is my go-to video for Deadlifts…study this and especially crushing the bar…you DL will improve dramatically…Congrats on a great effort!
[/quote]
My legs are pretty close to being bent like his at the start of my pull, if I focus on my back being as angled as his I’m squatting the weight up. I used this vid before and either the squats or the deads hurt my knees. I’m trying to stay away from using short gorilla proportioned peoples vids as guides.
More like make my low back stable, quarter squat leg angle, and not let my ass fly up.
I’m the opposite of a gorilla and I have yet to find a vid of a short armed long legged dler.
Long leg, long arm, yep.
Short arm, short leg, yep.
Long armed, short leg, yep.
Oh and everyone appears to have a long torso too.
:-/
I appreciate the help guys. I’m going with rack pulls. Probably from the knees or where ever the last half of the dl happens/starts. [/quote]
You likely will never see an instructional video of a short armed deadlifter because the best deadlifters have gorilla arms so they are typically the ones seen in videos. Having said that, you can pull a lot more than you are with confidence. The key is to make the most of your own levers.
Your back looked tight. I don’t remember any rounding or your hips rising too fast. One thing I’ve noted quite extensively on these forums are the times people are quick to jump in and offer advice that isn’t requested and is advice for it’s own sake; like those who purely like the sound of their own voice or to read their own words.
Forgive me if I sound pissy, BB forgot to bring our chalk to the gym. I still haven’t gotten past it :)[/quote]
Ouch. I just saw this after I posted. I agree and I thought some of the advice was not particularly on target, which is why I opened my big yap.
Please forgive me Ms. O.
Well I got to say I like hearing that the fact that I can get the weight off the floor means I can pull more.
We’ll see what kind of singles I can get in a month or so of practice(especially with the weaker mixed grip) and some rack pulls. I usually do row and pull down type exercises already. Will look into the Kroc variation. Although I’d like to try just adding in the one different exercise at a time to see what it does first.
Oh and CHALK!!!
I would also like to get confident with dropping the weight. I worry about hitting my shins. Any tips on how to drop so shins don’t get hit? Or drop with confidence? I did try but… :-/
All advice is considered and taken with a grain of salt. 
Ha ha.
I like to think people want to be helpful though.
Nice pulling Charlie!!
Sorry if I missed it, but you’ve mentioned the wrists hurting a bit lately, anything specific that happened to them or just cranky wrists?
Being a skeptical consumer (of the info) is smart. You’ll figure out what works for you.
ok, I won’t offer thoughts anymore?
Just oohs and ahhs, and you GO GIRL.
or quietly lurking…that works too.
[quote]cholulalula wrote:
Nice pulling Charlie!!
Sorry if I missed it, but you’ve mentioned the wrists hurting a bit lately, anything specific that happened to them or just cranky wrists?
Being a skeptical consumer (of the info) is smart. You’ll figure out what works for you. [/quote]
I think general crankiness and not an injury. It needs some rest of something I guess.
[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
Just oohs and ahhs, and you GO GIRL.
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I find this works well from just about everyone Unless someone specifically requests feed back, the above is what I like to give particularly when it’s a mile stone that they are super excited to achieve.
For me, nothing takes the wind out of my sails like hitting a big mile stone and then thinking maybe depth wasn’t spot on or whatever. It’s a buzz kill. There are times for that like when someone asks for it.
Mile stones are for high fives and you go girls.
Yep - grip it, and rip it, Charlotte!
today - Shldrs
15 min SS cardio
weighted abz
warmups on DB & Machine
MP
Barx20
95 x 10
135 x 10
185 x 10 (how come so much?)
205 = fail (will upload vid tomorrow.
185 x 9-6 reps x 4 sets
hammer strenght seated 1 arm OH press
Tri - pushdowns
mebbe 2 PR’s in one week is too much to ask for?
oh well~
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
I would also like to get confident with dropping the weight. I worry about hitting my shins. Any tips on how to drop so shins don’t get hit? Or drop with confidence? I did try but… :-/
All advice is considered and taken with a grain of salt. Ha ha.
I like to think people want to be helpful though.
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ADVICE!
runs back while stumbling on a banana peel and going to the wedding cake
LOL
Are you using sumo stance or conventional for DL?
For me, I lower the weight slowly starting from the hips (think Romanian Deadlift) then as soon as the bar travels on the descend to my knees, I drop. If I was at Planet Fitness, they would label me a ‘lunk’ (someone who drops weights). I would argue with them that I am saving my hamstrings.
[quote]Kairiki wrote:
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
I would also like to get confident with dropping the weight. I worry about hitting my shins. Any tips on how to drop so shins don’t get hit? Or drop with confidence? I did try but… :-/
All advice is considered and taken with a grain of salt. Ha ha.
I like to think people want to be helpful though.
[/quote]
ADVICE!
runs back while stumbling on a banana peel and going to the wedding cake
LOL
Are you using sumo stance or conventional for DL?
For me, I lower the weight slowly starting from the hips (think Romanian Deadlift) then as soon as the bar travels on the descend to my knees, I drop. If I was at Planet Fitness, they would label me a ‘lunk’ (someone who drops weights). I would argue with them that I am saving my hamstrings.
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You don’t let go of the bar though do you?
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]Kairiki wrote:
[quote]Charlie Horse wrote:
I would also like to get confident with dropping the weight. I worry about hitting my shins. Any tips on how to drop so shins don’t get hit? Or drop with confidence? I did try but… :-/
All advice is considered and taken with a grain of salt. Ha ha.
I like to think people want to be helpful though.
[/quote]
ADVICE!
runs back while stumbling on a banana peel and going to the wedding cake
LOL
Are you using sumo stance or conventional for DL?
For me, I lower the weight slowly starting from the hips (think Romanian Deadlift) then as soon as the bar travels on the descend to my knees, I drop. If I was at Planet Fitness, they would label me a ‘lunk’ (someone who drops weights). I would argue with them that I am saving my hamstrings.
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You don’t let go of the bar though do you?[/quote]
Yes, I do…
^^I don’t understand this. ^^
I know a lot of people advise lowering the bar to the knees and then dropping it. But I don’t see any benefit to this. It’s a lot of work to lower the bar back to the knees. I lock out and then do a controlled drop from the top, never letting go of the bar. This uses the least amount of energy but doesn’t violate platform requirements.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
^^I don’t understand this. ^^
I know a lot of people advise lowering the bar to the knees and then dropping it. But I don’t see any benefit to this. It’s a lot of work to lower the bar back to the knees. I lock out and then do a controlled drop from the top, never letting go of the bar. This uses the least amount of energy but doesn’t violate platform requirements.[/quote]
Sure…check out page 28 of this thread and the vid I posted on “Dropping The Deadlift”…