I wanted to try out an ECA stack for the first time in my training life, diet alone is just not cutting it at the moment after a 2-3 months of extremely disrupted schedules due to travel, work, and minor injuries.
Does anyone have a good source for Ephedrine supplements that can be shipped to the US? I know that Dubya and the renewed focus on meth production has made it a lot harder than it was a few years ago to come across it.
Edit: I live in Mississippi, where Ephedrine and Pseudoephedrine are both considered to be Schedule III drugs and nothing containing them can be bought without a prescription. As a side-effect, my DL cannot be used in any state to get Bronkaid/Primatine without said prescription.
You can buy ephedrine hcl at any drugstore for like $12. Bronkaid and primatine are the brands. You have to show your DL to get it and only buy 1 box at a time.
Aspirin and caffeine are readily available. You can thin your blood with fish oil instead of aspirin. Get a cheap blood pressure cuff. Some people are sensitive to the combo and you wonāt know without testing. Keep BP under 120/80.
I should have mentionedā¦ I live in Mississippi, no medicines containing ANY sort of ephedrine or pseudoephedrine can be purchased without a prescription. Theyāre considered to be Schedule III drugs by the state.
As a consequence, I canāt use my DL to purchase them ANYWHERE. Iāll edit my original post to note that.
What do you currently weigh? Whatās your training and diet like?
Last April, you were 260 and measured āwaist: 44" (below gut)ā, which means it even wider around the gut. What kind of progress have you made in the last 10 months?
Like JFG said, ECA isnāt magic. If youāve had 2-3 months of subpar training and diet and take ECA, then youāre still dealing with 2-3 months of subpar training and diet.
Nevermind the fact that this isnāt a source board and posts that try directing you to get illegal drugs arenāt going to be posted.
@Chris_Colucci - Fair enough, one more reason for me to get the hell out of the South.
Iām up to 270 at the moment, but the waist was down to 43" last time I looked. At least part of that loss came at a point when I wasnāt eating enough with how busy I was (<1500 cals regularly for 2-ish weeks) because my diet can swing bad both ways when things are crazy.
When Iām āregularā, Iām eating 2300-2500 calories per day and science (plus a year of Fitbit step/distance tracking) suggests that I burn about 3000 calories per day. Despite this, losses are hard and easily undone and have been ever since I got serious about training. Tweaking macros, amounts, etc. hasnāt done much to change either of those two facts, and any body comp changes Iāve made in that time (and itās been significant) have always been based around diets on the extreme side of the spectrum (old V-Diet, PSMF) for the cutting portions.
Currently I take Hot Rox pre-workout with 1 scoop of Mag 10, and sip 2 scoops of Plazma with my workout, first thing in the morning. When I workout, I target high heart rate and keeping my breathing controlled, my sweat smells fairly strongly of ketones afterwards and Iāll still fight for 1 lb.
Really, I was just curious to see what effect ECA would have, compared to the Hot Rox, considering the evidence points to my gene/hormone profile not being great at fat loss. Itās been slightly annoying to have to go PSMF or V-Diet just to get somewhere.
I actually donāt lose weight with a ānormalā deficit after the first month or so. Iāve tried calorie/carb cycling, fasting, ketoā¦ most everything. I just stall. Maybe my ancestors were terrible hunter gatherers and really efficient at not starving to death.
What does work for me is PSMF like Lysle McDās RFL diet (or T-NATIONS velocity diet). I lose 10-15 lbs in a month and then find a new maintenance level of calories for a while. I try to push as high as I can and not gain more than water back. Once I get all my strength back and feel mentally recovered Iāll plan another PSMF. I will get flamed for offering this advice, but thatās what actually works for me.
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Iām up to 270 at the moment
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Okay, so your body is almost certainly in full-blown panic mode due to calorie restriction. Like I said, you need to fix your overall approach, not jump right into serious pharmaceuticals and supplements. This article has some guidelines for sorting it out.
I suggest starting another thread that lays out your current training and diet so the gang can look it over and give more specific input.
Sorting out your hormones/T issues is definitely something to work on but, again, I think a lot can be done by dialing the diet and training.
Donāt do this, and donāt use an ECA stack. Your diet is clearly a total mess if youāre eating 2500 calories per day and maintaining a 270lbs bodyweight. Seriously man, the sort of difference either of these products will make on you, at this point, will be negligible.
Think about it this way. Iām sure you donāt believe that ECA alone will help you lose more than, say, 20 lbs on the very highest end. So letās say that happens. Then what? Where do you go from there? You gonna stay on ECA for life? Thatās a terrible idea. And you also wonāt be in a position to lose anymore weight, because youāll have already exhausted your strongest option.
Please, please, PLEASE take your diet more seriously.
If you want to figure out exactly where your dietary problems are, I would suggest posting every single thing you eat and drink in a thread for about a week. And eat the way you normally do, donāt try to make it look good for us. Thatās the best way to figure out where your problems are.