[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I think natural bodybuilding is a healthy practice to increase longevity.
Key word is natural.
Anyways, I’d rather be basking in my glory as a young 20 something with women lusting over my body and guys wishing they could be me than worry if every last thing I do will affect whether I’ll live until 87 or 90.
You can die tomorrow no matter how old you are. Get what you want now.[/quote]
Nothing to see here…
LOL at “guys wishing they could be me”.
Wow. If I had written that, we would be on page 15 by now.
[quote]red04 wrote:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I think natural bodybuilding is a healthy practice to increase longevity.
Key word is natural.
Anyways, I’d rather be basking in my glory as a young 20 something with women lusting over my body and guys wishing they could be me than worry if every last thing I do will affect whether I’ll live until 87 or 90.
You can die tomorrow no matter how old you are. Get what you want now.[/quote]
I know the internet isn’t all about perfect english/grammar, but sometimes a word is just really out of place =p(pretty sure you meant lusting, or longing, or some word that is the exact opposite of loathing, I got your back bro).[/quote]
Good looks brother, no edit my post in your post and we’ll be set.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
LOL at “guys wishing they could be me”.
Wow. If I had written that, we would be on page 15 by now.[/quote]
Can I be PX? Let me wear your skin, bro.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
LOL at “guys wishing they could be me”.
Wow. If I had written that, we would be on page 15 by now.[/quote]
Can I be PX? Let me wear your skin, bro. [/quote]
Well if that is you in your avatar(color me skeptical, but I’ll believe it for now), than I guess it’s a fair request.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I think natural bodybuilding is a healthy practice to increase longevity.
Key word is natural.
Anyways, I’d rather be basking in my glory as a young 20 something with women lusting over my body and guys wishing they could be me than worry if every last thing I do will affect whether I’ll live until 87 or 90.
You can die tomorrow no matter how old you are. Get what you want now.[/quote]
You say that now but might change your tune when you get older and your priorities undoubtedly change.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I think natural bodybuilding is a healthy practice to increase longevity.
Key word is natural.
Anyways, I’d rather be basking in my glory as a young 20 something with women lusting over my body and guys wishing they could be me than worry if every last thing I do will affect whether I’ll live until 87 or 90.
You can die tomorrow no matter how old you are. Get what you want now.[/quote]
You say that now but might change your tune when you get older and your priorities undoubtedly change.[/quote]
Says the guy with new baby, new wife, and newly mid-20’s.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I think natural bodybuilding is a healthy practice to increase longevity.
Key word is natural.
Anyways, I’d rather be basking in my glory as a young 20 something with women lusting over my body and guys wishing they could be me than worry if every last thing I do will affect whether I’ll live until 87 or 90.
You can die tomorrow no matter how old you are. Get what you want now.[/quote]
You say that now but might change your tune when you get older and your priorities undoubtedly change.[/quote]
My point was missed. If you aren’t going after your goals now, what are you doing?
I’m not going to speculate over what is going to increase my life span by a year and make decisions based off of that.
Simple
-Don’t smoke
-Don’t binge drink
-Don’t eat foods high in trans fats
-Regularly exercise
-Be responsible with your money
-Do an activity that makes you happy
If you’re not hit by a bus tomorrow you’ll probably live a long and happy life.
what’s the difference between nattie and PED assisted training? I agree that natural are obviously going to be less big/strong as the assisted ones, but the actual training doesn’t look much different to me. It looks like Phil Heath and I do a similar routine 2x a week.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I think natural bodybuilding is a healthy practice to increase longevity.
Key word is natural.
Anyways, I’d rather be basking in my glory as a young 20 something with women lusting over my body and guys wishing they could be me than worry if every last thing I do will affect whether I’ll live until 87 or 90.
You can die tomorrow no matter how old you are. Get what you want now.[/quote]
You say that now but might change your tune when you get older and your priorities undoubtedly change.[/quote]
Says the guy with new baby, new wife, and newly mid-20’s.[/quote]
Not correct on the age portion but the rest is true which is why I know that priorities change.
At 16-24 you might not care about your quality of life when you’re 80 but when you get a little older and start a family you start thinking about wanting to be healthy and active when you’re old.
I know that I’ll want to be able to play catch and run around with my grand/great grand kids some day.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
what’s the difference between nattie and PED assisted training? I agree that natural are obviously going to be less big/strong as the assisted ones, but the actual training doesn’t look much different to me. It looks like Phil Heath and I do a similar routine 2x a week.
Umm besides the ability to have increased workloads, exercises and the rules to getting big and strong are the same assisted vs natty, one person will just have an amplified response to the training stimulus.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I think natural bodybuilding is a healthy practice to increase longevity.
Key word is natural.
Anyways, I’d rather be basking in my glory as a young 20 something with women lusting over my body and guys wishing they could be me than worry if every last thing I do will affect whether I’ll live until 87 or 90.
You can die tomorrow no matter how old you are. Get what you want now.[/quote]
You say that now but might change your tune when you get older and your priorities undoubtedly change.[/quote]
My point was missed. If you aren’t going after your goals now, what are you doing?
I’m not going to speculate over what is going to increase my life span by a year and make decisions based off of that.
Simple
-Don’t smoke
-Don’t binge drink
-Don’t eat foods high in trans fats
-Regularly exercise
-Be responsible with your money
-Do an activity that makes you happy
If you’re not hit by a bus tomorrow you’ll probably live a long and happy life.
[/quote]
Oh I agree with the sentiment of what you’re saying, I just commented on the not caring about what your life will be like at 80-90 or whatever it was.
[quote]gregron:
I know that I’ll want to be able to play catch and run around with my grand/great grand kids some day.[/quote]
Unless the outside temp rises to unbearable 120+ degrees in mid-USA due to overconsumption and the air is difficult to breath due to pollution and airborne bacterial strains after the collapse of civilization due to financial destruction.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Umm besides the ability to have increased workloads, exercises and the rules to getting big and strong are the same assisted vs natty, one person will just have an amplified response to the training stimulus.[/quote]
Gee, which is why like I stated, you base action on results…not what “shoulda coulda woulda” happened.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
what’s the difference between nattie and PED assisted training? I agree that natural are obviously going to be less big/strong as the assisted ones, but the actual training doesn’t look much different to me. It looks like Phil Heath and I do a similar routine 2x a week.
Umm besides the ability to have increased workloads, exercises and the rules to getting big and strong are the same assisted vs natty, one person will just have an amplified response to the training stimulus.[/quote]
ok, I guess I just don’t see the difference in training volume/frequency between successful natural and assisted lifters. The only difference I’ve seen are obviously the size/strength gains move up more when assisted
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
. The only difference I’ve seen are obviously the size/strength gains move up more when assisted[/quote]
That is all there is. It isn’t like steroids suddenly make the guy who trains 4 days a week be able to train all day everyday.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]gregron:
I know that I’ll want to be able to play catch and run around with my grand/great grand kids some day.[/quote]
Unless the outside temp rises to unbearable 120+ degrees in mid-USA due to overconsumption and the air is difficult to breath due to pollution and airborne bacterial strains after the collapse of civilization due to financial destruction.[/quote]
Or zombies man… Or zombies.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Umm besides the ability to have increased workloads, exercises and the rules to getting big and strong are the same assisted vs natty, one person will just have an amplified response to the training stimulus.[/quote]
Gee, which is why like I stated, you base action on results…not what “shoulda coulda woulda” happened.[/quote]
I do think dieting definitely needs to be approached differently natty vs assisted, as someone natural has a much greater chance of letting their hormones tank while assisted they can stay the same or you can actually up the dose so to speak so that you can gain muscle and get leaner going into a show.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Umm besides the ability to have increased workloads, exercises and the rules to getting big and strong are the same assisted vs natty, one person will just have an amplified response to the training stimulus.[/quote]
Gee, which is why like I stated, you base action on results…not what “shoulda coulda woulda” happened.[/quote]
I do think dieting definitely needs to be approached differently natty vs assisted, as someone natural has a much greater chance of letting their hormones tank while assisted they can stay the same or you can actually up the dose so to speak so that you can gain muscle and get leaner going into a show.[/quote]
You may be able to drop calories more, but again, GENETICS are king here. Guys with fast metabolisms have fast metabolisms on steroids.
For ANYONE trying to lose in excess of 50lbs or more is going to mean some muscle loss usually without a lot of “help”.
Either way, these are assumptions. the reality is, making some “card board cut out” response to natty vs assisted training is retarded if your goal is max progress.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
ok, I guess I just don’t see the difference in training volume/frequency between successful natural and assisted lifters. The only difference I’ve seen are obviously the size/strength gains move up more when assisted[/quote]
It all comes down to the individual, but your recovery will be so much better when enhanced that you can handle larger volumes of workload and still make a lot of progress.
Like you have to compare someone that was natural then went on. It’s individual differences that make enhancement visible.
You can’t compare two different people because everyone is different. Some people handle high loads of volume while others have success with lower loads and more frequency.