Eat Like the Pros

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[quote]BlakeAJackson wrote:
Here is a decent video of some of the top body builders talking nutrition. Ignore the shameless product plugs and it may help some people who are having problems gaining weight or who are just starting out.

http://www.dailymotion.com/popular/Tech9/video/xm8ex_eat-like-the-pros_sport

I was sent this video by a friend with whom I have been discussing my own future goals.

This is Jay at the grocery store.
http://www.dailymotion.com/popular/Tech9/video/x15q1q_jay-cutler-at-the-grocery-store_sport[/quote]

And… what? Eat like the pros and look like one? Bollocks. 99% of the people here couldn’t look like a pro with twice the calories and twice the training, sleep or drugs they have.
Not ANYONE can do this, of the few that have the genetics, and i mean few, only a percentage of those have the disclipline and drive there to put those genes into a position where they may evole the person to look like coleman/Jay/Nasser/jackson whatever…

I think it ridicules the sport and our own endeavours to suggest ANYONE can achieve this level - this aint the presidency you know?! Even many of out best competing bodybuilders on this site have no chance of being a top level pro… pro’s i am sure some may be able, moody and prisoner i have alot of faith in, but many of us could never reach their level either! Could you Blake?! ;/

Joe

(PREAaaach!)

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I liked the simplicity of Jay cutlers shopping. It made me eager to stock up on more flesh for the freezer!

It might be a bit old fashioned and even politically incorrect among some people but the simple idea of basing a bodybuilding diet around the disciplined consumption of many pounds of meat and fish everyday works great for building a lean and muscular body.

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[quote]anonym wrote:
Dirty_Bulk wrote:
This is very true. I see a lot of people who weigh 175 pounds taking in really huge amounts of calories and protein. I always wonder what they plan to be eating when they weigh 225 pounds.

? I’m sure they plan on eating even more when they get to 225 pounds.

You eat however much it takes to continue to put on weight. Some people simply need a shitload of calories.[/quote]

Agreed. Why would someone eat less if they weren’t growing from it?

I eat a lot. It takes a lot for me to just maintain my body weight, let alone GAIN weight.

You eat how you need to eat to see progress, not in ways that are simply convenient.

This isn’t an activity of “convenience”.

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[quote]Heliotrope wrote:
I liked the simplicity of Jay cutlers shopping. It made me eager to stock up on more flesh for the freezer!

It might be a bit old fashioned and even politically incorrect among some people but the simple idea of basing a bodybuilding diet around the disciplined consumption of many pounds of meat and fish everyday works great for building a lean and muscular body.

[/quote]

You have to build the muscle first before you worry about how lean it is in priority.

As far as what you wrote about many pounds of meat, I agree.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
anonym wrote:
Dirty_Bulk wrote:
This is very true. I see a lot of people who weigh 175 pounds taking in really huge amounts of calories and protein. I always wonder what they plan to be eating when they weigh 225 pounds.

? I’m sure they plan on eating even more when they get to 225 pounds.

You eat however much it takes to continue to put on weight. Some people simply need a shitload of calories.

Agreed. Why would someone eat less if they weren’t growing from it?

I eat a lot. It takes a lot for me to just maintain my body weight, let alone GAIN weight.

You eat how you need to eat to see progress, not in ways that are simply convenient.

This isn’t an activity of “convenience”.[/quote]

Absolutely, when i finally realised the amount i needed to eat to gain - after many years of THINKING i was eating enough and thinking i was a… yep! Hard Gainer, i was stunned at the amount i could put away, and then wake up hungry for more!! lol! Honestly, eating like i do - if i didnt train my bollocks off, i would be one fat motherfucker!!

Also, something that i realised a while back now - but that the people around me know also. Is unless i am on a sloppy bulk, dont eat for pleasure mainly, it is for the Macro breakdown, the GI, the Time of day, the sugar, the protein etc… I mean why would i CHOOSE a dry chicken breast straight after training? Because i ran out of Powder, because it is low fat, high protein, or because it is mm-mmm TASTY!!? hehe.

Not Convenience. Necessity.

Joe

Joe

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not a whole lot there that hasnt been said a hundred thousand times

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Heliotrope wrote:
I liked the simplicity of Jay cutlers shopping. It made me eager to stock up on more flesh for the freezer!

It might be a bit old fashioned and even politically incorrect among some people but the simple idea of basing a bodybuilding diet around the disciplined consumption of many pounds of meat and fish everyday works great for building a lean and muscular body.

You have to build the muscle first before you worry about how lean it is in priority.

As far as what you wrote about many pounds of meat, I agree.[/quote]

True. The muscular part definitely has to come first.

That said when its time to lean down I much prefer a super high meat and lower everything else type diet to get lean and preserve my muscle and metabolism.

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Could you link up where you found the pros cycle please?

3g of test seems pretty incredible, especially if you consider their other compounds.

cunt.

I think the original idea was eat big to get big.

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[quote]anonym wrote:
Dirty_Bulk wrote:
This is very true. I see a lot of people who weigh 175 pounds taking in really huge amounts of calories and protein. I always wonder what they plan to be eating when they weigh 225 pounds.

? I’m sure they plan on eating even more when they get to 225 pounds.

You eat however much it takes to continue to put on weight. Some people simply need a shitload of calories.[/quote]

But some people don’t. Don’t eat like the pros. Eat what YOU need to in order to make steady gains. It’s really common sense Common sense that sadly seems to be lacking in many. Some guys hear they need to eat big and inhale everything in sight and put on way more fat than muslce. Others hear they need to eat big but inexplicably still eat like a 15-yr old cheerleader and wonder why they’re not growing.

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
anonym wrote:
Dirty_Bulk wrote:
This is very true. I see a lot of people who weigh 175 pounds taking in really huge amounts of calories and protein. I always wonder what they plan to be eating when they weigh 225 pounds.

? I’m sure they plan on eating even more when they get to 225 pounds.

You eat however much it takes to continue to put on weight. Some people simply need a shitload of calories.

But some people don’t. Don’t eat like the pros. Eat what YOU need to in order to make steady gains. It’s really common sense Common sense that sadly seems to be lacking in many. Some guys hear they need to eat big and inhale everything in sight and put on way more fat than muslce. Others hear they need to eat big but inexplicably still eat like a 15-yr old cheerleader and wonder why they’re not growing.[/quote]

I honestly think that if they can’t figure that out on their own, this may not be the activity for them to be involved in.

No one had to tell me this, even as a rank newbie.

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What a mainstream pile of crap.

What I liked about the video (from a sarcastic perspective) was when they were talking about getting a good breakfast. One of them mentioned ‘Egg Whites’, then I think Jay Cutler said ‘oh and even whole eggs for beginners’ - or something along those lines.

Wow - that’s pretty hardcore, whole eggs, but obviously only for beginners, otherwise they are bad, bad, bad. Unlike steroids, naturally. So, you need to be careful with whole eggs, but mcdonalds is ok. Ah - now I get it.

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
anonym wrote:
Dirty_Bulk wrote:
This is very true. I see a lot of people who weigh 175 pounds taking in really huge amounts of calories and protein. I always wonder what they plan to be eating when they weigh 225 pounds.

? I’m sure they plan on eating even more when they get to 225 pounds.

You eat however much it takes to continue to put on weight. Some people simply need a shitload of calories.

But some people don’t. Don’t eat like the pros. Eat what YOU need to in order to make steady gains. It’s really common sense Common sense that sadly seems to be lacking in many. Some guys hear they need to eat big and inhale everything in sight and put on way more fat than muslce. Others hear they need to eat big but inexplicably still eat like a 15-yr old cheerleader and wonder why they’re not growing.[/quote]

The thing is though JS, if you listen to what they say in that first video (beyond the product endorsements), they aren’t telling people to just throw caution to the wind or eat the same number of calories that they are. Their advice is solid, regardless of if someone is a beginner or aspiring pro.

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[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:

Also, something that i realised a while back now - but that the people around me know also. Is unless i am on a sloppy bulk, dont eat for pleasure mainly, it is for the Macro breakdown, the GI, the Time of day, the sugar, the protein etc… I mean why would i CHOOSE a dry chicken breast straight after training? Because i ran out of Powder, because it is low fat, high protein, or because it is mm-mmm TASTY!!? hehe.

Not Convenience. Necessity.

Joe

Joe[/quote]

I’m sorry, but does this make sense to anyone?

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I’m sorry, but does this make sense to anyone?[/quote]

Erm, does he like chicken maybe?

I am also confused.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Joe Joseph wrote:

Also, something that i realised a while back now - but that the people around me know also. Is unless i am on a sloppy bulk, dont eat for pleasure mainly, it is for the Macro breakdown, the GI, the Time of day, the sugar, the protein etc… I mean why would i CHOOSE a dry chicken breast straight after training? Because i ran out of Powder, because it is low fat, high protein, or because it is mm-mmm TASTY!!? hehe.

Not Convenience. Necessity.

Joe

Joe

I’m sorry, but does this make sense to anyone?[/quote]

Nope! Here…

Also, something that i realised a while back now is that unless i am on a sloppy bulk, i dont eat for pleasure particularly - it is for the Protein and carb profile in that particular food, the GI it has, the Time of day it is eaten, the sugar in it, the protein etc… I mean why would i knowingly CHOOSE a dry, plain Chicken Breast? It isnt because it is delicious by any stretch of the imagination, it is simply because of the protein, fat and carb content.

Not convenience, Necessity.

Better? Sorry, i dont think i was paying attention.

Joe

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edit: beat me to it, Joe.

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[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:

And… what? Eat like the pros and look like one? Bollocks. 99% of the people here couldn’t look like a pro with twice the calories and twice the training, sleep or drugs they have.
Not ANYONE can do this, of the few that have the genetics, and i mean few, only a percentage of those have the disclipline and drive there to put those genes into a position where they may evole the person to look like coleman/Jay/Nasser/jackson whatever…

I think it ridicules the sport and our own endeavours to suggest ANYONE can achieve this level - this aint the presidency you know?! Even many of out best competing bodybuilders on this site have no chance of being a top level pro… pro’s i am sure some may be able, moody and prisoner i have alot of faith in, but many of us could never reach their level either! Could you Blake?! ;/

Joe

(PREAaaach!)[/quote]

Did I say anything about eat like this and you will look like the pro? You are an ass.

It was the title of the video segment!

I thought that some people would take some interesting perspective from some of the things said. That is all. I personally will be utilizing the idea of 4 days on my bulking diet and then having two meals on the 5th day that are what I want. I am currently working towards leaning out, and would like to make gains while not putting back on gobs of fat. The last time I bulked I went from 205 -225 and my strength and size increases where there, but so was my growing gut. I believe that much of that was due to food choices. It is very difficult and time consuming to prepare enough food to consume 4000-5000 cal a day and equally hard to ingest it form all clean food sources. However doing so will no doubt result in a better end physic then if I did it consuming 4000-5000 calories eating crap like fast food. 12 chicken breasts a day is only 2400 cal aprox., add eating a head of broccoli or a bag of spinach and it is not going to get you up to 4000-5000 either. Eating like the pros would be more of a challenge than most realize and I think that often people have not looked a calorie content or protein and actually know what amounts of those things they are consuming.

I am learning much of this at the moment and there is not a doubt in my mind that in 6 month I will be bigger and strong than I am now. I will never look like a Jay Cutler or Ronnie Colman as I am not able to afford their groceries, drugs, or training schedule.

Ask yourself why you took this as an opportunity to attack a complete stranger?

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

The thing is though JS, if you listen to what they say in that first video (beyond the product endorsements), they aren’t telling people to just throw caution to the wind or eat the same number of calories that they are. Their advice is solid, regardless of if someone is a beginner or aspiring pro.[/quote]

Thanks that is the type of thing I heard as well and was the reason I posted it.

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[quote]Himora22 wrote:
not a whole lot there that hasnt been said a hundred thousand times[/quote]

I agree. However, and maybe I am alone on this but due to much of the current activity on this site and with the addition of the T-Cell Alpha it is apparent that we a have some credibility issues among many users and their handing out experience and advice. There are many people on here that have tons of knowledge and also have credibility and I hope that most are able to identify those individuals.

At least this showed people who had credibility restate for anyone who is listening to all the ass hats what is correct or Common Sense as some have put it.

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[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:

Nope! Here…

Also, something that i realised a while back now is that unless i am on a sloppy bulk, i dont eat for pleasure particularly - it is for the Protein and carb profile in that particular food, the GI it has, the Time of day it is eaten, the sugar in it, the protein etc… I mean why would i knowingly CHOOSE a dry, plain Chicken Breast? It isnt because it is delicious by any stretch of the imagination, it is simply because of the protein, fat and carb content.

Not convenience, Necessity.

Better? Sorry, i dont think i was paying attention.

Joe[/quote]

This is what I got from the video as well. I have to give you props on your own endeavors you look solid.