Could be.
Sorry, I meant high E2, not low E2. I thought high E2 but my fingers wrote low E2. I think I needed some coffee that day lol. I was re-reading the thread and just saw the mistake.
But just to swing back to the original question - anyone ever experience lack of sensitivity/difficulty reaching orgasm with HIGH e2 rather than low?
Either way, I’m going no AI for a few weeks to see how I feel. Go solely off of symptoms to learn before I keep chasing numbers up and down.
I experience that with both high E2 and low E2
I would be doing my best to ditch the AI, its probably causing your issues. Get on a dose where you can manage e2 without, or with minimal things like broccoli or warm lemon water.
The AI is trash. You don’t need it
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Do you think DIM can give the same side effects as a A.I
It can lower your e2, sometimes drastically.
But it doesn’t work the same.
ok thanks
@e306 so have you fixed the problem? Give us an update.
Yes. It luckily was very transient. I really have kept the AI to a minimum (.025mg once per week at most). My libido is great and I have no problem having sex more than once a day for days at a time. Still thinking that I may be over medicated though. Night sweats, acne, intermittent morning wood, etc. I’m not complaining as I feel great and better than I ever have both in the gym and in the bedroom. However, I know my e2 is up there and don’t love some of the minor symptoms. Rather than keep fucking with adex, I feel like my next smart move is to move down from 150mg/week (50mg m/w/f). The i my reason. I haven’t is that I’m terrified of two things: losing (or stalling) my gains in the gym and becoming a maniac with the dose change (I’ve had this happen in the past). My logical brain tells me that going down to 120mg/week with no AI is probably the right thing to do, but just afraid to make the move. @hrdlvn @charlie12 @highpull @hardartery @systemlord @alphagunner would love your input on the move and what kind of craziness to expect.
At this stage, the only other weird intermittent thing I have going on is semen volume. Not that it matters. Done with kids and wife doesn’t care (but we certainly laugh about it). It’s ridiculously small and then I had a wave of it being ridiculously huge and now back to minuscule again. No idea if this is e2 related or not…
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You have to weigh how well you are feeling against the side effects and determine if estradiol levels are the result. I don’t see that it would hurt to try, you could always go back to your current dose. Keep in mind this comes from a guy who takes 200mg once a week with no AI.
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And where does your TT and E2 sit at that level?
And this is why I’m worried about moving. So much is so great. I’ve been working out for 25 years and at 40 I’ve mad here best gains if my life, finally. I’ve been able to have sex with my wife and then 15 minutes later go again and both orgasm. I was never that guy except when I was like 17. I feel brand new in so many ways. But also always wonder if I could be optimized/safer…
This is an interesting observation. This happens to me and at least 2 others I’ve read about here. @NH_Watts and @alldayeveryday have reported similar occurrences with low volume likely in the presence of elevated E2.
I’m in a similar boat, feel really good for the most part. Taking 40-44mg EOD and have TT of 1192 and E2 sensitive of 41.
I can’t decide if I want to reduce my dose…still on the fence.
Let us know what you do, interested to hear how it goes.
900-920 and 50-55
And I haven’t retested yet since defy moved me to 150mg split 3x week. But at 160mg split 2x week I was 1300 and 65. Didn’t really have symptoms then but I do worry from some of what I’ve read about prostate cancer risk etc but perhaps that’s antiquated thinking and more about ratio than absolute numbers.
When i once went down to 140mg/week I went down to 750 and 50 and felt worse. Hence why I’m a bit concerned about dropping too low.
Also, defy thinks I’m an AI over responder. I was previously on Clomid monotherapy 35mg 3x week and 0.1mg adex 1x week and that put my E2 at 17-20. They said that comparatively, an AI would be much more needed with Clomid than TC. And that was a low e2 level for such a tiny dose of adex.
And to be clear - orgasms are actually more intense. So it’s not like less volume equates to less pleasure. But it’s really tiny at times.
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What did you read about prostate cancer that alarmed you?
Mostly mentions in forums and articles like this. I have not researched it deeply by any means. Just something that’s popped up along the way.
I think that’s old info. They use testosterone to test prostate cancer in some cases.
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