[quote]Cthulhu wrote:
Have you ever tried green tea with your EC stack?
Dandalex wrote:
The aspirin was dropped after clinical studies showed no benefits of ECA vs EC in most populations except for obese women.
Therefore, if you are not an obese woman, aspirin provides no benefits for weightloss. The theory was cool, it just didn’t do anything in real life.
However, 100 mg of aspirin at bedtime (not in the morning) can reduce blood pressure by 7mmHG/5mmHg, which is pretty good. (Just because EC can transiently increase BP during the first few weeks). Asprin, is there something it won’t do!
Hope this helps.
AlexH
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The question is, when have you not used green tea.
Green tea does have through its polyphenols inhibitory effects on catecholamine-O-methyl-transferase inhibitor therefore blocking degradation of NA, resulting in a longer effects at the level of the synapse.
Would work, but any effect would probably just be negated by spreading a half a dose over the course of the day.
We would need something that works through another mecanism of action.
Overall, green tea should be a staple for a host of reason, including its negligeable effect on pharmacokinetics of ephedrine.
See ya,
AlexH
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=935587&pageNo=0
There is a lot of ECA info and suchlike from Cy Willson in this thread.
Answers some of the Q’s here too.
Interesting stuff, Alex H.
[quote]X-Factor wrote:
Ok, so I have just purchased some ephedrine hcl in my body recomp endeavours. I have been taking 200mg of caffeine before cardio for a while, so there is NO problem with that. I have 8 mg tabs of ephedrine hcl, what should I dose at? First dose will be an hour before early morning cardio on an empty stomach followed by an hour sleep then and hours cardio. So any thoughts? Also is there anything that ephedrine does’nt mix with that I should know about and any tips?[/quote]
Do you have Ephedra or Ephedrine? There’s a difference. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Ephedrine HCL sold for anything less than 12.5mg but I haven’t looked in to too many products as I only buy one of three.
Ephedra is the herbal form and usually has several alkaloids that may increase side effects. Ephedrine HCL is the synthetic that for most seems to be cleaner as far as feeling “it” goes. But you’re doing the smart thing in using the lowest dosage that you can at first.
Very interesting.
Whenever I’d see a lot of the diet pills that had ephedrine in them,they usually had green tea,but not enough. [quote]Dandalex wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
Have you ever tried green tea with your EC stack?
Dandalex wrote:
The aspirin was dropped after clinical studies showed no benefits of ECA vs EC in most populations except for obese women.
Therefore, if you are not an obese woman, aspirin provides no benefits for weightloss. The theory was cool, it just didn’t do anything in real life.
However, 100 mg of aspirin at bedtime (not in the morning) can reduce blood pressure by 7mmHG/5mmHg, which is pretty good. (Just because EC can transiently increase BP during the first few weeks). Asprin, is there something it won’t do!
Hope this helps.
AlexH
The question is, when have you not used green tea.
Green tea does have through its polyphenols inhibitory effects on catecholamine-O-methyl-transferase inhibitor therefore blocking degradation of NA, resulting in a longer effects at the level of the synapse.
Would work, but any effect would probably just be negated by spreading a half a dose over the course of the day.
We would need something that works through another mecanism of action.
Overall, green tea should be a staple for a host of reason, including its negligeable effect on pharmacokinetics of ephedrine.
See ya,
AlexH[/quote]
[quote]big69penisman wrote:
X-Factor wrote:
Ok, so I have just purchased some ephedrine hcl in my body recomp endeavours. I have been taking 200mg of caffeine before cardio for a while, so there is NO problem with that. I have 8 mg tabs of ephedrine hcl, what should I dose at? First dose will be an hour before early morning cardio on an empty stomach followed by an hour sleep then and hours cardio. So any thoughts? Also is there anything that ephedrine does’nt mix with that I should know about and any tips?
Do you have Ephedra or Ephedrine? There’s a difference. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Ephedrine HCL sold for anything less than 12.5mg but I haven’t looked in to too many products as I only buy one of three.
Ephedra is the herbal form and usually has several alkaloids that may increase side effects. Ephedrine HCL is the synthetic that for most seems to be cleaner as far as feeling “it” goes. But you’re doing the smart thing in using the lowest dosage that you can at first. [/quote]
Yea it’s 8mg tabs of Ephedrine HCL, it’s from Allmax nutrition and from canada also, maybe diff dosing regulations.
So, it seems for the first few days I’ll keep it at 8/200, then up that to 2x a day, keep that for a week, and possibly go 16/200 2x a day if i’m feeling ok. What have you guys found to give you the best results? As far as amount and times a day. And should I avoid it later in the evening?