So Im going to start going to a gym with bumper plates and a platform, giving me the option to drop plates. Anyone drop their deadlifts? Any benefit or negatives to just dropping deadlifts? The only benefit I see is how my negative form seems to deteriate on high rep sets.
I drop my deadlifts but dont let them free fall, and usually only on the top set, to me the negative portion of the deadlift can be good, but for powerlifting purposes I would say that it is wasted energy. Again I wouldn’t let them free fall but a controlled drop should be fine.
Be careful with this in meets. I’ve gotten reds for dropping the bar when my hands never left it. Not the right call in my mind, but I’ve had it happen.
agree with Burt128…some judges demand that you demonstrate a control of the weight at all times…I also agree that the negative portion of the deadlift should not receive any attention. I actually feel more vulnerable trying to gently lower the weight than I do lifting it.
I def agree on the keeping it under control during meets. I’ve only been to one meet and we had to keep the weight under control. It could be put down loudly, but still under control. And as a meet draws near, I make sure to train like a meet, with pauses at the right times, etc.
For example, right now, on my benching, I just touch and go. However, as my next meet draws near (end of May) I’ll start pausing at the bottom, even waiting for my spotter to say ‘press’.
Kinda the same theory for the deadlift with dropping it. Like I said, my concern is injury. With sets above five reps, my negatives tend to essentially fall apart…if the negatives offer some useful benefits to strength gains, definitely want them in there…just gotta be careful…if not…yeah haha
I own my own bars and would be pissed off if the guys drop my deadlift bar when they pull. Put it down. You don’t have to take forever, but keep it under some control.
If it slips, whatever. but unless it’s 800 or something like Storm pulls, keep it under some control.
[quote]unstable wrote:
agree with Burt128…some judges demand that you demonstrate a control of the weight at all times…I also agree that the negative portion of the deadlift should not receive any attention. I actually feel more vulnerable trying to gently lower the weight than I do lifting it.[/quote]
Me too, after lockout i punch my hips back and when my knees are out of the way i drop the bar pretty quickly. Its not a free fall. But it smacks the floor.
[quote]burt128 wrote:
Be careful with this in meets. I’ve gotten reds for dropping the bar when my hands never left it. Not the right call in my mind, but I’ve had it happen.[/quote]
What fed? I saw a couple people lower the bar real slow at an IPA meet I did which seemed really weird to me. I’m just wondering what feds actually require that.
Watch some of the world record DLs, if they can slow the fall so can you. To the average gym member it may look/sound like dropping weight but that heavy you can’t set it down gently. To me dropping is completely letting go of the bar at top position which I don’t see any reason to do unless you lost the grip or something.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Watch some of the world record DLs, if they can slow the fall so can you. To the average gym member it may look/sound like dropping weight but that heavy you can’t set it down gently. To me dropping is completely letting go of the bar at top position which I don’t see any reason to do unless you lost the grip or something.[/quote]
Agreed. I just never understood the reason of dropping the weight. I saw in back in high school in football and I see it now in the gym. If you can pull it up, Im pretty sure you can put it back down. Finish the damn lift
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Watch some of the world record DLs, if they can slow the fall so can you. To the average gym member it may look/sound like dropping weight but that heavy you can’t set it down gently. To me dropping is completely letting go of the bar at top position which I don’t see any reason to do unless you lost the grip or something.[/quote]
Agreed. I just never understood the reason of dropping the weight. I saw in back in high school in football and I see it now in the gym. If you can pull it up, Im pretty sure you can put it back down. Finish the damn lift[/quote]
Agreed, guys would try to drop it years ago to save a little energy for another lift. Without bumper plates it can damage the bar.I’m not saying a ten second eccentric, just maintain control of it.
[quote]zishe wrote:
It disturbs the idiots on the cardio equipment or those that are socializing and in a pissing match, the people actually lifting always lose out [/quote]
I’ve found that for the most part that if your friendly and leave the area you work out in better off than it was then you get a lot more leniency with the staff and people are less likely to complain.
[quote]burt128 wrote:
Be careful with this in meets. I’ve gotten reds for dropping the bar when my hands never left it. Not the right call in my mind, but I’ve had it happen.[/quote]
What fed? I saw a couple people lower the bar real slow at an IPA meet I did which seemed really weird to me. I’m just wondering what feds actually require that.[/quote]
[quote]zishe wrote:
It disturbs the idiots on the cardio equipment or those that are socializing and in a pissing match, the people actually lifting always lose out [/quote]
I’ve found that for the most part that if your friendly and leave the area you work out in better off than it was then you get a lot more leniency with the staff and people are less likely to complain.[/quote]
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If I was doing something like 5/3/1 and it was my last set and I was going for AMRAP, I might drop my pulls or control them less on the way down to try and conserve energy to get more reps. Even then though, I still use a “controlled drop” and have my hands on the bar as I drop it down, I won’t just let go of it from a standing position. If you’re not going to drop the bar in a competition, don’t do it in training.
I really don’t think it matters though. If you’re at a meet and just locked out a deadlift, even if you dropped every pull in training for the last year, I’m still pretty positive you’d be able to lower the bar in enough of a controlled manner to get the lift passed.