Oops, the case example was 12 weeks. Not 8. My bad… thats ~2 pounds a week.
Chiming in way late, but hey, lots of great stuff on this thread.
Really great JB chimed in.
As i said, I’m a huge JB believer, have been following his principles for years, reading all the articles and getting great new results even after training for 20 years.
I suppose the part that was the most outrageous or unbelievable was the fact that the athlete in questions did not change her daily exercise at all.
Just increased calories and lost 25 pounds…which is a LOT of weight…that’s HUGE.
In every other example…or most that i’ve read…involving the G-Flux principles, exercise was increased along with calories. The weight loss or body comp changes (fat reduces, muscle increases, metabolism increases) makes perfect sense.
So this was the first…or maybe the most extreme example i had seen where someone lost a lot of weight with no exercise increase AT ALL…and yet increased calories a LOT.
In the linked G-Flux interview JB says this:
"You’re right, G-Flux is not about simply “eating more to boost metabolism”. Flux means flow and we’re talking about energy flow into and out of the body. So G-Flux covers both the intake and expenditure sides of the equation.
In essence, G-Flux is about exercising more so that you can eat more and all the while improve metabolism, lean mass and body fat %."
However, the athlete’s results seem to say the exact opposite.
That’s where i personally got confused.
However, i do trust JB and i am certainly not a nutritional scientist by any stretch.
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Chiming in way late, but hey, lots of great stuff on this thread.
Really great JB chimed in.
As i said, I’m a huge JB believer, have been following his principles for years, reading all the articles and getting great new results even after training for 20 years.
I suppose the part that was the most outrageous or unbelievable was the fact that the athlete in questions did not change her daily exercise at all.
Just increased calories and lost 25 pounds…which is a LOT of weight…that’s HUGE.
In every other example…or most that i’ve read…involving the G-Flux principles, exercise was increased along with calories. The weight loss or body comp changes (fat reduces, muscle increases, metabolism increases) makes perfect sense.
So this was the first…or maybe the most extreme example i had seen where someone lost a lot of weight with no exercise increase AT ALL…and yet increased calories a LOT.
In the linked G-Flux interview JB says this:
"You’re right, G-Flux is not about simply “eating more to boost metabolism”. Flux means flow and we’re talking about energy flow into and out of the body. So G-Flux covers both the intake and expenditure sides of the equation.
In essence, G-Flux is about exercising more so that you can eat more and all the while improve metabolism, lean mass and body fat %."
However, the athlete’s results seem to say the exact opposite.
That’s where i personally got confused.
However, i do trust JB and i am certainly not a nutritional scientist by any stretch.
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Great post as it isolates the major issue here - and yes, this is where it gets confusing.
And I’ll admit, even I was a bit confused at the time as I thought I’d start her out at a calorie level proportional to her expenditure and then decrease calories in an outcome-based manner.
But I never had to! She just kept losing fat!
Understand though, we’re talking about an athlete who was doing a TON of physical activity at a very high level.
I’m fairly certain this strategy WILL NOT work for a “recreational exerciser” (unless their volume is very high and their energy intake very low). For the recreational exerciser, as the link above discusses, would likely need to increase BOTH.
Great information here!
It’s always a treat to have the experts pay us a visit.
yeah i agree, great posts ladies and gents. i have been doing more reading from JB.com and learning more about g-flux and massive eating. at first my body was not responding well to C+P meals and P+F meals. but now, after being on the program for a bit, my body has adapted and i can see the changes. small, but changes.