I think you know I’m not in favor of the vaccine, but the data doesn’t support this claim. It’s better than nothing, but natural immunity is proven to be significantly more effective than immunotherapy (vax).
There is an argument to be made that repeatedly hitting your R Spike Protein could cause autoimmune wearout though, which could make an average cold/flu/covid much worse than if you hadn’t gotten the jab - but it is still largely suspect.
I do believe they are still vested (financially, if not also politically) in labelling causes of death to be Covid. LA County just stopped mandating masks like 8 months ago (I work in LA County).
Anywhooo, we should stop making Mr. Brignole’s death an anti-vaxx argument. Don’t like it? Don’t get it.
I’m sure that is all available. Anecdotally however I can still remember news reports, late last year. The majority of the population had been vaccinated, but nearly all those dying from Covid in Britain had been vaccinated(somewhere around 80-90%).
The argument about the effectiveness of the vaccine was made before the majority of people were vaccinated. People wanted to believe, and were told that it worked not only to stop people from dying, but from catching it in the first place, and that it stopped people passing it on. Pfizer executives are now saying they never made such assertions, or that they had been misinterpreted. Drug companies made vast profits, regardless, and are indemnified from legal action, from those that suffered vaccine side effects including death. They won whether it worked or not!!!
It either works or it doesn’t. What other tried and tested vaccines perform like the covid vax? None that I’ve ever heard. There is a saying that goes something like this" Its easier to con a person, than to afterwards convince them that they have actually been conned".
I liked Doug Brignole, I think he was a good guy, and I’m sorry that he passed on way too young. The irony of the situation marvels me, it is textbook example. A guy believes in a vaccine, takes the vaccine to test his belief that it is safe. He doesn’t die from vaccine side effect. The vaccine didn’t protect him and instead he dies from the actual disease that the vaccine
was supposed to save him from.
Anyone else learn any valuable life lessons from the Covid “epidemic”? I still have a little hope in humanity, or at least some small pockets of it.
My condolences to Doug Brignole’s family and friends!
I didn’t learn much from the “pandemic.” Several years before it began I took George Carlin’s words seriously. Something along the lines of not believing anything the government tells me.
I think that is too simplistic. For example, a small pox vaccination provides full immunity for 3-5 years, and then begins to wear off. That is long enough to be of value in stamping out an epidemic, but you don’t necessarily get lifetime immunity. Also note that with smallpox, “full immunity” is defined as 95% effective, not 100% effective.
If you want more durable protection then that, you can forego the vaccine and get infected with smallpox. I’ve read that this might give you life time immunity, ASSUMING you survive the infection (30% won’t). So for that disease, acquiring more durable immunity naturally is a very risky proposition.
For many older people, especially those with pre-existing health conditions, that is the calculation that had to be made with Covid: Was it worth the risk of dying from the disease to acquire immunity naturally, or were you better off with the vaccine? Early in the pandemic, finding out if you could survive the disease didn’t work out for a significant number of people (obviously not everyone).
As far as I can tell now, neither natural infection nor vaccination provide immunity that is particularly durable. Natural immunity might give you an edge, but both fall well short of lifetime protection. Given how rapidly the virus is mutating, that may not change for a long time. So older people, and those dealing with impaired immune systems and other chronic illnesses still have a difficult calculation to make,
Given that neither natural infection or vaccination provide perfect or durable protection, we will eventually reach a situation where nearly everyone who dies from Covid will have been vaccinated and/or had a previous infection. That is because no one will reach middle age without having had one or both of those things happen. Those death will be concentrated among the elderly and the sick. Kind of like what happens with other common infectious diseases that we have all been exposed to over the course of our lives.
That’s a pretty big difference to the Covid vaccine. How long is it effective, if at all? Is there any scientific proof that its even 1% effective, let alone for how long?