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[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

[quote]Sentoguy wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
Wrestling is the base for mma, wrestlers dominate it all. most champions in history were wrestlers.[/quote]

Really? What evidence are you using to make that statement?

I’m not arguing that wrestling is a great base for MMA, and while there might be more champions who were wrestlers than there were who were say Muay Thai fighters; actually they are the minority of total UFC champions.[/quote]

Matt Hughes, Fedor, Liddell, Hendo, Couture, Ben Askren, Warren, GSP, Sherk, Lesnar, Velasquez, Kid Yamamoto, Coleman, Shamrock, Faber, King Mo.[/quote]

Fedor’s base is Sambo/Judo
Liddel wrestled in college, but his base is actually Koei-Kan Karate
GSP’s base is Kyokushin Karate
Shamrock (regardless whether you’re talking about Frank or Ken)'s base is Pankration

Royce Gracie, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Tim Sylvia, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Alistair Overeem, Vitor Belfort, Frank Mir, Rich Franklin, Ricco Rodriguez, Bas Rutten, Andrei Arlovski, Lyoto Machida, Mauricio Shogun Rua, Murilo Bustamante, Carlos Newton, Matt Serra, Jose Aldo, Miguel Torres, Takanori Gomi, Wanderlei Silva, Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic, Kazuo Misaki, Igor Vovchanchyn, Oleg Taktarov, Marco Ruas
[/quote]

Yeah, but wrestlers had the longer time holding the belt, longer career span being competitive.

I’m not bashing any other martial arts/styles, but especially us(brazilians) need to learn that without wrestling we will get ragdolled every fight.[/quote]

Randy maybe, but he’s the exception, not the rule.

Look, I’m not bashing wrestling, arguing that it can be a great base for MMA, or arguing that it’s a critical aspect of the fight game. But you can’t go making blanket statements like the one you did which aren’t actually based in fact.

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aren’t they?

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[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

Yeah, but wrestlers had the longer time holding the belt, longer career span being competitive.
[/quote]

Whatever anyone thinks about wrestling the above statement is true relative to the UFC, to the best of my knowledge.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

Yeah, but wrestlers had the longer time holding the belt, longer career span being competitive.
[/quote]

Whatever anyone thinks about wrestling the above statement is true relative to the UFC, to the best of my knowledge. [/quote]
Longest belt holder is Anderson no wrestling base. Fedor no wrestling. GSP no wrestling base. Sento already made a huge list so I won’t continue.

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[quote]sardines12 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

Yeah, but wrestlers had the longer time holding the belt, longer career span being competitive.
[/quote]

Whatever anyone thinks about wrestling the above statement is true relative to the UFC, to the best of my knowledge. [/quote]
Longest belt holder is Anderson no wrestling base. Fedor no wrestling. GSP no wrestling base. Sento already made a huge list so I won’t continue. [/quote]

Sambo is a type of wrestling, and it’s pure conjecture to say GSP is no wrestler only because his base is karate.

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[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

[quote]sardines12 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

Yeah, but wrestlers had the longer time holding the belt, longer career span being competitive.
[/quote]

Whatever anyone thinks about wrestling the above statement is true relative to the UFC, to the best of my knowledge. [/quote]
Longest belt holder is Anderson no wrestling base. Fedor no wrestling. GSP no wrestling base. Sento already made a huge list so I won’t continue. [/quote]

Sambo is a type of wrestling, and it’s pure conjecture to say GSP is no wrestler only because his base is karate.[/quote]

Then so is BJJ, or any grappling art for that matter. Once you go to that broad of a definition though, your response about Brazilians needing to embrace wrestling doesn’t make any sense.

Dude, just admit it, you made an uneducated statement and got called on it. You were wrong, happens to the best of us. We can still all agree that wrestling is a great base for MMA and is one of the fundamental skill sets of MMA.

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[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
aren’t they?[/quote]

???

You wrote:
Wrestling is the base for mma, wrestlers dominate it all. most champions in history were wrestlers.

I proved you wrong by pointing out that several of the people who you named did not in fact come from a wrestling (which would include Folkstyle wrestling, Freestyle wrestling, Greco Roman wrestling, or Catch wrestling) base and that there have been more MMA champions in history who didn’t come from a wrestling base than there have been who did.

Pretty much sums up the definition of “not based in factual evidence” from my understanding of those words.

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OK i admit defeat.

you have my sword.

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LOL. Cool, ok, so now that we have that out of the way, what is your prediction for how the fight will to down Kaiser? It seems from your posts that you think Carwin will win, but how? Do you think he’ll KO Dos Santos, or take him down and pound him out?

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
LOL. Cool, ok, so now that we have that out of the way, what is your prediction for how the fight will to down Kaiser? It seems from your posts that you think Carwin will win, but how? Do you think he’ll KO Dos Santos, or take him down and pound him out?[/quote]

We haven’t seen JDS ground work yet, I’m pretty sure Carwin will be able to Take him down and do some good damage from there. As long as he don’t get Lactic Acidosis, and i don’t think he will, he is much more slimer and lighter heading to this fight.

JDS also has showed to gas on Nelson fight, unless Carwin decides to stand and trade with JDS, i think he got this one

Napao had control of the fight on the ground, one slight mistake and Carwin caught him with a big straight right(he doesn’t even turned his hips on that one and packed that much punch power.) so JDS is more screwed fighting Carwin than Brock.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Dos Santos, mid-late second round. [/quote]

So my prediction was a little off but still, not surprised how the fight went. I still dont understand how so many people thought Carwin had anything for Dos Santos. This is one of the few UFC fights i would have been willing to make a serious bet on. It was not difficult to see that Dos Santos would dominate this fight.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Dos Santos, mid-late second round. [/quote]

So my prediction was a little off but still, not surprised how the fight went. I still dont understand how so many people thought Carwin had anything for Dos Santos. This is one of the few UFC fights i would have been willing to make a serious bet on. It was not difficult to see that Dos Santos would dominate this fight. [/quote]

We all knew there would be a difference in speed, but it was very noticeable in the fight. JDS was able to land explosive punches and combos, while Carwin was only landing single shots. JDS’ strength is very underrated IMO. He is a large man. He weighed in at 239, Cain weighed in at 244 against Lesnar. However, JDS appears to have alot more lean muscle mass than Cain does, despite the 5 pound difference.

I was impressed with his ground game and how he handled being pressed against the cage. He showed a great sense of urgency in getting back to his feet the one time Carwin did take him down. I’ll be starting a JDS vs. Cain thread, but right now I would give the edge to JDS. He just looks so quick and explosive. His takedowns on Carwin were lightning fast. I believe he is faster, and possibly stronger than Cain. I wanted to see this fight after Cain beat Brock, so I was rooting for Junior to get the shot at the title again. Gonna be a good fight.

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Top 10 MMA fighters who had a Wrestling base, current and in the past?

Coleman, Couture, Edgar, Maynard, Ortiz, Hughes, Frye, Severn, Lesnar, Koscheck, Fitch, Rashad, Sonnen, Bones Jones, Velasquz, Mir, Henderson, Randleman, Lindland, Sherk, Van Arsdale, Hamill…

I’ll stop right there. What’s that like 15 current and past champions? And this is by no means an exhastive list. And there are many more wrestlers turned mma who are doing very well for themselves. As I said Wrestling is an incredible base to have going into mma. And more champions have come from Wrestling than any other individual sport. Probably with BJJ being a close second.

Wrestling haters…suck it up!

:slight_smile:

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[quote]Dre Cappa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Dos Santos, mid-late second round. [/quote]

So my prediction was a little off but still, not surprised how the fight went. I still dont understand how so many people thought Carwin had anything for Dos Santos. This is one of the few UFC fights i would have been willing to make a serious bet on. It was not difficult to see that Dos Santos would dominate this fight. [/quote]

We all knew there would be a difference in speed, but it was very noticeable in the fight. JDS was able to land explosive punches and combos, while Carwin was only landing single shots. JDS’ strength is very underrated IMO. He is a large man. He weighed in at 239, Cain weighed in at 244 against Lesnar. However, JDS appears to have alot more lean muscle mass than Cain does, despite the 5 pound difference.

I was impressed with his ground game and how he handled being pressed against the cage. He showed a great sense of urgency in getting back to his feet the one time Carwin did take him down. I’ll be starting a JDS vs. Cain thread, but right now I would give the edge to JDS. He just looks so quick and explosive. His takedowns on Carwin were lightning fast. I believe he is faster, and possibly stronger than Cain. I wanted to see this fight after Cain beat Brock, so I was rooting for Junior to get the shot at the title again. Gonna be a good fight.[/quote]

I agree, people that thought Carwin’s strength was going to be a deciding factor in this fight really need to take a better look at JDS. The guy is a VERY lean 240, and hits as hard as anyone. I also dont know why anyone had reason to believe that Carwin would be able to win this fight on the ground. His wrestling pedigree is not that impressive compared to many others in the UFC, and he’s always been kind of sluggish, so i wouldnt have expected any submission wizardry out of him. Besides, anyone who knows of JDS’s background knows he was originally a BJJ guy and all you have to do is look at who he trains his ground game under; AS and the Nogs.

And i have been saying since Cain won the belt that he will lose it to Dos Santos. He’ll be dropping Cain like Kongo did, and there is no way Cain is going to be able to hold him down for 5 rounds.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Dre Cappa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Dos Santos, mid-late second round. [/quote]

So my prediction was a little off but still, not surprised how the fight went. I still dont understand how so many people thought Carwin had anything for Dos Santos. This is one of the few UFC fights i would have been willing to make a serious bet on. It was not difficult to see that Dos Santos would dominate this fight. [/quote]

We all knew there would be a difference in speed, but it was very noticeable in the fight. JDS was able to land explosive punches and combos, while Carwin was only landing single shots. JDS’ strength is very underrated IMO. He is a large man. He weighed in at 239, Cain weighed in at 244 against Lesnar. However, JDS appears to have alot more lean muscle mass than Cain does, despite the 5 pound difference.

I was impressed with his ground game and how he handled being pressed against the cage. He showed a great sense of urgency in getting back to his feet the one time Carwin did take him down. I’ll be starting a JDS vs. Cain thread, but right now I would give the edge to JDS. He just looks so quick and explosive. His takedowns on Carwin were lightning fast. I believe he is faster, and possibly stronger than Cain. I wanted to see this fight after Cain beat Brock, so I was rooting for Junior to get the shot at the title again. Gonna be a good fight.[/quote]

I agree, people that thought Carwin’s strength was going to be a deciding factor in this fight really need to take a better look at JDS. The guy is a VERY lean 240, and hits as hard as anyone. I also dont know why anyone had reason to believe that Carwin would be able to win this fight on the ground. His wrestling pedigree is not that impressive compared to many others in the UFC, and he’s always been kind of sluggish, so i wouldnt have expected any submission wizardry out of him. Besides, anyone who knows of JDS’s background knows he was originally a BJJ guy and all you have to do is look at who he trains his ground game under; AS and the Nogs.

And i have been saying since Cain won the belt that he will lose it to Dos Santos. He’ll be dropping Cain like Kongo did, and there is no way Cain is going to be able to hold him down for 5 rounds. [/quote]

In March 2011 issue of Fight! magazine, JDS claims he started training bjj in 2005 at the age of 21 to lose weight. Before that he claims he messed around with Capoeira at age 14, but nothing serious. Then he did construction as a teen and got strong lifting heavy things. So basically the guy has been training for 6 years and is about to challenge for a world title. I honestly didn’t know much about his backstory until recently, but I think it is time to start thinking of him as an extremely gifted athlete. According to his coaches, he learns very fast and seems to improve in each fight. Those takedowns on Carwin were impressive.

As for his build, that 230-240 range seems to be the best range for an MMA HW. It allows you to still be mobile and explosive, but still big and strong enough to pack HW power behind your punches. Just a couple years ago the big thing was the “new breed” of massive HWs. Now those huge guys that cut to 265 like Lesnar and Carwin have dropped weight to improve conditioning, speed, agility etc. Overeem has Kryptonian DNA so I don’t count him.

After seeing how prepared JDS came into last night’s fight, I don’t think Lesnar would have fared any better. I think JDS held back a bit and was a bit more measured picking his shots and his appeared to be very wary of Carwin’s one-shot power. I think he probably could have fended off Lesnar’s takedowns, or atleast gotten back up if he did go down. I know Lesnar was hurt bad in the Cain fight, but he looked like he shot his wad early. If that would have happened against JDS and he couldn’t have gotten it to the ground, it would have ended the same as the Cain fight.

Props to Carwin for hanging in for all 3 rounds, as he had never seen a 3rd round in his career, especially after the beating he took in Round 1. His face was an absolute mess.

As far as Cain vs. JDS, we are probably looking at the closest thing to Fedor vs. Nog or Fedor vs. Cro Cop in terms of two HWs still in the prime of their career going head to head. Both have very good records, both are still in their primes and still hungry as hell. It remains to be seen how they will be remembered by the time they retire, but this is an incredibly exciting fight right now.

Edit: Very ballsy of JDS to come out to the Rocky theme lol. Also, did anyone notice Damian Maia walking out with him as well? I know Maia had some beef with Blackhouse, particularly AS. Kind of interesting, but having Maia in your corner when you might need some jits is always helpful.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Dre Cappa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Dos Santos, mid-late second round. [/quote]

So my prediction was a little off but still, not surprised how the fight went. I still dont understand how so many people thought Carwin had anything for Dos Santos. This is one of the few UFC fights i would have been willing to make a serious bet on. It was not difficult to see that Dos Santos would dominate this fight. [/quote]

We all knew there would be a difference in speed, but it was very noticeable in the fight. JDS was able to land explosive punches and combos, while Carwin was only landing single shots. JDS’ strength is very underrated IMO. He is a large man. He weighed in at 239, Cain weighed in at 244 against Lesnar. However, JDS appears to have alot more lean muscle mass than Cain does, despite the 5 pound difference.

I was impressed with his ground game and how he handled being pressed against the cage. He showed a great sense of urgency in getting back to his feet the one time Carwin did take him down. I’ll be starting a JDS vs. Cain thread, but right now I would give the edge to JDS. He just looks so quick and explosive. His takedowns on Carwin were lightning fast. I believe he is faster, and possibly stronger than Cain. I wanted to see this fight after Cain beat Brock, so I was rooting for Junior to get the shot at the title again. Gonna be a good fight.[/quote]

I agree, people that thought Carwin’s strength was going to be a deciding factor in this fight really need to take a better look at JDS. The guy is a VERY lean 240, and hits as hard as anyone. I also dont know why anyone had reason to believe that Carwin would be able to win this fight on the ground. His wrestling pedigree is not that impressive compared to many others in the UFC, and he’s always been kind of sluggish, so i wouldnt have expected any submission wizardry out of him. Besides, anyone who knows of JDS’s background knows he was originally a BJJ guy and all you have to do is look at who he trains his ground game under; AS and the Nogs.

And i have been saying since Cain won the belt that he will lose it to Dos Santos. He’ll be dropping Cain like Kongo did, and there is no way Cain is going to be able to hold him down for 5 rounds. [/quote]

Pretty sure camp Carwin was planning on taking down JDS and finishing with ground and pound.

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[quote]Dre Cappa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Dre Cappa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Dos Santos, mid-late second round. [/quote]

So my prediction was a little off but still, not surprised how the fight went. I still dont understand how so many people thought Carwin had anything for Dos Santos. This is one of the few UFC fights i would have been willing to make a serious bet on. It was not difficult to see that Dos Santos would dominate this fight. [/quote]

We all knew there would be a difference in speed, but it was very noticeable in the fight. JDS was able to land explosive punches and combos, while Carwin was only landing single shots. JDS’ strength is very underrated IMO. He is a large man. He weighed in at 239, Cain weighed in at 244 against Lesnar. However, JDS appears to have alot more lean muscle mass than Cain does, despite the 5 pound difference.

I was impressed with his ground game and how he handled being pressed against the cage. He showed a great sense of urgency in getting back to his feet the one time Carwin did take him down. I’ll be starting a JDS vs. Cain thread, but right now I would give the edge to JDS. He just looks so quick and explosive. His takedowns on Carwin were lightning fast. I believe he is faster, and possibly stronger than Cain. I wanted to see this fight after Cain beat Brock, so I was rooting for Junior to get the shot at the title again. Gonna be a good fight.[/quote]

I agree, people that thought Carwin’s strength was going to be a deciding factor in this fight really need to take a better look at JDS. The guy is a VERY lean 240, and hits as hard as anyone. I also dont know why anyone had reason to believe that Carwin would be able to win this fight on the ground. His wrestling pedigree is not that impressive compared to many others in the UFC, and he’s always been kind of sluggish, so i wouldnt have expected any submission wizardry out of him. Besides, anyone who knows of JDS’s background knows he was originally a BJJ guy and all you have to do is look at who he trains his ground game under; AS and the Nogs.

And i have been saying since Cain won the belt that he will lose it to Dos Santos. He’ll be dropping Cain like Kongo did, and there is no way Cain is going to be able to hold him down for 5 rounds. [/quote]

In March 2011 issue of Fight! magazine, JDS claims he started training bjj in 2005 at the age of 21 to lose weight. Before that he claims he messed around with Capoeira at age 14, but nothing serious. Then he did construction as a teen and got strong lifting heavy things. So basically the guy has been training for 6 years and is about to challenge for a world title. I honestly didn’t know much about his backstory until recently, but I think it is time to start thinking of him as an extremely gifted athlete. According to his coaches, he learns very fast and seems to improve in each fight. Those takedowns on Carwin were impressive.

As for his build, that 230-240 range seems to be the best range for an MMA HW. It allows you to still be mobile and explosive, but still big and strong enough to pack HW power behind your punches. Just a couple years ago the big thing was the “new breed” of massive HWs. Now those huge guys that cut to 265 like Lesnar and Carwin have dropped weight to improve conditioning, speed, agility etc. Overeem has Kryptonian DNA so I don’t count him.

After seeing how prepared JDS came into last night’s fight, I don’t think Lesnar would have fared any better. I think JDS held back a bit and was a bit more measured picking his shots and his appeared to be very wary of Carwin’s one-shot power. I think he probably could have fended off Lesnar’s takedowns, or atleast gotten back up if he did go down. I know Lesnar was hurt bad in the Cain fight, but he looked like he shot his wad early. If that would have happened against JDS and he couldn’t have gotten it to the ground, it would have ended the same as the Cain fight.

Props to Carwin for hanging in for all 3 rounds, as he had never seen a 3rd round in his career, especially after the beating he took in Round 1. His face was an absolute mess.

As far as Cain vs. JDS, we are probably looking at the closest thing to Fedor vs. Nog or Fedor vs. Cro Cop in terms of two HWs still in the prime of their career going head to head. Both have very good records, both are still in their primes and still hungry as hell. It remains to be seen how they will be remembered by the time they retire, but this is an incredibly exciting fight right now.

Edit: Very ballsy of JDS to come out to the Rocky theme lol. Also, did anyone notice Damian Maia walking out with him as well? I know Maia had some beef with Blackhouse, particularly AS. Kind of interesting, but having Maia in your corner when you might need some jits is always helpful.[/quote]

I think Reem vs the winner of this fight is more similar to Fedor Cro Cop. I really want to see Sergei vs Reem or JDS though.

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After seem that fight i definitely concur that REEM would STEAMROLL them.

Give REEM to Velasquez.

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I am as big a fan as Overeem as they come (without having a mancrush on the guy… ok maybe a little). But let’s have him beat a legit HW in MMA first before we jump to conclusions. As we all know, K1 and MMA are very different sports.

Next weekend is going to be very interesting. A test of how good Alistair really is, and a test of where Barnett currently stands in the HW division (or perhaps not, Rogers isn’t consistent or particularly high level).

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[quote]Dre Cappa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]Dre Cappa wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Dos Santos, mid-late second round. [/quote]

So my prediction was a little off but still, not surprised how the fight went. I still dont understand how so many people thought Carwin had anything for Dos Santos. This is one of the few UFC fights i would have been willing to make a serious bet on. It was not difficult to see that Dos Santos would dominate this fight. [/quote]

We all knew there would be a difference in speed, but it was very noticeable in the fight. JDS was able to land explosive punches and combos, while Carwin was only landing single shots. JDS’ strength is very underrated IMO. He is a large man. He weighed in at 239, Cain weighed in at 244 against Lesnar. However, JDS appears to have alot more lean muscle mass than Cain does, despite the 5 pound difference.

I was impressed with his ground game and how he handled being pressed against the cage. He showed a great sense of urgency in getting back to his feet the one time Carwin did take him down. I’ll be starting a JDS vs. Cain thread, but right now I would give the edge to JDS. He just looks so quick and explosive. His takedowns on Carwin were lightning fast. I believe he is faster, and possibly stronger than Cain. I wanted to see this fight after Cain beat Brock, so I was rooting for Junior to get the shot at the title again. Gonna be a good fight.[/quote]

I agree, people that thought Carwin’s strength was going to be a deciding factor in this fight really need to take a better look at JDS. The guy is a VERY lean 240, and hits as hard as anyone. I also dont know why anyone had reason to believe that Carwin would be able to win this fight on the ground. His wrestling pedigree is not that impressive compared to many others in the UFC, and he’s always been kind of sluggish, so i wouldnt have expected any submission wizardry out of him. Besides, anyone who knows of JDS’s background knows he was originally a BJJ guy and all you have to do is look at who he trains his ground game under; AS and the Nogs.

And i have been saying since Cain won the belt that he will lose it to Dos Santos. He’ll be dropping Cain like Kongo did, and there is no way Cain is going to be able to hold him down for 5 rounds. [/quote]

In March 2011 issue of Fight! magazine, JDS claims he started training bjj in 2005 at the age of 21 to lose weight. Before that he claims he messed around with Capoeira at age 14, but nothing serious. Then he did construction as a teen and got strong lifting heavy things. So basically the guy has been training for 6 years and is about to challenge for a world title. I honestly didn’t know much about his backstory until recently, but I think it is time to start thinking of him as an extremely gifted athlete. According to his coaches, he learns very fast and seems to improve in each fight. Those takedowns on Carwin were impressive.

As for his build, that 230-240 range seems to be the best range for an MMA HW. It allows you to still be mobile and explosive, but still big and strong enough to pack HW power behind your punches. Just a couple years ago the big thing was the “new breed” of massive HWs. Now those huge guys that cut to 265 like Lesnar and Carwin have dropped weight to improve conditioning, speed, agility etc. Overeem has Kryptonian DNA so I don’t count him.

After seeing how prepared JDS came into last night’s fight, I don’t think Lesnar would have fared any better. I think JDS held back a bit and was a bit more measured picking his shots and his appeared to be very wary of Carwin’s one-shot power. I think he probably could have fended off Lesnar’s takedowns, or atleast gotten back up if he did go down. I know Lesnar was hurt bad in the Cain fight, but he looked like he shot his wad early. If that would have happened against JDS and he couldn’t have gotten it to the ground, it would have ended the same as the Cain fight.

Props to Carwin for hanging in for all 3 rounds, as he had never seen a 3rd round in his career, especially after the beating he took in Round 1. His face was an absolute mess.

As far as Cain vs. JDS, we are probably looking at the closest thing to Fedor vs. Nog or Fedor vs. Cro Cop in terms of two HWs still in the prime of their career going head to head. Both have very good records, both are still in their primes and still hungry as hell. It remains to be seen how they will be remembered by the time they retire, but this is an incredibly exciting fight right now.

Edit: Very ballsy of JDS to come out to the Rocky theme lol. Also, did anyone notice Damian Maia walking out with him as well? I know Maia had some beef with Blackhouse, particularly AS. Kind of interesting, but having Maia in your corner when you might need some jits is always helpful.[/quote]

I am not a big JDS fan but i do believe that he is one of the most athletically gifted athletes in the HW division. I agree that him and cain fighting now is perfect timing, although i do not believe JDS is in his prime yet. I think a year from now he will be a far more dominant fighter than he is now (which is hard to believe.) The only current HW in all of MMA that i think has more potential to put on an Anderson Silva-esque run in the UFC is Overeem.