Donnie Thompson Totals 3,000!!!

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[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]apwsearch wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Most likely because it would mean lots and lots of squats would no longer get passed. Other than that, I don’t see what the objection could be.[/quote]

It represents a logistical nightmare for a meet director. It would have to be set up on every lifter, every attempt, and would likely add significant time to the squats. In a fed like IPF where you have a minute after bar’s loaded and the pace of the meets is often very fast, in particular at National and World level, it would require almost a prohibitive amount of additional resources (people and time) to pull off effectively.

Not to mention, I’m not sure it would solve anything because you would put yourself in a position where you were basically solely relying on that to determine depth and error could be encountered in how it was set-up, etc.

I think having 3 judges will always be the way to go.

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I thought about that, and you certainly can’t rely on technology without any sort of backup, so there would still have to be side judges…so yea, wouldn’t be practical at all.

Thoughts on the computer software? I’d like to think a camera at every rack would be doable, and it wouldn’t be too time-consuming, in theory. But it’s been years since I did a full meet, so I can’t speak to that sort of thing at the moment.[/quote]

Who is fronting the cost of the camera? The lifters, the fed holding the meet, or the spectators? I’m simply not going to pay more dues for a camera just so folks on youtube can call my squats good.
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Want a ‘like’ button for this. Think of it this way for a gearwhore: average meet cycle: say you need all new gear: suit $300, briefs $200, DL suit approx $200, shirt $300, entry fee and membership card call it $100, supplementation and/or ‘supplementation’, let’s not even bother. travel??? that get’s pricy. Chiro, massage, etc? if you can afford it.

This is a pretty fucking expensive ‘hobby’ sport, so if you start charging more for a stupid camera so a 110lb 14 year old can verify squat depth from the internet, that ain’t gonna fly…

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
I thought about that, and you certainly can’t rely on technology without any sort of backup, so there would still have to be side judges…so yea, wouldn’t be practical at all.

Thoughts on the computer software? I’d like to think a camera at every rack would be doable, and it wouldn’t be too time-consuming, in theory. But it’s been years since I did a full meet, so I can’t speak to that sort of thing at the moment.[/quote]

Ya know man, I think that would be trying to take a systems based approach to a people based problem. I say this without regard for the current debate that is going on and choose to stay out of it.

Having said that, I watched the APF here in MN go from meets where I basically sat there and said WTF the whole time, to a state now where, having gotten the right people involved, is a very respectable organization and is doing a lot of good for the sport.

To me, the biggest issue is consistency. The problem is how high is too high, or how deep is too deep. IMO, a federation lives and dies by their overall ability to hold people to the same standards (keeping in mind calls will be blown and judges tend to either start every attempt with their finger on the red, or on the white. Some judges think the lifter needs to prove something, some give the benefit of the doubt to the lifter. I prefer the latter approach within the set standards of the fed.)

The reality of things is the only people truly affected by Donnie’s records are those whom aspire to beat them and this is an elite group of people, for sure.

IMO, the rest of us should just keep on keeping on and focus on ourselves. There is way too much emotional energy spent on issues like this one.

OK, done pontificating.

Bottom line, this isn’t an issue that has a solution in enhanced technology. It’s kind of like a Joe Rogan comedic bit where he talks about an indicator for stupid people that you lick and it gives you a result.

People would then spend all their energy searching for a reason to invalidate the test. The same thing would occur if we went to a technology based approach, IMO.[/quote]

Excellent post, and thanks for the comment on the APF (not claiming any part, but good to hear feedback).

So the new meds are working?

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[quote]PeteS wrote:
[Excellent post, and thanks for the comment on the APF (not claiming any part, but good to hear feedback).

So the new meds are working?
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Thanks, no problem, and yes.

I feel stunning, and entrancing, feel like running and dancing for joyyyyy…

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[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
Who is fronting the cost of the camera? The lifters, the fed holding the meet, or the spectators? I’m simply not going to pay more dues for a camera just so folks on youtube can call my squats good.
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a “GoPro” camera costs $179. So you get one of those for each meet and mount it on the side of the rack… Thats not expensive at all.

how many squat racks do they lift in during a PL meet? 1-3 maybe? (never done a meet. doing my first in 5 weeks so I’m a PL newb)

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No one commenting on VTballa’s post hmm…

I like all forms of lifting myself geared or Raw. Whatever floats your boat.

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I bet we could alter the Wilkes formula to apply to gear as well as bodyweight, and argue about that endlessly too

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[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
No one commenting on VTballa’s post hmm…

I like all forms of lifting myself geared or Raw. Whatever floats your boat.[/quote]

THEY CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

I personally like the SPF myself, so I’m really not hating, just stating the facts…it is an organization that lets the lifters go out there and lift, and they always put on a good meet…there is music blaring, ammonia is being snorted, and the announcer will encourage you over the microphone as you begin your lift…its not like a USAPL meet where you feel an inooportune golf clap will not be well received…good atmosphere all around IMO, with high totals to boot…

If they want to call squats high, ok…I’m going to go down and bury mine regardless of how the judges are calling other people because i have no illusions that I am competing on a national stage, and really feel like I’m lifting for myself out there–beat my previous total without caring how I fare against anyone else…

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Since someone made a point that this wasnt responded to…

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

Here is where I will say my piece:

How do you people saying that you can’t judge a squat from the front justify the need for a front judge? Just to give the squat command?

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My guess, to be tie breaker between left and right judges, if we only had side judges, we would get 1 red 1 white, and then what?

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There is a reason you never see a video of a squat from the side in an SPF meet–they say explicitly going into the meet that anyone who attempts to videotape a side squat will be escorted off premises–this goes for lifters and spectators alike…they are very secretive…

Exact quote from the MC at an SPF meet:

“There are only 3 reasons to want to videotape from the side: to beat the lifter down, to beat the judges down, and to beat the federation down”

Take what you want from that…[/quote]

Not sure what to say to this, except that even legal depth squats get ripped on by people who simply because its an SPF squat (see comments on Laura Phelps-Sweatt’s meet video).

^Thats a stretch, I understand, but its a thought.

For the record, I didnt know that that side video was actually forbidden, at the smaller meet I competed at, there videos and pictures taken from side, front-side. I guess the lifters who had this done were not big enough names to make it on Powerliftingwatch, ie, not important enough for people to bitch about.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

I personally like the SPF myself, so I’m really not hating, just stating the facts…it is an organization that lets the lifters go out there and lift, and they always put on a good meet…there is music blaring, ammonia is being snorted, and the announcer will encourage you over the microphone as you begin your lift…its not like a USAPL meet where you feel an inooportune golf clap will not be well received…good atmosphere all around IMO, with high totals to boot…

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The atmosphere of SPF meets is amazing.

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

I personally like the SPF myself, so I’m really not hating, just stating the facts…it is an organization that lets the lifters go out there and lift, and they always put on a good meet…there is music blaring, ammonia is being snorted, and the announcer will encourage you over the microphone as you begin your lift…its not like a USAPL meet where you feel an inooportune golf clap will not be well received…good atmosphere all around IMO, with high totals to boot…

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The atmosphere of SPF meets is amazing.

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SPF FTW!!! (just checked and thats what my meet is lol)

thats pretty sketchy about banning side views though.

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why do people complain about geared and raw? if youve got the money to spend on gear why not? want to aspire like someone in raw, aspire to be stan efferdin (or however you spell it) want to aspire to be someone in geared, aspire to get the amount of elite status’s louie simmons got.

As far as my opinion goes, louie competed raw until they introduced gear. He is now 62 - 63 (or 64 not sure lol) and still trains, gear has enabled him to do that. Why would you complain about gear when it is obviously helping people stay in the sport they love longer and longer and longer? and sometimes without serious injury? for example Andy bolton.

btw this is from a completely neutral view, i dont compete, i have never competed - i am a completely beginner powerlifter and seriously cannot understand why people are whinging about gear.

if your child came to you and was a professional powerlifter and he loved his sport and gear enabled him to stay in the sport he loved the most… you certainly would have a very different perspective.

also there is much worse things than gear… wait until genetic enhansment hits mainstream and powerlifters are no longer large men with a gut who squat over 1000lbs, theyll be larger men with mass amounts of muscel who squat 2000lbs - will you just quit sport all together?

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[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
Since someone made a point that this wasnt responded to…

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

Here is where I will say my piece:

How do you people saying that you can’t judge a squat from the front justify the need for a front judge? Just to give the squat command?

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My guess, to be tie breaker between left and right judges, if we only had side judges, we would get 1 red 1 white, and then what?

I’ll second this I have seen spectators video taping from side angles at SPF meets. Not perfectly from the side because the judge was in the way, but close.

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

I personally like the SPF myself, so I’m really not hating, just stating the facts…it is an organization that lets the lifters go out there and lift, and they always put on a good meet…there is music blaring, ammonia is being snorted, and the announcer will encourage you over the microphone as you begin your lift…its not like a USAPL meet where you feel an inooportune golf clap will not be well received…good atmosphere all around IMO, with high totals to boot…

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The atmosphere of SPF meets is amazing.

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SPF FTW!!! (just checked and thats what my meet is lol)

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Go watch the videos from my meet (and elmores videos as well), you can hear the announcer hollerin, and guys we have never met encouraging and cheering for us

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^^Oh I remember. it was bad ass

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Comparing powerlifting to sports that inherent in their definition is the use of equipment is ridiculous. Inherent in golf is the use of clubs.

beef

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[quote]Lurchman76 wrote:
EVERYONE talking about cameras. There is a simple cheap way to record from the side even with all the spotters. Look up “Go Pro” cameras. you can by a spider tripod and put it on the mono lift and point that tiny camera where u need it. Brian Shwab made a video with it I think awhile back. It works!!! check it out[/quote]

They have fish eye lens so the perspective is distorted. They’re useless for meet judging. Plus they’re 300 bucks.

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good point Jim

I agree with Tom’s assessment of the current state of PL today, that it is pretty much just an underground/club sport.

that will not change, unless there is an organized effort by the usapl and ipf to go back to pretty much sanctioning only raw (belt and knee wraps maybe), but that will probably not happen.

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[quote]beefcakemdphd wrote:
Comparing powerlifting to sports that inherent in their definition is the use of equipment is ridiculous. Inherent in golf is the use of clubs.

beef [/quote]

I was being sarcastic, I think the hate on gear is retarded. Like somehow Donnie Thompson isnt strong bc hes wearing a dam suit

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Raw vs geared debate is ridiculous.

Donnie Thompson Competes in Multiply gear and has the highest multiply total ever He is the best at his division of the sport. Mike Kuhns has the highest raw total @ 148 He is the best at his division of the sport, is one lifter than the other? No they are both at the highest point of the divisions they compete in.

Theyre are a bunch of ridiculous feds out there but none of the big names compete in ridiculous feds, SPF APF WPO are all legit federations (now thspl/MSA pass some shit)

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Hey you guys should see this dude:

Fred 2009 Insane Pogoing - YouTube

He is a great high jumper. His vertical is incredible!! He uses some supportive gear but still he is a great high jumper, one of the best high jumpers I have ever seen. What do you think?