[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
I think it’s more that people are desperate and don’t want to be alone, probably have low self esteem etc on why they stay in those relationships. Also, when you grown up around it, it can seem normal to carry on relationships like that. [/quote]
And this is what’s fucked up with the world.
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
I have to say I disagree with you. It depends too much on the situation and what’s going on to predict what you’ll always do, but I don’t think it’s always best to just walk away. I think if a woman can punch a guy in the face he should be able to punch her back in the face equally hard. I just don’t see the problem with that. You can say well it might be a little harder because he’s a guy but so what? Women fight each other professionally? I don’t see the problem with treating them equally. [/quote]
Hey, man, That’s how you feel. Go on and hit women back. But please make sure you have unbiased witnesses right there. Otherwise it’d be her words against yours when the cops turn up.
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
I’m not condoning abuse in relationships but why should a man automatically be so vilified for hitting a woman? [/quote]
Because men are still perceived as physically stronger?
Even a brawler like me knows that. Not all women can take a man’s powerful punch or slap.
Years ago, I used to box with a guy around the same weight as me and I used to think his blows taste like chocolate. One day, his girlfriend and mates came around to check on him sparring. I got my girlfriends there too and they’re all cheering on us. All his punches that I failed to block got surprisingly tougher. I understood right then, that he’d taken easy on me in the past, even though I told him not to. He shook me numerous times. I saw billions and billions of stars. Lol, but I kept on stalking him. It was like he was fighting for a title or something. The more I hit him, the angrier he got and the harder he hit me back. So we got at it, blood and sweat, 5 rounds of 3 mins. Neither of us willing to let the other one easily.
I won’t lie, for a few seconds, I doubted myself. For the first time sparring with him, I worried he’d smash my brains out. I wasn’t fighting a woman that I could rip into pieces. I was fighting a very proud man. I was also fucking angry I couldn’t use my legs to strike him or use other self defence/bjj techniques that could swiftly put him to sleep. I even heard my friend shouting at the guy who was reffing us, ‘‘Stop it, ref, he’s hurting her!’’ Lol. And I shouted back at the ref, ‘‘I’m fine. Fuck her!’’ At the end of the sparring, we tapped each other on the back, both with bleeding nose and mouth, and that’s when he told me that there was no way he’d let a woman beat him in front of his mates, his gf and the rest of the girls there. Lol. Motherfucker.
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
What if the woman came at him with some kind of non-deadly weapon? Like a pan or something. Hit him in the head or the back of the head with it when he wasn’t looking? [/quote]
What did the guy do or say to cause her to act that way? Does she have some type of mental issue he was/ wasn’t aware of? Did he ignore the red flags at the beginning of the relationship?
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
Does he have the right to hit her now, should he still try to “walk away” or should he still restrain her? Even with no weapon say a woman punches a guy in the ear or gets a finger in his eye and his reflex is to hit her in defense? [/quote]
He hits her back and he’s fucked. He should restrain her at least. Or get the fuck out of here. He’ll have better chance to have a case against her when pressing assault charge. And if in his reflex, he hits her back in defense, meh… I don’t know… he’s fucked?
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
I don’t agree with your Michael Jordan story either. He’s a celebrity and he has money to replace all the crap she breaks. And she could use any excuse to sue him so it’s smarter for him to get out of there. If I let a woman break all my crap. I’m out several thousand dollars of money that I don’t have to replace the stuff. Better to grab her and just throw her out and call the cops, instead of leave and let her break all your stuff. [/quote]
What will cost you more? Replacing your stuff that the bitch destroyed or Lawyer fees after she sues your ass for physical assault? Get out, call the cops. Or get some witnesses to see how crazy she’s acting. Touch her and throw her out and she’ll use it against you.
You just can’t win. And for you to win, you’ll need someone to prove the woman is/has always been a crazy bitch in the course of your relationship. The better option, never get involved with a crazy bitch.
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
I just don’t think we should hold men to higher standards than women. If a bully gets his ass kicked by someone he’s bullying, he’s got it coming but if something like that happens inside of a relationship where the woman is the bully in the relationship and gets her ass kicked then it’s assumed the guy has always been abusing her and is wrong. [/quote]
I agree with you. A bully is a bully. Man or woman. But sadly, as I said earlier, men are still considered stronger than women. Women are more likely to be seen as victims, men are less likely to be taken seriously when reporting the physical abuse they get from their wife. Perhaps, all what those guys need to do is to document their abusers’ attacks? Leave? Or not get involved with a crazy bitch in the first place?
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
Would you feel bad if you found out a guy had been beating his gf/wife for years and threatened to kill her if she left, got up the nerve to shoot him in self defense while he was hitting her? [/quote]
I won’t shed a tear for a fucking bully. I’d say the same for the woman shot by her bf/hubby in self-defence.
