Domestic Violence Against Men

The question will always arise as to if the woman initiated the violence or was defending herself. I’ve also struck someone first when I had the feeling the threat warranted a preemptive action, and I’m sure that other people regardless of gender would do the same.

I don’t really see what the problem is. If you’ve driven someone into a corner they will probably lash out at you, and if it’s a woman don’t be surprised that her fear makes her strong enough to KO you.

Now if you’re just a cukold (sp?) husband and you’re getting plastered every other day, file for divorce or press charges. Thats the only option that women have had for the last half a century or so.

Men dont need to hit people to solve things, neither do Women. You hit me, you aint a real man or women, less we be actually fighting, soon as a punch is thrown is all bets off.

How about pushing the women away? You don’t need to go with your all out boxing combination on her.

[quote]Grimlorn wrote:

If a woman hit me seriously. I’d probably hit her back even if it didn’t hurt. I think if women want equal rights then they should deal with the consequences that brings.

I’ve sparred with some women and that kind of changes your perception on hitting women. I was also taught you should never hit a woman and blah blah blah. But women aren’t as soft and fragile as men think. Most probably are but there are some strong ones out there that can handle themselves.

A lot of women though think they can hit a man anytime they want because it doesn’t physically hurt them. They also laugh when they see men get physically abused by a woman and think men who get beat up by women are pussies (because they don’t hit back and subsequently get their asses kicked), but when a woman gets her ass kicked by a man it’s because he’s an abusive asshole. No one ever asks what provoked the attack and whether the man was defending himself or was hit first.

You’re only classified as scum by dumb women and white knight fags. Sure there are a ton of them but who cares what they think.[/quote]

So because you’ve sparred with some ‘‘strong’’ women you think it’s absolutely okay to hit any other woman back, obviously harder – causing even more damage since your blow will be stronger than hers – if she’d hit you? Interesting. Yes, there are women who think they can fight/hit men, and yeah by all means, please hit them hard. Teach them a lesson. I’d said to those women, ‘want to hit a man? Cool, but be prepared to get hit back, much harder. Suck it in and do not fucking complain. You’ll deserve that beat down.’.

But then there’s always the other option; not hitting back and just walking away. I have more respect for men who have more restrain and who walk away from fiery situations, especially when the assailant is a weakling, petite femme. Hitting her back 'cos you wanna prove you ain’t a pussy or a ‘‘white knight fag’’ makes you a fucking bully. And even a bigger pussy. I mean, fighting someone your own size or ‘‘manly’’ strength won’t be as easy, right? Meh, won’t be my ass charged with assault, since nowadays, women mostly WIN in these kind of situations. Whether you’re in the wrong or right, touch a woman, find yourself slapped with a criminal record.

As a martial artist and ex-fighter, I’m really not the kind of woman who goes around and hits men first in a fit of anger. I’m much more ‘‘touch me/hit me first and you’ll regret it’’ kinda gal. I ALWAYS walk away when I’m fucking angry. I know I’m capable of horrible things when the adrenaline is pumping through my veins. And if the guy even tries to touch me, he’d better make sure that first blow kills me. 'cos right then, I won’t hold back. We will fight till death do us part. I will kill the motherfucker with any thing I can grab right there. And I know I can always claim self-defence and have a chance to WIN in court :wink: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: <<<------ See what I did there?

The moral of the story, men or women, just don’t hit anybody. Avoid physical confrontation. Life is much easier that way. And this is what I’ll teach my future son and daughter.

[quote]nocturnus wrote:
“A poll by equal rights charity Parity shows that more than 40 per cent of domestic violence victims are male.”

Now, I have read a few posts on these forums saying that men should never hit women - men should be strong enough to restrain women without resorting to violence.

But with such a large number of women insisting on equal rights, if a woman strikes out at you, are you justified in striking back? I’m sure most of us would if we were being beaten by another guy.

If a woman, in a drunken state or otherwise, starts aiming punches at my face, biting me, etc, am I classed as the scum of the earth for what is essentially self defence?

I don’t have any personal experience of this, it’s just that the 40% was higher than I was expecting.[/quote]

I suspect that whatever someone does to provoke a woman into attacking a man capable of physically destroying them removes any innocence from the equation.

I always laugh at these bullshit hypotheticals. What if some woman starts flying off and attacks me and is punching me and all that? Whatever shall I do?

You know what you do? You stop acting like such a fucking moron that you provoked such behavior. This sort of reaction by women is almost never without some provocation or warning. Women are either provoked into this sort of behavior or they are so fucking crazy that this behavior should not by any means be a surprise.

I wonder what percentage of that 40% were men who antagonized a woman thinking that she would never take on a “man” and then it happens and they’re totally unprepared and don’t know what to do. I think men like that deserve whatever they get. It’s like sticking your finger in an animal cage with a fuzzy, cute little rabbit in it and you keep poking at the thing and then it has a reaction and bites you.

How to handle woman-on-man domestic violence.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]nocturnus wrote:
“A poll by equal rights charity Parity shows that more than 40 per cent of domestic violence victims are male.”

Now, I have read a few posts on these forums saying that men should never hit women - men should be strong enough to restrain women without resorting to violence.

But with such a large number of women insisting on equal rights, if a woman strikes out at you, are you justified in striking back? I’m sure most of us would if we were being beaten by another guy.

If a woman, in a drunken state or otherwise, starts aiming punches at my face, biting me, etc, am I classed as the scum of the earth for what is essentially self defence?

I don’t have any personal experience of this, it’s just that the 40% was higher than I was expecting.[/quote]

I suspect that whatever someone does to provoke a woman into attacking a man capable of physically destroying them removes any innocence from the equation.

I always laugh at these bullshit hypotheticals. What if some woman starts flying off and attacks me and is punching me and all that? Whatever shall I do?

You know what you do? You stop acting like such a fucking moron that you provoked such behavior. This sort of reaction by women is almost never without some provocation or warning. Women are either provoked into this sort of behavior or they are so fucking crazy that this behavior should not by any means be a surprise.

I wonder what percentage of that 40% were men who antagonized a woman thinking that she would never take on a “man” and then it happens and they’re totally unprepared and don’t know what to do. I think men like that deserve whatever they get. It’s like sticking your finger in an animal cage with a fuzzy, cute little rabbit in it and you keep poking at the thing and then it has a reaction and bites you.[/quote]

Stuff like this always reminds me of an old roommate of mine that swore he would never hit a woman under any circumstances. “Even if she had a weapon?” I asked. “Never,” he said. One day an ex girlfriend of his decides (for whatever reason) he needed to die. So she grabs a knife and chases my roommate and his new girlfriend across the apartment building into my room. Apparently she didn’t think I was home because she freaked out when she realized I was there. I made it clear I was pissed and forced her under threat of violence to leave. Afterward, I called the police and got a restraining order.

My roommate was glad that I was there to solve the problem, but still thought of himself as better than me because he wasn’t willing to use violence against a woman to defend himself and I was. Nowadays, every time I see something like this, I’m reminded of him.

[quote]Tubbs wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]nocturnus wrote:
“A poll by equal rights charity Parity shows that more than 40 per cent of domestic violence victims are male.”

Now, I have read a few posts on these forums saying that men should never hit women - men should be strong enough to restrain women without resorting to violence.

But with such a large number of women insisting on equal rights, if a woman strikes out at you, are you justified in striking back? I’m sure most of us would if we were being beaten by another guy.

If a woman, in a drunken state or otherwise, starts aiming punches at my face, biting me, etc, am I classed as the scum of the earth for what is essentially self defence?

I don’t have any personal experience of this, it’s just that the 40% was higher than I was expecting.[/quote]

I suspect that whatever someone does to provoke a woman into attacking a man capable of physically destroying them removes any innocence from the equation.

I always laugh at these bullshit hypotheticals. What if some woman starts flying off and attacks me and is punching me and all that? Whatever shall I do?

You know what you do? You stop acting like such a fucking moron that you provoked such behavior. This sort of reaction by women is almost never without some provocation or warning. Women are either provoked into this sort of behavior or they are so fucking crazy that this behavior should not by any means be a surprise.

I wonder what percentage of that 40% were men who antagonized a woman thinking that she would never take on a “man” and then it happens and they’re totally unprepared and don’t know what to do. I think men like that deserve whatever they get. It’s like sticking your finger in an animal cage with a fuzzy, cute little rabbit in it and you keep poking at the thing and then it has a reaction and bites you.[/quote]

Stuff like this always reminds me of an old roommate of mine that swore he would never hit a woman under any circumstances. “Even if she had a weapon?” I asked. “Never,” he said. One day an ex girlfriend of his decides (for whatever reason) he needed to die. So she grabs a knife and chases my roommate and his new girlfriend across the apartment building into my room. Apparently she didn’t think I was home because she freaked out when she realized I was there. I made it clear I was pissed and forced her under threat of violence to leave. Afterward, I called the police and got a restraining order.

My roommate was glad that I was there to solve the problem, but still thought of himself as better than me because he wasn’t willing to use violence against a woman to defend himself and I was. Nowadays, every time I see something like this, I’m reminded of him.
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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
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LOL I remember this

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

You know what you do? You stop acting like such a fucking moron that you provoked such behavior. This sort of reaction by women is almost never without some provocation or warning. Women are either provoked into this sort of behavior or they are so fucking crazy that this behavior should not by any means be a surprise.

I wonder what percentage of that 40% were men who antagonized a woman thinking that she would never take on a “man” and then it happens and they’re totally unprepared and don’t know what to do. I think men like that deserve whatever they get. It’s like sticking your finger in an animal cage with a fuzzy, cute little rabbit in it and you keep poking at the thing and then it has a reaction and bites you.[/quote]

So what if a man is provoked by a woman? Does that mean I can a strike a woman who antagonizes me?

How about this. My right to swing my arm ends at your nose regardless of your gender (save for self defense or any other criminally related applicable situation).

I’m sorry, I’m not too knowledgeable on forum lingo. What do you mean by ‘de-lurk’? Are you trying to say you don’t believe the story?

[quote]Tubbs wrote:
I’m sorry, I’m not too knowledgeable on forum lingo. What do you mean by ‘de-lurk’? Are you trying to say you don’t believe the story?
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http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lurk

4 posts in 3 years

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Tubbs wrote:
I’m sorry, I’m not too knowledgeable on forum lingo. What do you mean by ‘de-lurk’? Are you trying to say you don’t believe the story?
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http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lurk

4 posts in 3 years[/quote]

Then I’ll just have to make up for lost time, I suppose.

[quote]Tubbs wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Tubbs wrote:
I’m sorry, I’m not too knowledgeable on forum lingo. What do you mean by ‘de-lurk’? Are you trying to say you don’t believe the story?
[/quote]
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lurk

4 posts in 3 years[/quote]

Then I’ll just have to make up for lost time, I suppose.[/quote]

You are on a good start.

That is what the de-lurk means is to come out of the shadows.

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Grimlorn wrote:

If a woman hit me seriously. I’d probably hit her back even if it didn’t hurt. I think if women want equal rights then they should deal with the consequences that brings.

I’ve sparred with some women and that kind of changes your perception on hitting women. I was also taught you should never hit a woman and blah blah blah. But women aren’t as soft and fragile as men think. Most probably are but there are some strong ones out there that can handle themselves.

A lot of women though think they can hit a man anytime they want because it doesn’t physically hurt them. They also laugh when they see men get physically abused by a woman and think men who get beat up by women are pussies (because they don’t hit back and subsequently get their asses kicked), but when a woman gets her ass kicked by a man it’s because he’s an abusive asshole. No one ever asks what provoked the attack and whether the man was defending himself or was hit first.

You’re only classified as scum by dumb women and white knight fags. Sure there are a ton of them but who cares what they think.[/quote]

So because you’ve sparred with some ‘‘strong’’ women you think it’s absolutely okay to hit any other woman back, obviously harder – causing even more damage since your blow will be stronger than hers – if she’d hit you? Interesting. Yes, there are women who think they can fight/hit men, and yeah by all means, please hit them hard. Teach them a lesson. I’d said to those women, ‘want to hit a man? Cool, but be prepared to get hit back, much harder. Suck it in and do not fucking complain. You’ll deserve that beat down.’.

But then there’s always the other option; not hitting back and just walking away. I have more respect for men who have more restrain and who walk away from fiery situations, especially when the assailant is a weakling, petite femme. Hitting her back 'cos you wanna prove you ain’t a pussy or a ‘‘white knight fag’’ makes you a fucking bully. And even a bigger pussy. I mean, fighting someone your own size or ‘‘manly’’ strength won’t be as easy, right? Meh, won’t be my ass charged with assault, since nowadays, women mostly WIN in these kind of situations. Whether you’re in the wrong or right, touch a woman, find yourself slapped with a criminal record.

As a martial artist and ex-fighter, I’m really not the kind of woman who goes around and hits men first in a fit of anger. I’m much more ‘‘touch me/hit me first and you’ll regret it’’ kinda gal. I ALWAYS walk away when I’m fucking angry. I know I’m capable of horrible things when the adrenaline is pumping through my veins. And if the guy even tries to touch me, he’d better make sure that first blow kills me. 'cos right then, I won’t hold back. We will fight till death do us part. I will kill the motherfucker with any thing I can grab right there. And I know I can always claim self-defence and have a chance to WIN in court :wink: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: <<<------ See what I did there?

The moral of the story, men or women, just don’t hit anybody. Avoid physical confrontation. Life is much easier that way. And this is what I’ll teach my future son and daughter.

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I was curious what you thought since you train martial arts. I’m guessing you’ve done striking and sparred with guys before. I know you’ve mentioned Judo and BJJ.

I’m not saying I would hit a woman as hard as I could or anything. I’m more or less saying I would meet it with equal force or very similar. Sure I know how to throw a punch and could cave in most women’s faces if I hit them as hard as I could. I’m not saying I’d do that if I were defending myself against a woman. I also don’t see that as bullying. Yeah if I was threatening the woman and trying to hit her as hard as I could, I would agree it’s bullying, but I wouldn’t do that. I’d be in control. She came at me with a knife or something that could kill me, all bets are off after that, as adrenaline and the will to live would take over.

Since we’re mostly talking about relationships and physical abuse inside them, I wouldn’t date a woman that was like that. She’d be gone real quick.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
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Classic! This guy obviously doesn’t have any qualms about hitting women.

Chivalry is not dead, don’t hit women. If you’ve gotten yourself into a situation where a woman is hitting you, you’ve clearly not been handling the relationship or thinking very well. Walk away, dump the crazy chick, figure out how you let yourself go down such a fucked path.
Don’t repeat.

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
Chivalry is not dead, don’t hit women. If you’ve gotten yourself into a situation where a woman is hitting you, you’ve clearly not been handling the relationship or thinking very well. Walk away, dump the crazy chick, figure out how you let yourself go down such a fucked path.
Don’t repeat.[/quote]

That does little to alleviate the current problem of chick beating you over the head with a bowling pin. It’s easy to talk a big game of ‘never striking a woman’ when you aren’t in that situation, but it breaks down pretty fast when blood starts to flow.

Something else I’ve noticed: If a woman is beaten by her boyfriend, nobody will tell the woman that she deserves it because she made a bad character judgement, at least not publicly. But if a man is stabbed by his girlfriend, lots of people will tell him that it was his fault, that he should have been able to tell she was crazy from the beginning with his magical crazy detecting radar that all men are given at birth. For men, bad relationship decisions can apparently waive your right to bodily integrity.

Male bashing is still male bashing even when it comes from other men.