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[quote]BigRedMachine87 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]BigRedMachine87 wrote:

Money isn’t that big of a concern, I spent about a grand when I first got him because of parvo and I didn’t mind, I knew he would be worth it and he is. If a 60 dollar bag of dog food will add to his life and quality of life, I’ll pay it. I just want him to do as healthy for as long as possible. He’s three now, so I want to get it all figured out now.[/quote]

If that’s the case, what does he weigh? I spend about $70/month on Orijen kibble for a 160 lb dog.

Check out the frozen stuff Dr. Becker was talking aobut in the video.

Nature’s Variety Instinct raw at www.naturesvariety.com
Primal Pet Foods at www.primalpetfoods.com
Bravo www.bravorawdiet.com[/quote]

He weighs 58 pounds as of about a month ago.

I have no what breed he is. I got him from the pound when he was about five weeks old. They didn’t know what he was.

Some type of Shepard mix I guess.[/quote]

no brainer then with what you said about money. Get him a commercially prepared raw (if you want convenience that is)…

When we get another dog he/she will be raised on raw, but a dilemma I’m in is I like convenience, and I love Danes. But, bigger dog means more expensive food.

A 60# dog I would have no problem forking over the moeny for a commercial raw food, but our current 160# is a bit steep right now after paying for chemo with our last dog.

60# dog on raw commercial food should cost about $90-120/month would be my guess

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]BigRedMachine87 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]BigRedMachine87 wrote:

Money isn’t that big of a concern, I spent about a grand when I first got him because of parvo and I didn’t mind, I knew he would be worth it and he is. If a 60 dollar bag of dog food will add to his life and quality of life, I’ll pay it. I just want him to do as healthy for as long as possible. He’s three now, so I want to get it all figured out now.[/quote]

If that’s the case, what does he weigh? I spend about $70/month on Orijen kibble for a 160 lb dog.

Check out the frozen stuff Dr. Becker was talking aobut in the video.

Nature’s Variety Instinct raw at www.naturesvariety.com
Primal Pet Foods at www.primalpetfoods.com
Bravo www.bravorawdiet.com[/quote]

He weighs 58 pounds as of about a month ago.

I have no what breed he is. I got him from the pound when he was about five weeks old. They didn’t know what he was.

Some type of Shepard mix I guess.[/quote]

no brainer then with what you said about money. Get him a commercially prepared raw (if you want convenience that is)…

When we get another dog he/she will be raised on raw, but a dilemma I’m in is I like convenience, and I love Danes. But, bigger dog means more expensive food.

A 60# dog I would have no problem forking over the moeny for a commercial raw food, but our current 160# is a bit steep right now after paying for chemo with our last dog.

60# dog on raw commercial food should cost about $90-120/month would be my guess
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Out of all the raw foods what do you think would be the best.

He has some pretty bad gas at times, not much anymore, but I don’t want to add fuel to that fire if I can help it.

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[quote]BigRedMachine87 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]BigRedMachine87 wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]BigRedMachine87 wrote:

Money isn’t that big of a concern, I spent about a grand when I first got him because of parvo and I didn’t mind, I knew he would be worth it and he is. If a 60 dollar bag of dog food will add to his life and quality of life, I’ll pay it. I just want him to do as healthy for as long as possible. He’s three now, so I want to get it all figured out now.[/quote]

If that’s the case, what does he weigh? I spend about $70/month on Orijen kibble for a 160 lb dog.

Check out the frozen stuff Dr. Becker was talking aobut in the video.

Nature’s Variety Instinct raw at www.naturesvariety.com
Primal Pet Foods at www.primalpetfoods.com
Bravo www.bravorawdiet.com[/quote]

He weighs 58 pounds as of about a month ago.

I have no what breed he is. I got him from the pound when he was about five weeks old. They didn’t know what he was.

Some type of Shepard mix I guess.[/quote]

no brainer then with what you said about money. Get him a commercially prepared raw (if you want convenience that is)…

When we get another dog he/she will be raised on raw, but a dilemma I’m in is I like convenience, and I love Danes. But, bigger dog means more expensive food.

A 60# dog I would have no problem forking over the moeny for a commercial raw food, but our current 160# is a bit steep right now after paying for chemo with our last dog.

60# dog on raw commercial food should cost about $90-120/month would be my guess
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Out of all the raw foods what do you think would be the best.

He has some pretty bad gas at times, not much anymore, but I don’t want to add fuel to that fire if I can help it.[/quote]

they all have stellar reviews on www.dogfoodadvisor.com and the ingredients of them all are great as well. Bravo is a bit harder to find in my area, and Primal seems more expensive than nature’s variety.

I’ve used them all in the past in rotation, but nature’s variety seems to have the best price.

I would go with any of those 3 if they are available, and if more than one is available I’d go with a rotation of them, and be sure to rotate the meat source (chicken, beef, turkey, etc)

Just be sure to follow the directions on the label as far as introducing it along with proper handling/defrosting.

Good luck, so great to see a dog owner willing to spend money on quality dog food.

I’d also recommend checking out Dr. Becker or Dr. Goldstein in relation to vaccines for dogs. There are new recommendations out there and many vets still aren’t up to date either unknowingly or in fear of losing revenue.

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You can never go wrong with some meat (as long as it’s lean). Some cooked chicken or beef and some vegetables. Of course, the dry food is always a must, but some real food thrown in occasionally doesn’t hurt. I have two pitbulls and they love meat, vegetables, and as someone mentioned earlier, eggs (Sunday is always egg day for them).

So as long as the real food is pretty healthy, then there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.

CS

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

I have been very satisfied with Blue Buffalo Wilderness, for ages Eagle Pack was my mainstay but it was sold and am very suspect of the product since it was bought out by Wellpet who also produces Wellness which many of my dogs did awful on.

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there was a recall a few months back on BB. while their ingredients are better than many on the market, they’re still not ideal. Personally, I’d shop for a better brand.[/quote]

Really, a recall on Blue Buffalo Wilderness? FWIW it was a voluntary recall because of Vitamin D. Compared to your preferred Orijen, it compares equally both getting 5 stars from the above mentioned website.

Truncated review of Blue Buffalo:

Bottom line?
Blue Buffalo Wilderness Dog Food is a grain-free kibble using an abundance of poultry or salmon as its main sources of animal proteinâ?¦ thus earning the brand five stars.
Enthusiastically recommended.

Truncated review of Orijen:

Bottom line?
Orijen Adult is a meat-based dry dog food using an abundance of meat and fish meals as its main sources of animal proteinâ?¦ thus earning the brand five stars.
Enthusiastically recommended

seems pretty comparable to what you buy.

My main point is it has worked for my dogs, and I feel because Blue Buffalo has commercials and is readily available at many more stores than other brands, people get the notion that its not quality, when in fact its up their with the best such as your food that you recommended.

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[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
You can never go wrong with some meat (as long as it’s lean). Some cooked chicken or beef and some vegetables. Of course, the dry food is always a must, but some real food thrown in occasionally doesn’t hurt. I have two pitbulls and they love meat, vegetables, and as someone mentioned earlier, eggs (Sunday is always egg day for them).

So as long as the real food is pretty healthy, then there shouldn’t be too much of a problem.

CS[/quote]

Agreed. This is probably why we got away with the Purina kibble for so long. It was tempered with good wholesome people food. She was very healthy her whole life up to 15, and we just weren’t into boutique dog food. I think we really didn’t trust the small ‘never heard of them before’ dog brands, but now I can definitely understand being grain-free or very low grain. I had a recipe from Bark magagine for home-made chow that I would use occasionally. I’ll see if I can dig it up.

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This is Orijen…I’ve never bought it for my dogs as it’s pricey and I have seven dogs, so they’d eat it up a little too fast…but I kid you nit, it looks so good from the packaging that I really wish they made people food like it.

One time a few weeks ago I tried one piece of my dogs’ usual kibble and within a minute my tongue got a rash on it and was very sensitive for 4 or 5 days. What the fuck?

We give our dogs some diced up veggies and some pork or beef about 4 times a week, sprinkled on top of their usual food.

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Something else that I give my dog that I’ve not seen mentioned is Apple Cider Vinegar. I give our ABD 2 capfulls a day with his food. This helps with all kinds of problems from Fleas to Digestive Health.

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

I have been very satisfied with Blue Buffalo Wilderness, for ages Eagle Pack was my mainstay but it was sold and am very suspect of the product since it was bought out by Wellpet who also produces Wellness which many of my dogs did awful on.

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there was a recall a few months back on BB. while their ingredients are better than many on the market, they’re still not ideal. Personally, I’d shop for a better brand.[/quote]

Really, a recall on Blue Buffalo Wilderness? FWIW it was a voluntary recall because of Vitamin D. Compared to your preferred Orijen, it compares equally both getting 5 stars from the above mentioned website.

seems pretty comparable to what you buy.

My main point is it has worked for my dogs, and I feel because Blue Buffalo has commercials and is readily available at many more stores than other brands, people get the notion that its not quality, when in fact its up their with the best such as your food that you recommended.
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I never said it wasn’t quality. The recall worries me, as well as I can’t recall but one of their foods had a preservative I didn’t care for. Granted, it’s been a few weeks since I checked so my memory isn’t 100% on that part.

As far as “works for your dogs”… I fed Artemis for a few years which got stellar reviews and I thought it “worked” too. Come to find out their fish supplier added ethoxyquin in, though Artemis never disclosed that and changed suppliers in 2010. I would just check up on the company to make sure their suppliers are using quality ingredients as well and not adding preservatives that don’t have to be noted on the label or ingredients.

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I ended up buying a 11 pound bag on Blue wilderness natural evolutionary diet(chicken) and six 12 oz cans of blue wilderness tasty turkey stew(wet dog food).

I mixed half a can of the wet with some of the dry chicken and some of the purina I already have and he ate it all up. Seemed to love it.

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My husky just ran out of food so I went and picked up a 25 pound bag of blue buffalo for $42. He seems to love it. My little shih tzu also gave the food a try and she liked it. So we will see how it fairs.

What do you guys think about vaccinations and flea medication? My dogs are due for rabies again this year(2.5 year old and 1.5 year old). Also the poison I put on their back for fleas and ticks kind of bothers me.

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[quote]Hellfrost wrote:
My husky just ran out of food so I went and picked up a 25 pound bag of blue buffalo for $42. He seems to love it. My little shih tzu also gave the food a try and she liked it. So we will see how it fairs.

What do you guys think about vaccinations and flea medication? My dogs are due for rabies again this year(2.5 year old and 1.5 year old). Also the poison I put on their back for fleas and ticks kind of bothers me. [/quote]

I’ve used the front line drops on Shadow and it has worked well. I check him for fleas weekly and never have any problems.

I don’t care for putting some chemical on his back, but it’s a better alternative than him being eaten up by fleas and ticks.

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I used Front Line for years, and while it works flawlessly, I won’t be using it anymore. I’ll research a more natural method.

Vaccines, Dr. Becker has some vids on the subject, and other vets believe that most core vaccines are good for life once done.

The rabies I didn’t keep our one dog up to date on (used to be required yearly, some states are at every 3 yrs now), but studies seem to show it protects for 5-7 yrs.

So, I didn’t give our Dane the rabies since a pup, she was 8 yrs old and got another one, 3 months later she had lymphoma. I can’t speculate as to what caused the cancer (poor dog feed, frontline, rabies vaccine, heartworm meds). Just started the heartworm meds with the 2nd vaccine as well.

One of those things lead to it, I’ll never know. But, I’ll be making different choices for our current 7.5 yr old Dane and future dogs.

Check out a book by Dr. Martin Goldstein, he’s a holistic vet. Or like said check out Dr. Becker’s vaccine vids on youtube.

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[quote]atypical1 wrote:

And Bonez - Brocolli? Do they get gas from that? I can’t imagine Joey getting near veggies. If it’s not meat then he doesn’t want much to do with it.

james
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My staffie goes completely insane for broccoli. He gets excited for other treats but no where close to what its like with broccoli.

He doesnt get gas but I only give him a piece or two at a time. Like the size of a half dollar around. Steamed broccoli.

My dog doesnt really fart to begin with so I dont know. I actually cant think of a time that he has farted which is pretty strange I guess.

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my ‘vegan’ staffie lol

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Since we’re posting pics…here’s me and Rosalinda.

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Also I’ll add that if you’re a real pet lover, or animal lover, you will not mock my dog. I used to say that I’d only want a big dog like a German Shepherd or Husky…but once you get a dog, no matter what size, you realize why dogs are man’s best friend.
I’ve learned to love all animals much more since I got a dog.

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yeah, I much prefer big dogs, Danes especially, but everything costs a ton more for them. makes me want to consider a smaller dog next time

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Dog 1

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Dog 2