Don’t worry, if you find yourself needing it there’s always: “Hate something long enough and you will grow to love it.”
Still can’t believe my wife fell, and continues to keep falling, for it.
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Nope.
At least, I don’t think so.
Do we really know who we are?
Or do we continually fool ourselves into believing what we want to believe?
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This.
speaking of things that suck, is it just me or does anyone else just get fed up with eating all the time and the same shit day in day out…
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I think training would suck for all the guys chasing numbers for specific lifts with “strength programs” if I were to make them all do bro splits with none of these lifts lol.
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I missed a couple replies here, so apologies if anyone’s already said this, but I think we could extrapolate “training” to include “life”. It’s going to be on a sliding scale, depending on personalities, but overall, in my opinion, life needs to suck, at times, for the best results. I know for me, the more I gravitate towards things that I enjoy and do with ease, the worse things look in the long term. I’ve gotten the best results from the things that I’ve been most uncomfortable doing, and one need look no further than the good ol’ US of A to see what happens when people get too comfortable.
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Is this the Superego thing lol? Can’t remember this shit.
I once swam into a fucking sewage pool which no one from the ASPCA was willing to because the ongoing construction had rendered what was under the water too dangerous to predict to rescue a kitten stuck in a crevice and had no way to get out. I have no idea how it managed to get there. I could easy have cut myself up or gotten stuck and drowned because of the unknown types of debris under there.
Swimming in sewage with the real danger of drowning sucks. Fucking duh lol.
However, after that I didn’t feel proud about myself at all because I knew the decision to do so was made because it would have sucked harder to live with myself if I didn’t do it. That’s not to say endorphins didn’t kick in which did make me feel good for a some time.
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That would be a crappy way to go.
You must really like cats.
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I must be an Ahole cause if it were me that poor cat would have drowned for sure.
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If I heard it cry there’s a good chance I’d be jumping in. I do really like cats. Total softie.
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I dunno. I pondered going in for a while but instinct overcame logic. The inaction of the ASPCA people at the scene also ROYALLY pissed me off. If I had died, my family and my own cats would be pretty fucked.
In hindsight, it was a purely selfish/self-serving act.
Did any good come out of it. Of course. Cat survived. Some people watching were probably inspired by the act and may have started doing a little bit more for animal welfare.
Was this my intent?
No. Even going into the most minute things, my thoughts, which dictated my actions, were to not let the cat die. It’s survival was a by-product of this; an inevitable outcome when I had succeeded what I set out to accomplish. If this makes no sense, just accept that I’m a cynical fuck lol.
We’re living in The Matrix.
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But seriously, it’s like training. You can “enjoy” even the toughest training if it serves as an outlet for certain things like frustration or coping with anxiety, to name a few. That’s YOUR objective. Getting higher numbers or a better body would be a by-product of this if the type of training you choose gives you such results.
If such results are also part of your objective and your type of training isn’t conducive for them, you may end up having to change up stuff that you enjoy doing to attain them, which could probably make training suck depending on what you do.
I don’t enjoy training nor is it any form of outlet for me. So it sucks for ME. BUT I like the results. Not having these results would suck even more than training so I do it. That’s MY objective.
I think the main point is, if results are the end goal, does one know how to push him/herself hard enough to attain the desired results? If this part is lacking, how do you mentally push yourself to improve? Would going to the extent of pretending you’re “going to war” aid you? If so, go ahead and fucking do it. Do whatever it takes. It’s the objective that counts.
Just don’t fucking shadow box beside me.
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I think people fail to recognize the difference between doing hard things and doing things that make them profoundly uncomfortable.
And I think that’s why most people live a hard and difficult life but fail to truly better their lot in a meaningful fashion.
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I’d best describe my training journey as undulating periodized suckiness 
I’d say at least one dimension of my training kinda sucks each phase I’m on, and once it doesn’t suck anymore or I achieve the intended goal, I switch to another thing being the primary suck component. For instance, maybe I do a leg focused spec and I’m squatting 3-4x a week submax, so no given session is making me feel dead; however, I have to warmup properly and mentally prep for squatting more frequently. This takes it’s toll after so many weeks and I move on to something else.
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This…
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This is gold 
Honestly when it comes down to it, I relish in the moments where I can push myself to this point. Most training is mundane and “good enough” So I look forward to the opportunities where I can cut loose and push myself until I am a puddle on the floor. Lifting is a mechanism for me dealing with frustration, anxiety, etc… So I generally feel like the good enough to push progress sessions are infact the opposite. Even though I know I need to moderate it and the few times I redline it are when I make the real progress. I know that’s not true it’s just how it feels
Had one today and even though I felt like hell and wanted to vomit, it also felt extremely rewarding
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For you maybe the mundane stuff kinda sucks but maybe the accumulation of that gives you the results ?
I definitely agree. The accumulated good enough sessions are what drives long term progress, I accept and understand this. For me its becoming a balance of these sessions that are good enough and finding a good opportunity to redline it. If I do too many good enough sessions without a chance to push myself hard I start veering off program because I am bored. Fortunately all my training blocks end with a heavy AMRAP, which is usually enough to scratch that itch. I will be honest I day dream about training for a lunge mile again. haha I have other crazy ideas brewing around in my head, wondering when I will have a chance to try them out.
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I like this subject. Its a really good question and one that I think everyone needs to take note of. I mean depending on the out come some people are going to be very upset. Either the lazy guys that want easy results will be told - sorry its tome to break a sweat. OR Someones got to tell the guys that ran Deepwater it wasn’t worth it.
I’ve really given this some thought and I’ve come up with:
Yes.
I have a mate that every time he get a bit fat does 5x5, drops the weight and stops. He gets to 75/80kg 5x5 squats and back into a 34inch waist and is happy.
That is not hard work.
Like wise if there are “hard gainers” out there it stands to reason there are “easy gainers” also. Guys that gain an inch on the arms every time they think about lifting a weight. So is it feasible that some guys/girls get a good body or level of strength easily. Yes.
BUT.
This is a low level of achievement. Even those that are “good” compared to others are poor compered to their potential.
And the question is “Best” results. Best results means optimal for you.
The long and short is if you want to to reach YOUR potential the harder you work the closer you will get to it. And hard work is kinda sucky. No one ever wanted to do tabata front squats. But it does get you big and strong and lean.
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