Does that really describe you, given what you’ve posted about your life? It’s very easy to derail that train, isn’t it?
Sometimes opinions are uneducated. You’ll say “men secluded menstruating women because…patriarchy.” It’s sort of a blanket statement that doesn’t take into account anything other than what you know. I didn’t necessarily disagree but provided an exemption and you don’t take it any further once told something else.
So…like you’ve done? Haha.
This is kind of a meathead forum. Most of the threads are pretty general and opinionated, and I typically enjoy the back and forth. Most of the meatheads I banter with are wickedly intelligent and well rounded.
I consider myself a meathead.
It isn’t a peer reviewed journal requiring citing of sources and establishing credibility.
I am sorry if you felt ignored - you’ve mentioned it twice in this thread. It’s nothing personal. I just didn’t feel it warranted a response.
On occasion, I have been triggered and have responded. I am trying to be better. I am not perfect. In fact, I am not even below average.
It is too bad that you have chosen to ignore the valiant effort of @twojarslave to get this thread back on track and to mitigate the vitriol.
I would suggest that we all give it a rest and get back to talking about body count rather than othering each other.
The Israelites also deemed a man who had nocturnal emissions unclean and he would have to go outside of the camp to clean himself. After battle, the soldiers were considered unclean, as they touched corpses, and had to wait seven days, I believe, before being allowed back into the camp. It’s easy to cry patriarchy but scholars believe these prohibitions have a practical, hygienic and psychological, aspect as well as spiritual.
Of course, it was a patriarchal society but patriarchy is about power structure. Patriarchy gives men the authority to tell women what to do but it doesn’t explain why they tell women to do certain things.
Someone with an English degree should know the correct meaning of the Other. Didn’t you read Benito Cereno?
Thanks man!
Don’t forget humble though. I’m all about that humility & shit.™
I don’t have an English degree per se. I have a Bachelor’s degree in Speech Communication.
I have an MA in English, Cross-Cultural Language and Diversity certificate (California Teaching Credential), and an MFA in Creative Writing.
I have also been trained in Massage Therapy, Reiki, Kundalini Yoga, and Holotropic/Transformational Breathwork.
My use of othering has nothing to do with Melville - it’s a spiritual reference to the practice of focusing on the differences between cultural groups rather than recognizing the oneness of humanity.
My rhetorical questions pointing out your chimeric identification of yourself were meant to invite you to think about our commonalities rather than our differences.
I’ve not read “Benito Cereno.” While I greatly enjoyed “Bartleby the Scrivener,” I find Melville verbose and overly indulgent. I prefer Hemingway and Poe for short stories.
As far as continuing this discussion on this thread, I will quote Bartleby, “I prefer not to.”
If you insist on spewing vitriol, please do it on my thread, The Pursuit of Mythical Gains
Cheers!
And EQ - you have a high EQ score in my book.
Thank you.
When I choose to apply it, I do ok for the most part, but it does take some effort.
Progress, not perfection. Right?
I wasn’t personally hurt. But I prefer having some back and forth rather than ending discussion after one disagreement.
I’m not too worried. This thread has gone off track multiple times. I expect that to continue.
Courage to change the things I can - I feel you.
Cue controlling female sexuality - systemically
Yet we now know if a virus was contracted a seven day incubation period won’t matter. We also know how to mitigate risk, because we know what a virus is instead of blaming illness on a punishment from an angry character. Sex doesn’t have to be a voodoo practice anymore, so the desire to control female access to it is coming from something else.
I would assume that Jews today are aware of this.
And where is the desire to control how men feel coming from?
Labeling an ancient culture as patriarchal, to reduce it to one construct, idea or practice, is not othering? Where is the recognition of the oneness there?
Humans are defined by their commonalities as well as their differences. There is nothing wrong with having differences. Tyrannical authoritarian (a redundant expression) governments seek homogeneity.
I will not engage.
Just a reminder - don’t be a thread killer.
There are things that aren’t great for women too regarding women’s sexual freedom (especially in the past). Being a single mother was even more difficult at times in the past compared to now for example.
I don’t think we should regulate female sexuality, but there are tradeoffs from it, and recognizing those shouldn’t be seen as being oppressive (which it often is).
I also wouldn’t call some men having a preference for a chaste woman as systematic oppression of women.
I don’t really care. The forum doesn’t revolve around you.
It’s probably a graveyard anyway.