Doctors Planning Exit Under Obamacare

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
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My personal opinion is I would feel really bad if I was doing that…but my opinion doesn’t rule the world.[/quote]

But your opinion is ruling the opposition to this.

No matter what, irrelevant of the issue, you always want the very best medical professional treating you. You may not get that person, but you should always strive for that.

Aim high from the start, going from the bottom of the barrel from day 1 leaves you more chance for problems. [/quote]

Dude, get serious. The doctor still has to anesthetize so this idea that the doctor is not around needs to end. This is a simple procedure that qualified assistants can do and if the doctor is there, there is no decreased standard of care.

Stop the rhetoric. You could play this same game with any topic by only trying to point out possible negatives.

You clearly have an agenda…so you want to make sure every incident matches that viewpoint.
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The anesthesiologist does not do the procudure what are you talking about. Sure a doctor is there but he is not trained for that. He/she is trained to keep the patient under. [/quote]

Anesthesiologist? For local? The doctor is the one anesthetizing.

It kinda helps to know the procedure a little before you rant about it.[/quote]

Yes you should try it mr know it all

First trimester are local. Second are deep anesthesia or even general and 3rd trimester are general.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
C’mon, Professor. Wouldn’t be much fun arguing on these forums if everyone knew what the fuck they were talking about, now would it?[/quote]

It would if X would kindly also back off spewing random incorrect statements since he is the one that loves to do most of it then argue even though he is wrong.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
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…and women do die from the procedure. So I would suggest 51-52% don’t survive.[/quote]

At about the same rate people die from having a tooth pulled.
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What?! Where did you get this statistic? A tiny number of people die from hypoxia or other complications of anesthesia, or from infection, but it can be nowhere near half of all patients. [/quote]

I believe he was comparing how many women die during the abortion procedure vs how many die from getting a tooth pulled.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
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…and women do die from the procedure. So I would suggest 51-52% don’t survive.[/quote]

At about the same rate people die from having a tooth pulled.
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What?! Where did you get this statistic? A tiny number of people die from hypoxia or other complications of anesthesia, or from infection, but it can be nowhere near half of all patients. [/quote]

I believe he was comparing how many women die during the abortion procedure vs how many die from getting a tooth pulled.
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Aha. I thought he was implying that the death rate from tooth extraction was 51% or higher. That makes more sense.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

I believe he was comparing how many women die during the abortion procedure vs how many die from getting a tooth pulled.

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I agree but what difference does it make? The fact of the matter still stands that abortion is a “medical procedure” in which half the people receiving the procedure die.
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You’ve got to remember Push, a lot of the people for abrotion don’t see it that way. Half the, “People,” Don’t die. A parasite is just removed, it’s sad really.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

I believe he was comparing how many women die during the abortion procedure vs how many die from getting a tooth pulled.

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I agree but what difference does it make? The fact of the matter still stands that abortion is a “medical procedure” in which half the people receiving the procedure die.
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You’ve got to remember Push, a lot of the people for abrotion don’t see it that way. Half the, “People,” Don’t die. A parasite is just removed, it’s sad really. [/quote]

Which has what to do with the clarification I made?

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

I believe he was comparing how many women die during the abortion procedure vs how many die from getting a tooth pulled.

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I agree but what difference does it make? The fact of the matter still stands that abortion is a “medical procedure” in which half the people receiving the procedure die.
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You’ve got to remember Push, a lot of the people for abrotion don’t see it that way. Half the, “People,” Don’t die. A parasite is just removed, it’s sad really. [/quote]

Which has what to do with the clarification I made?
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Nothing at all.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

I believe he was comparing how many women die during the abortion procedure vs how many die from getting a tooth pulled.

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I agree but what difference does it make? The fact of the matter still stands that abortion is a “medical procedure” in which half the people receiving the procedure die.
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If you agree, then you know what difference it made.

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If you people don’t see that this is just the first “procedure” that will be performed by a non-physician, then you are clueless.

This is the “foot in the door” process of downgrading the quality of our medical care.

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Trader Joe’s to drop healthcare coverage for part-time workers under Obamacare: Memo

After extending health care coverage to many of its part-time employees for years, Trader Joe’s has told workers who log fewer than 30 hours a week that they will need to find insurance on the Obamacare exchanges next year, according to a confidential memo from the grocer’s chief executive.

In the memo to staff dated Aug. 30, Trader Joe’s CEO Dan Bane said the company will cut part-timers a check for $500 in January and help guide them toward finding a new plan under the Affordable Care Act. The company will continue to offer health coverage to workers who carry 30 hours or more on average.

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Looks like Conservatives are actually putting forth a bill to actually replace Obamacare. This one looks pretty interesting.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Looks like Conservatives are actually putting forth a bill to actually replace Obamacare. This one looks pretty interesting.[/quote]

Dear God…I would only be interested if this were a bill created by someone who didn’t give a shit what party they were claiming and decided to use their bran and heart the right way.

Football fan politics is dumb as shit.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Looks like Conservatives are actually putting forth a bill to actually replace Obamacare. This one looks pretty interesting.[/quote]

Would of been nice if this had happened 2 years ago, but better late than never I suppose.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Looks like Conservatives are actually putting forth a bill to actually replace Obamacare. This one looks pretty interesting.[/quote]

Do you have a link to the bill? What makes it interesting, that pre-existing conditions will no longer be covered? Again.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Looks like Conservatives are actually putting forth a bill to actually replace Obamacare. This one looks pretty interesting.[/quote]

Do you have a link to the bill? What makes it interesting, that pre-existing conditions will no longer be covered? Again.
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Do you think mandatory waiving of pre-existing conditions exceptions is the way to go?[/quote]

I’d like to see the actual bill too, but the article does say, “The bill provides $25 billion over 10 years to enhance the state pools, so an individual with pre-existing conditions can go and buy at market rates.”

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^Mean’t to quote Testy not Push. I obviously did not address Push’s question at all…