Doctors Planning Exit Under Obamacare

Because I used the word “Imagine” in my previous post?

Because I was married to a Japanese woman?

What are you talking about?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

I see what you did there. Clever.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

My personal opinion is I would feel really bad if I was doing that…but my opinion doesn’t rule the world.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

My personal opinion is I would feel really bad if I was doing that…but my opinion doesn’t rule the world.[/quote]

But your opinion is ruling the opposition to this.

No matter what, irrelevant of the issue, you always want the very best medical professional treating you. You may not get that person, but you should always strive for that.

Aim high from the start, going from the bottom of the barrel from day 1 leaves you more chance for problems.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

My personal opinion is I would feel really bad if I was doing that…but my opinion doesn’t rule the world.[/quote]

But your opinion is ruling the opposition to this.

No matter what, irrelevant of the issue, you always want the very best medical professional treating you. You may not get that person, but you should always strive for that.

Aim high from the start, going from the bottom of the barrel from day 1 leaves you more chance for problems. [/quote]

Dude, get serious. The doctor still has to anesthetize so this idea that the doctor is not around needs to end. This is a simple procedure that qualified assistants can do and if the doctor is there, there is no decreased standard of care.

Stop the rhetoric. You could play this same game with any topic by only trying to point out possible negatives.

You clearly have an agenda…so you want to make sure every incident matches that viewpoint.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

I see what you did there. Clever. [/quote]

Thanks, I like to get my jabs in now and again about the subject.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

My personal opinion is I would feel really bad if I was doing that…but my opinion doesn’t rule the world.[/quote]

Yeah, pretty sure we are on the same page on this one.

A New York Times analysis by University of Chicago economics professor Casey B. Mulligan finds that Obamacare’s impact on nationwide marginal tax rates will be 12 times greater than the rate increases under Romneycare in Massachusetts.

Professor, can my cleaning lady also fix that ^ problem ?

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

Professor, can my cleaning lady also fix that ^ problem ?[/quote]

Sure, fire her and you have the money you need.

Sucks for her, but she voted for Bama anyway.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

It is actually a bit higher. Thinking of twins, and women do die from the procedure. So I would suggest 51-52% don’t survive.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

…and women do die from the procedure. So I would suggest 51-52% don’t survive.[/quote]

At about the same rate people die from having a tooth pulled.

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

…and women do die from the procedure. So I would suggest 51-52% don’t survive.[/quote]

At about the same rate people die from having a tooth pulled.
[/quote]

Pro X is there something you are not telling us about your practice?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

My personal opinion is I would feel really bad if I was doing that…but my opinion doesn’t rule the world.[/quote]

But your opinion is ruling the opposition to this.

No matter what, irrelevant of the issue, you always want the very best medical professional treating you. You may not get that person, but you should always strive for that.

Aim high from the start, going from the bottom of the barrel from day 1 leaves you more chance for problems. [/quote]

Dude, get serious. The doctor still has to anesthetize so this idea that the doctor is not around needs to end. This is a simple procedure that qualified assistants can do and if the doctor is there, there is no decreased standard of care.

Stop the rhetoric. You could play this same game with any topic by only trying to point out possible negatives.

You clearly have an agenda…so you want to make sure every incident matches that viewpoint.
[/quote]

The anesthesiologist does not do the procudure what are you talking about. Sure a doctor is there but he is not trained for that. He/she is trained to keep the patient under.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
What makes you think this will stop at abortion ?

You really think this type of stuff is not going to happen with other procedures ?[/quote]

Not procedures that require years of surgical experience to perform. I think the issue is some of you didn’t know that assistants could be credentialed to do quite a bit as it is.

This is an abortion. This is not brain surgery…or a kidney transplant. It takes the use of a vacuum. No offense, but your cleaning lady could probably learn this technique.[/quote]

Surgeries are easy breezy right. So you are saying you would choose to have someone who has trained less do a procudure on yourself rather than someone with more experience and expertise ?

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
What makes you think this will stop at abortion ?

You really think this type of stuff is not going to happen with other procedures ?[/quote]

Not procedures that require years of surgical experience to perform. I think the issue is some of you didn’t know that assistants could be credentialed to do quite a bit as it is.

This is an abortion. This is not brain surgery…or a kidney transplant. It takes the use of a vacuum. No offense, but your cleaning lady could probably learn this technique.[/quote]

Surgeries are easy breezy right. So you are saying you would choose to have someone who has trained less do a procudure on yourself rather than someone with more experience and expertise ?[/quote]

Yes, that is what he is saying, in the name of the collective benefit of everyone.

Problem is, when you lay down on the gurney knowing you are getting “the 1st loser” cutting you open, “the will of the people” doesn’t shoot to the forefront of your mind.

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

…and women do die from the procedure. So I would suggest 51-52% don’t survive.[/quote]

At about the same rate people die from having a tooth pulled.
[/quote]

What?! Where did you get this statistic? A tiny number of people die from hypoxia or other complications of anesthesia, or from infection, but it can be nowhere near half of all patients.

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Abortion, when induced in the developed world in accordance with local law, is among the safest procedures in medicine[/quote]

I don’t know. Only 50% of the people involved in receiving the procedure tend to survive.
[/quote]

My personal opinion is I would feel really bad if I was doing that…but my opinion doesn’t rule the world.[/quote]

But your opinion is ruling the opposition to this.

No matter what, irrelevant of the issue, you always want the very best medical professional treating you. You may not get that person, but you should always strive for that.

Aim high from the start, going from the bottom of the barrel from day 1 leaves you more chance for problems. [/quote]

Dude, get serious. The doctor still has to anesthetize so this idea that the doctor is not around needs to end. This is a simple procedure that qualified assistants can do and if the doctor is there, there is no decreased standard of care.

Stop the rhetoric. You could play this same game with any topic by only trying to point out possible negatives.

You clearly have an agenda…so you want to make sure every incident matches that viewpoint.
[/quote]

The anesthesiologist does not do the procudure what are you talking about. Sure a doctor is there but he is not trained for that. He/she is trained to keep the patient under. [/quote]

Anesthesiologist? For local? The doctor is the one anesthetizing.

It kinda helps to know the procedure a little before you rant about it.

C’mon, Professor. Wouldn’t be much fun arguing on these forums if everyone knew what the fuck they were talking about, now would it?