“I do not use it, and I think people who do are pussies.”
I agree. Same goes for straps, gloves and belts.
When I first started training in high school, my coaches told me they were called bitch pads… And my high school could never afford belts and straps, so I guess I agree with the sentiment above.
The only thing good that came from the pad is when i take two of them and put them on the bar when i curl to simulate a fat bar.
Last time I checked, every standing calf machine ever made has PADS FOR YOUR SHOULDERS, and I NEVER heard anyone being called a pussy for using that machine.
Hell, why aren’t all benches, flat and incline, made WITHOUT padding? Then NOBODY would have to fear being called a pussy.
This is a stupid thread. We’re bodybuilders, dammit! We fancy a future of standing onstage with other dudes… all dressed in nothing but little posing trunks and a layer of oil… and you guys are having a hard time with a little cushion on a barbell?
Get real!
Sounds like a big pissing contest.
I love when I’m training someone and they say “hey where is that pad, the bar always hurts my back, like right here” Hahaha, I say oh sure let me get it but Im thinking what do you think you are built different than any other person, we are all the same biatch!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Last time I checked, every standing calf machine ever made has PADS FOR YOUR SHOULDERS, and I NEVER heard anyone being called a pussy for using that machine.
Hell, why aren’t all benches, flat and incline, made WITHOUT padding? Then NOBODY would have to fear being called a pussy.
This is a stupid thread. We’re bodybuilders, dammit! We fancy a future of standing onstage with other dudes… all dressed in nothing but little posing trunks and a layer of oil… and you guys are having a hard time with a little cushion on a barbell?
Get real!
Sounds like a big pissing contest.
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ROFL. Exactly what I was thinking…
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
I ventured out of power lifting land to chime in on this one. When I first started squatting I used the pad a few times but it made the bar feel very unsecured on my back and I was afraid to put much weight on the bar.
When I took it off and had the bar directly on my back, there was a better connection and the weight went up much faster. As for the comments about putting meat on your back, I weigh 123lbs and maxed 315. You don’t need a super thick back. You just need to work on bar position. Try a narrower hand width. It forces your shoulder blades together and creates a nice shelf for the bar.[/quote]
I have a client that reminds me of you, she is 5’2" 105, benches 105, back squats maybe 160, has maxed 190x4 on dead, can dip with a 45lb plate and can do 17 pullups… we are working on her hamstring flexibility, that is the only thing holding her back right now. When that comes around I expect her numbers go through the roof.
Your biggest problem is probably your infraspinatus, usually that will cause a problem and your shoulders will not allow you to put the weight where it should be, so the bar IS on your neck. Fix your infraspinatus problem and you should be fine.
Nah man, I only front squat.
[quote]Level 0 wrote:
“I do not use it, and I think people who do are pussies.”
I agree. Same goes for straps, gloves and belts.[/quote]
Dude, I’m not doing rows to work grip. And fuck rack chins without straps. I can pull much more than I can hold comfortably.
When I’m trying to feel my lats working the last think I want to think about is my grip and how it is doing holding on to something.
Straps have their place.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Level 0 wrote:
“I do not use it, and I think people who do are pussies.”
I agree. Same goes for straps, gloves and belts.
Dude, I’m not doing rows to work grip. And fuck rack chins without straps. I can pull much more than I can hold comfortably.
When I’m trying to feel my lats working the last think I want to think about is my grip and how it is doing holding on to something.
Straps have their place. [/quote]
And so do belts!
When you don’t know what you are doing and you put the bar up on your spine… it hurts and you want to use it. Especially when you are young and skinny. Drop it down just below your neck and that should help. If you are really skinny like when i started squating it might hurt a bit but not like when its on your neck.
Suck it up and squats will help you build up some meat and it won’t hurt.
I’m going to go weld little bits of scrap metal all over my bar so I can be a real man.
Lol. Most of you are assholes, but I appreciate the advice. (seriously… about most of you being assholes AND about the advice.)
[quote]Level 0 wrote:
“I do not use it, and I think people who do are pussies.”
I agree. Same goes for straps, gloves and belts.[/quote]
Yeah look at this pussy using a belt and gloves! This pussy even has gloves with built in straps on them and a belt with his name on it!
I like what that dude said about getting a better squat with the bar directly touching your back as opposed to transfering through the pad. I think it makes sense. I’ve always used the pussy pad, even when I squat my bodyweight ass to grass 20x. I gotta try without it. Pussy pad is a good name.
Also, I think some people’s spines stick out more, so maybe some people could never do it pain free. Weightlifting should not hurt. Kill your muscles, don’t hurt you body.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Last time I checked, every standing calf machine ever made has PADS FOR YOUR SHOULDERS, and I NEVER heard anyone being called a pussy for using that machine.
Hell, why aren’t all benches, flat and incline, made WITHOUT padding? Then NOBODY would have to fear being called a pussy.
This is a stupid thread. We’re bodybuilders, dammit! We fancy a future of standing onstage with other dudes… all dressed in nothing but little posing trunks and a layer of oil… and you guys are having a hard time with a little cushion on a barbell?
Get real!
Sounds like a big pissing contest.
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I agree, people should stop trying to act all hardcore by not using training aids, more likely than not the people rubbishing all these training aids do so because they dont lift heavy enough weights to actually realise their benefits
[quote]Anonymas wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Last time I checked, every standing calf machine ever made has PADS FOR YOUR SHOULDERS, and I NEVER heard anyone being called a pussy for using that machine.
Hell, why aren’t all benches, flat and incline, made WITHOUT padding? Then NOBODY would have to fear being called a pussy.
This is a stupid thread. We’re bodybuilders, dammit! We fancy a future of standing onstage with other dudes… all dressed in nothing but little posing trunks and a layer of oil… and you guys are having a hard time with a little cushion on a barbell?
Get real!
Sounds like a big pissing contest.
I agree, people should stop trying to act all hardcore by not using training aids, more likely than not the people rubbishing all these training aids do so because they dont lift heavy enough weights to actually realise their benefits
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I don’t think anyone would knock a genuine training aid but for most of us, the back seems to be made for holding a barbell so its just an imagined problem to need to pad the bar.
Now front-squats are a different matter - here is where I could do with a training aid. You should see the filthy yellow bruising I get across my delts from front-squats. The pain was so bad last session from existing bruising that I tried to turn a hoody into a pad and all I succeeded in doing was causing instability that allowed the bar to roll forward mid squat on to my upper arm giving me even more spectacularly ugly bruises. Bah.
[quote]Kvetch wrote:
Anonymas wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Last time I checked, every standing calf machine ever made has PADS FOR YOUR SHOULDERS, and I NEVER heard anyone being called a pussy for using that machine.
Hell, why aren’t all benches, flat and incline, made WITHOUT padding? Then NOBODY would have to fear being called a pussy.
This is a stupid thread. We’re bodybuilders, dammit! We fancy a future of standing onstage with other dudes… all dressed in nothing but little posing trunks and a layer of oil… and you guys are having a hard time with a little cushion on a barbell?
Get real!
Sounds like a big pissing contest.
I agree, people should stop trying to act all hardcore by not using training aids, more likely than not the people rubbishing all these training aids do so because they dont lift heavy enough weights to actually realise their benefits
I don’t think anyone would knock a genuine training aid but for most of us, the back seems to be made for holding a barbell so its just an imagined problem to need to pad the bar.
Now front-squats are a different matter - here is where I could do with a training aid. You should see the filthy yellow bruising I get across my delts from front-squats. The pain was so bad last session from existing bruising that I tried to turn a hoody into a pad and all I succeeded in doing was causing instability that allowed the bar to roll forward mid squat on to my upper arm giving me even more spectacularly ugly bruises. Bah.
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You probably dont have the bar in the right position, or you must be using a cross grip instead of a clean grip.
Yup, cross grip. I used to use clean grip and I never had the problem but the wrists were not happy at higher weights. Its fair to say that in both cases, its a form issue on the last rep where there is sometimes a slight forward dip that puts pressure on delts\wrists.
for me its not about manning up or being hard, its about being safe. using the pad forces you to hold the bar in an awkward way.you either rest the bar on your neck, very bad, or you fuck your shoulders trying to hold onto the bar while positioning it proprely on your back.
i think pads are a good way of finding out if a trainer is any good. if they say you should use a pad while barely looking at the way you squat, dont listen to them ever again.
Squatting is uncomfortable, but its only for a very short period of time uncomfortable, do it properly, not doing it properly could lead to you feeling uncomfortable or even worse nothing for a long long time.