Do You Still Believe in the United States?

I’m reading between the lines, so correct me if i’m wrong, but what i’m hearing is you believe the constitutional rights and the unity of the country are under threat?

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Thats a very good synopsis.

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I thought burger racism land was intended to be a melting pot.

It never was. That’s a myth.

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Fun fact

Where I live the "liberal party’’ is the right wing party. If while talking politics you call someone a liberal the insinuation is often that they are a supporter of the liberal (Aussie right wing) party.

I know Antisemites who funnily enough think America puts Jews up on pedestals “America is a jew loving country. Jews live supreme in America”

Meanwhile American college students are blocked from entering campuses, classrooms, dorm rooms, cafeterias. Harvard gets sued for rampant, systemic antisemitism spanning back decades… had to be SUPOENAD because they wouldn’t provide documents/records of past events relevant to the case… The Palestinian encampments that full of Hamas supporters… Politicians like Majorie Taylor Green and Ilhan Omar… But America has a hard on for the Jews… suuuuuurrrrreeee

Which ones and what politicians are standing exactly?

This isn’t even true anymore. No politicians stand up for anything other than their own greed (at the national level at least). Rise of christian nationalism (hard right) and refusal to believe science (hard left - for example the leading professional group for plastic surgeons in the US came out against sex change surgeries for minors - the left vilified them. Hard right also dislikes science such as climate change).

Everyone is out for themselves and the middle class no longer exists (nor should it really, it was a falsehood perpetuated by those who wanted more power - and it 70 years later it worked).

US works more hours than any other “western” country and by all objective measures is worse off, except maybe for GPD per capita (which doesn’t contribute to quality of life, only lines pockets of those who have enough). The median income is roughly 54K a year (as of 2022). In my area, that’s hardly enough to afford a decent place to live and buy food for the year, nevermind all the necessary extras (to functionally exist in today’s world) such as an internet access, car payments and upkeep, insurance, etc…

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I think it depends on what the definition of “how it should be” is.

At any point in history generations could look back and bemoan changes, especially around monumental events like the Industrial Revolution where we literally shifted our archetype from an agrarian society to an urban manufacturing society.

Personally I’m not too concerned with whatever the prevailing social ideology of the day is. I’m content to live my life my way and leave my neighbor alone, and I expect the same. I don’t need external validation.

Loss of sovereignty is a potential objective concern for me, however. It does seem that we have a number of policies in place or proposed to dissolve standing from a legal, functional standpoint.

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As an aside, I’m glad the issue is being felt outside of border states. As a native Texan, it has been hilarious to watch commentary from areas like Chicago and NYC shift from knee-jerk “Texans are racist” to “this is an unsustainable problem and we are actively working towards blocking a migrant influx”.

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I’m not glad its being felt anywhere. These tax-funded social experiments that concentrate needy people and incentivize dysfunction are a complete disaster for working and middle class people.

As an aside, we had another shooting last night. This was unheard of just a few years ago. Generations of peace sacrificed for votes and self-congratulatory performance politics.

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Ideally it wouldn’t be, however the border isn’t very well secured, and never really is.

Within the reality of our border situation, it’s an unfortunately nice-to-know comfort that regions largely insulated from directly experiencing border issues are having light bulb moments.

Unfortunately but maybe not surprisingly the dialogue is blaming Texas and other border states for not just absorbing everything instead of looking at root cause, but hopefully with enough awareness and direct negative feedback some views will change in a way that even our Super Bowl style political discourse will adopt similar views around sovereignty and border security.

It’s all fun and games when it’s somebody else’s problem, but crash Martha’s Vineyard for a few hours and my god, a whole new audience is listening.

Agreed. America was a good idea, it worked out well for a while, but humans aren’t perfect so they were never going to make a perfect system. Tocqueville foresaw the issues we’d face almost 200 years ago. It’s not fun to think about things getting worse, but what reason is there to think those things wouldn’t happen?

Russell Means worked in Cleveland in the 1950s (maybe late 40s?) and was shocked at the amount of discrimination he saw against Jews. I believe he said he thought it seemed even worse than what blacks faced.

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Smarty pants French guys have always talked shit about the USA.

That’s why Americans disregard everything French.

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I can tell you for sure there is no hope for mankind.

As for Merica, as long as sheep keep wanting gubmit to solve the problems, NO!

Yes Gubmit has a place, but not for all the BS people want.

I know how to spell, but I don’t use key words, big bro is watching.

Life to me is obsured and I agree with this man here-

You don’t think they account for that? They can translate Idiot to English.

Translating is not searching.

Gubmit: hey sheep, that guy is not paying his fair taxes. Vote for me and I’ll show him!

The Sheep: Happy 4th of July!!! Gawd damn him, I’m voting for you to punish him!!!
I don’t even know who he is or that I buy chit from him all the time!

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Would you like to list off the conspiracy theories you believe in?

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You are born in falsehood, period!