For non violent crimes yes.
And you seem to be one those blind people.
Four years of learning prison life isn’t going to help society. I guess you are blind to all the mental health issues happening these days. All these people have served time in the great system you defend.
BTW, OP talks about defending women, well that’ll put you right in the situation I’m talking about.
If you want to stay out of trouble, you better be a pussy in life.
There are areas in every city, if you are born there were you got no daddy and multiple siblings with other unknown daddys with zero jobs in the area, what are your chances???
That’s going on in this country.
A 10 year olds only option is running drugs for the local gang. What’s a 10 year old with zero education gonna do? How are they gonna know how to help themselves out the right way???
I live a 1/2 hour away from where some of the notorious gangsters are from, there is NOTHING for them as kids.
The only hope they have have is as they become adults being in the gang life they somehow get a sense of right and wrong and just run off. They can’t become informants someone will find out.
What a life……….
*too … do any of these inmates have any agency at all, any free will, any personal responsibility, any number of faculties in which they’re in control of?
Once upon a time I held contracts to provide retirement & insurance to a county Sheriff department and was given a tour of the county jail.
I realize county is small potatoes in the criminal journey but fwiw the building capacity is 5,075 and it was overcrowded. It was also largely housing gang members involved in the drug trade at the cartel level as points of contact who make the big initial buys/imports and then distribute via their “networks” through the US, so it was quite the experience as they were all violent criminals and even murderers in a low security facility awaiting transfer or court dates or whatever the fuck is happening at that time.
In my 45 min tour, there were 4 fights. Flashing lights on a color code system for severity, sirens et cetera. All hands on deck, including the guard giving me the tour and he had me run to them with him as he couldn’t leave me unattended 
. Most of them were stopped pretty quickly but one guy got jumped, was shanked multiple times and had a mop handle shoved through an eye.
He was the “victim” but he was also a gang member who got caught up in a vulnerable position, and likely would have been the aggressor or one of them had tables been turned.
So how do you define “defense” in prison where nobody is innocent, tensions are based on identity and violence is a constant, two way street?
When his gang retaliates are the rival gang members with the current upper hand victims, or are they just a continuation of the same problem and realizing the consequences of their own actions?
How can authorities discern and manage considering?
I highly doubt that benefit of the doubt laden tolerance would be the right way to go in that environment.
Not all inmates are gang members nor did they commit any crime related to being in a gang.
With that, go defend a women and you could end up in a cell with them.
With the exception of the death penalty you aren’t supposed to be sentenced to being murdered.
You are only talking county. The Pen is another beast and the last place you’d ever want to defend a woman is the state of GA.
*womAn… FFS I see this error everywhere.
I get that but all inmates are criminals and are in a system full of other criminals, and gangs. Either street gangs or dedicated prison gangs, and the aforementioned scenario is how it works. So should the guards give benefit of the doubt and indirectly validate retaliatory violence as self-defense to “save” the 1-100 inmate that may have caught a harsher sentence than he should have? Because I feel like this is how riots and total loss of control happen, to everybody’s detriment.
The opposite of blind; I’m fully aware when it comes to the consequences of criminal behavior. I also have a sense of morals.
What does this even mean? Someone is a pussy if they don’t commit crimes?
They would be a lot higher if the enablers, excuse makers and finger pointing crybabies stayed out of it.
This mindset is the problem as it’s based on watching too much television. If you believe that is the only option, you are incredibly ignorant. You are also very privileged to be in that state of ignorance.
The thing is, they can and do. He made up the claim that an inmate doesn’t have the right to self defense.
You guys are arguing with an old, fat, out of shape troll who is more than likely mentally slow.
I just realized he’s the celery guy.
The plan should be this, which would allow for the citizenry to determine their own priorities and end government service to the entities exploiting us:
Once we reduce corruption, the population can sort themselves out as desired. I’m happy to make less money to live in the nowhere. Others may want big house/big commute. Still others may want downtown w/ increased focus on crime.
In context of the consumerism/housing price index bend, can I high level summarize this as ultimately allowing government control over the housing market?
No, I’m talking about voters having control over government again. Voting for the representation they want and then seeing governance reflect their wishes.
Ending corporate and interest group control over our elected officials.
Sure, with guardrails. Regardless of how votes are managed I wouldn’t want government control of the real estate market on the table. As an extreme example, voters can’t just vote to take over privately owned houses. Eminent domain is bad enough, speaking of trains dropping people off at LAX.
So, having read it all, I have to ask:
What did you do?
I’m speaking much more generally. The real estate market is not a particular concern of mine, though of course I care, and I particularly did not like the threat of eminent domain while living in Texas (which is the only place I’ve lived where it was forever on the table, or even brought up at all).
I’m simply offering that eliminating all bills that aren’t single-issue takes sweet pots of construction money (pork) out of the equation, which are what necessitate things like ED.
But I’m speaking far beyond real estate, and was only really speaking to your “so what is the plan” following @NotYou’s contention that something in our country needs to change. The question could have been healthcare costs. I think I pay over $8k/yr for health insurance, and I am healthy and work for a hospital, so am presumably lucky to have it at that price. On top of that I generally spend my $1500 FSA, which if I don’t goes away - to where?? - so I do spend it. Luckily my plastic eyeglasses cost something like $600/pr, so total $10k/yr healthcare for two of us, both healthy, why? If ever one of us needs to have an appendix out, I’ll still have significant copays I’m sure. I happen to know that my hospital charges upward of $400 for a single therapy session with me, in part due to some sort of facilities fee, while in private practice insurance paid me an average of $80/hr. It’s crooked, to a degree that is obscene.
How about big pharma? We, as taxpayers, fund most of the early research - oh hey, we have a foot in that door as well at my house, as my husband is a biomedical engineer and as such travels around to universities fixing their research machines for several hundred dollars an hour, even for his travel time. But that’s okay, because grants cover that sort of thing. Anyway, so we as taxpayers fund the early research, which uses his bio sorters, and then we as consumers pay big pharma inflated prices for the drugs once they hit the market.
And then, following this healthcare trail a little further, how about big food and the farm subsidies? Dupont, monsanto (husband goes there, too) and the other big agriculture guys grabbing land from smaller, local farms who don’t have the money to get corporate welfare and so are going under. While meanwhile our public school children eat swill. Kraft, which I think is doing pretty well, is on the welfare rolls. First, here is their recent profit:
And here, very poorly formatted, but you can see the number followed by the type of subsidy (loan, grant, hybrid, haha training reimbursement).
(https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/subsidy-tracker/ia-kraft-heinz-foods-company-)|Iowa|state|2015|$4,750,000||grant/loan hybrid program|
|Kraft Foods Global, Inc.|Wisconsin|state|2008|$3,000,000||tax credit/rebate|
|Kraft Heinz Foods Company|Iowa|state|2016|$2,466,000||training reimbursement|
|Kraft Foods Global, Inc|Illinois|state|2014|$2,389,291||tax credit/rebate|
|Kraft Foods North America, Inc.|New York|state|2013|$1,945,372||enterprise zone|
|Kraft Foods Global, Inc.|Iowa|state|2009|$1,523,769||enterprise zone|
|Kraft Foods Global, Inc|Illinois|state|2013|$1,418,097||tax credit/rebate|
|Kraft Foods Group, Inc.|Texas|local|2014|$1,200,000||grant|
|Kraft Foods Group, Inc.|Texas|local|2013|$1,200,000||grant|
I don’t swear by these sources or numbers, but it certainly gives an idea. I don’t think Kraft Heinz Food Company really needs our collective charity, do you? And yet, here we are. I’m sure urban and exurban real estate will tell a similar story of corruption if you delve.
Generally speaking, I don’t have any issues with eliminating or at least reducing special interest influence on elections, and eliminating pork barrel spending. The broader context of my dialogue with NotYou was around expecting a 60’s lifestyle in 2024 without making the choices to live like they did in the 60’s. It’s empty whining.
Expecting government to regulate or subsidize healthcare costs by default makes healthcare a basic human right, and I fundamentally disagree. Healthcare doesn’t exist in a void, it requires another’s knowledge, labor, resources and time and nobody has the right to command any of that from another. I also don’t understand attacking insurance companies, who only exist to subsidize the cost of healthcare for people who can’t afford it.
Are you wiling to drop your rates in order for the entire population to casually and easily afford you out of pocket? Permanently, not occasional goodwill instances.
Have you considered dropping insurance? The vast majority of healthcare systems allow payment plans. This way you would only need to pay for any services you receive, and you would be paying providers directly, so no concerns around middleman bloat.
I’m not familiar with hospital admin overhead and fees, but whose salaries should be cut, or what expenses do you propose reducing to decrease the $400 fee to your $80 income?
I’m totally fine eliminating subsidies. And regarding real estate, not introducing them from the consumer side.
If there is corruption in real estate I’m sure it’s at the developer/local govt level and revolves around taxing existing homeowners to subsidize costs while building for new homeowners, which seems to be in support of lower cost real estate ownership, but not something I am in support of.
All governmental subsidies should be eliminated
If the product or service cannot stand on its own then it is not a worthy product or service
From what I know, farm subsidies are necessary for small farmers to withstand a poor year due to weather and/or disease. How many years can a small farmer operate in the red?
It would not be many years before we would be talking about Big Farm, as the small farmers would swallowed up by large corporate farmers who are diversified enough to be always making a profit.
That said, the farm subsidies should be monitored to assure they are not being abused.