HAHAHAH, thats the shit that is my sister’s current trend to support her ‘get rich without working for it’ scheme. They’re a brainwashing personality cult, but at least they’re making money.
Its hilarious that anyone here would buy into it considering hardwork and patience isn’t part of “the secret”. Why don’t you just think of being big and strong and skip all this weight lifting junk?
Nice video.
Synchronicity. The Law of Attraction. The Grand Experiment. Manifestation of Intention.
Sounds all cool. Nicely packaged. Nice marketing job.
Here’s the real question: Let’s suppose I have correctly formulated my desire for wealth according to The Secret … if my wish of wealth is inevitable in the end, then why should I CHARGE people 4.95$ to be a part of ‘The Process’? If what I have to offer is so good, wouldn’t people gladly donate money to me once they find out how true and wonderful this discovery is?
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
I think The Secret is masturbating to Dani Woodward while downing a few xanax and drinking a Spike. But then I guess we all interpret things differently.[/quote]
haha I needed a laugh. I like your style.
[quote]texass wrote:
Its hilarious that anyone here would buy into it considering hardwork and patience isn’t part of “the secret”. Why don’t you just think of being big and strong and skip all this weight lifting junk?[/quote]
I think you’re completely missing the point.
Who said anything about not working hard?
Who said anything about ‘skipping all this junk’?
I don’t think anyone here is ‘buying into’ being delusional about what constitutes success.
I do think people here are buying into the notion that they know everything and ‘things like this’ have nothing of value to teach them.
The naysayers must all be supremely enlightened individuals with everything that could possibly constitute success at their immediate disposal: trusting individuals, all of the material aspects (money, car, house, etc. of their dreams), a fantastically functional family life, no worries about bills, social dysfunctions, etc.
If so, great. I’m extremely happy for you.
If not, great as well. You are responsible for your station in life and you can do whatever you choose if you act on it.
Regardless, I thought it was an interesting film worth 5 bucks, and I thought I’d share.
-Nate
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
There is only any content in this video if you believe there is content in this video. If you believe it’s nothing but frivolous shit, it’s nothing but frivolous shit.[/quote]
I read that as “If you approach this film with an open mind, you’ll benefit from it. If you approach this film with a closed mind, you won’t.” I can agree with that concept.
A legitimate question for you: What is an example of work that has been done countless times and “much better than this video”? If someone wanted to read and/or watch something for motivation, a kick in the ass in the right direction, what would you, Dweezil, recommend?
I’m not one to group people into catergories or anything, but I’m going to quickly right now:
“Stupid” people fall for outrageous ad copy and are victims of ignorance and therfore get what they had coming. Those douchebags.
“Smart” people realize that ad copy is unjustified bullshit hype and vehemently oppose the stupidity and gullibilty of the stupid fuckers who buy into it.
Educated, business-savvy individuals know that ad copy and semi-over-the-top marketing is what it takes to reach a wide audience through gureilla marketing and learns to see THROUGH all of the promises, claims, incantations and beliefs to the true product or idea to verify its value and authenticity.
Whether it’s ‘good’ or ‘bad’ depends on the person and his/her belief structure, past experiences, and myriad other factors and whether it ‘sucks’ or ‘changes their life’ is up to the individual choices of the person.
And I’ve now realized that I’ve literally wasted 15 more minutes on the computer when I could be doing something productive to help build my success…
…like chanting life-affirming mantras, not working hard, believing everything I’ve been told, taking things at face value, yearning for instant-gratification and wallowing in my sorrows and indecision as I meander through life as a lost soul who’s looking for miracles and arguing with other people on an Internet forum…
-Nate
Nate,
I might watch it for the entertainment part you said before, but I think I’ll stick to God to deliver all my needs thanks.
M’kay Nate, just don’t drink the purple kool-aid.
[quote]Nate Green wrote:
You are responsible for your station in life and you can do whatever you choose if you act on it.
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I agree with the sentiment of this, but often time someone’s “station” in life is beyond their choosing and no actions or positive thinking will change that.
For example, is someone born with downs syndrome responsible for their “station” in life? Do you honestly believe the Law of Attraction will empower a downs syndrome kid to choose and create a life free from downs syndrome?
Sometimes life dishes out a horrible situation that can’t be gotten rid of. Choosing to create a life free of that unfortunate state is not an option.
Jim Labadie supports this movie in his newsletter. If Nate Green gives it the thumbs up, I’m sold. I will be watching it in the near future.
[quote]storeydp wrote:
For example, is someone born with downs syndrome responsible for their “station” in life? Do you honestly believe the Law of Attraction will empower a downs syndrome kid to choose and create a life free from downs syndrome?
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I agree that the person suffering from the disease is not responsible for the onset and symptoms of the disease.
However, I do believe that the parents have a concious choice whether or not to be positive and create great opportunities for their child that may have not been afforded to him/her. It would be much more constructive than just ‘dealing with it’ and falling into a negative space.
That said, I don’t have a child with/without a disease.
-Nate
[quote]
Here’s the real question: Let’s suppose I have correctly formulated my desire for wealth according to The Secret … if my wish of wealth is inevitable in the end, then why should I CHARGE people 4.95$ to be a part of ‘The Process’? If what I have to offer is so good, wouldn’t people gladly donate money to me once they find out how true and wonderful this discovery is?[/quote]
Very good questions!
Maybe those guys are just exploiting the suffering of human beings? Nowadays in our societies there are a bunch of loosers and other clueless people, and making easy money from their sufferings is actually pretty easy…business is business!
[quote]Franck wrote:
Very good questions!
Maybe those guys are just exploiting the suffering of human beings? Nowadays in our societies there are a bunch of loosers and other clueless people, and making easy money from their sufferings is actually pretty easy…business is business!
[/quote]
Nail-hit-on-head.
[quote]Franck wrote:
Here’s the real question: Let’s suppose I have correctly formulated my desire for wealth according to The Secret … if my wish of wealth is inevitable in the end, then why should I CHARGE people 4.95$ to be a part of ‘The Process’? If what I have to offer is so good, wouldn’t people gladly donate money to me once they find out how true and wonderful this discovery is?
Very good questions!
Maybe those guys are just exploiting the suffering of human beings? Nowadays in our societies there are a bunch of loosers and other clueless people, and making easy money from their sufferings is actually pretty easy…business is business!
[/quote]
The money is thier accepting thier goal or request for it. They had the idea to make movie, so they make the movie, then make money. It’s not as mystical as it all sounds.
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
If finding a vague video on a relatively unknown internet site is your trigger,[/quote]
Just wanted to point out that the “vague” video was featured on Larry King Live last week and this week.
It is also #23 on amazon’s DVD bestseller list (just behind Lost and ahead of the Office).
And the “relatively unknown internet site” gets over 3-4 times the traffic that T-Nation does.
–
AC
The idea of the Law of Attraction is not simply that thinking of something brings it to you. Thinking of what you want, on the other hand, brings WHATEVER IS NECESSARY to accomplish your goal.
One day a person decides he wants to stop being so skinny and build a muscular frame. By focusing intently on this goal, and believing that he will succeed, he will attract through universal forces certain “things” to succeed. These “things” may be the motivation to start going to the gym, a sudden idea to check the internet for information on building muscle, which will lead him here, or he may even attract certain people who he will interact with and possibly have oppurtunities open up to him through his interactions with this person.
So the Law of Attraction does not imply inaction. It only states that you attract into your reality that which you focus on or think about.
To give a real life example, I’ll use myself. Last year I was in my dormroom eating pizza with a friend. During that time (and still now) I thought of nothing but my goals to fight evil and become a Navy SEAL. A knock comes at my door, and it is at that moment that I meet my now best friend and room mate, Sandro.
He saw the pizza man come and he was starving and asked if he could get some. After talking to him for a while, I find out that he is basically like me in every way: He loves fighting, wants to make the world better by destroying evil, wants to be a Navy SEAL, and loves the Disney Channel.
So, what are the chances that the person who comes to my door is JUST the person I need to help me succeed in my goals? That’s the Law of Attraction.
[quote]Nate Green wrote:
If you’ve ever seen What the Bleep Do We Know? you’ll know what format to expect and just how important and life-altering the information is.
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So it’s similar to a propaganda film made by a cult following the teachings of Ramtha, a 35,000 year old spirit-warrior channeled by JZ Knight? Does it incorporate new age pseudoscience and reference thoroughly debunked experiments as well?
[quote]HardcoreHorn wrote:
The idea of the Law of Attraction is not simply that thinking of something brings it to you. Thinking of what you want, on the other hand, brings WHATEVER IS NECESSARY to accomplish your goal.
One day a person decides he wants to stop being so skinny and build a muscular frame. By focusing intently on this goal, and believing that he will succeed, he will attract through universal forces certain “things” to succeed. These “things” may be the motivation to start going to the gym, a sudden idea to check the internet for information on building muscle, which will lead him here, or he may even attract certain people who he will interact with and possibly have oppurtunities open up to him through his interactions with this person.
So the Law of Attraction does not imply inaction. It only states that you attract into your reality that which you focus on or think about.
To give a real life example, I’ll use myself. Last year I was in my dormroom eating pizza with a friend. During that time (and still now) I thought of nothing but my goals to fight evil and become a Navy SEAL. A knock comes at my door, and it is at that moment that I meet my now best friend and room mate, Sandro.
He saw the pizza man come and he was starving and asked if he could get some. After talking to him for a while, I find out that he is basically like me in every way: He loves fighting, wants to make the world better by destroying evil, wants to be a Navy SEAL, and loves the Disney Channel.
So, what are the chances that the person who comes to my door is JUST the person I need to help me succeed in my goals? That’s the Law of Attraction.[/quote]
I don’t think it has anything to do with “attracting” anything. I think it’s just called networking. If you talk to enough people about your goals, you’ll eventually run into people who have the same goals, and you can then develop a relationship. Success comes from taking advantage of whatever oppurtunities or resources come your way.
You say that your roommate is “just the person you need.” Sure, that may be what you think, and that’s great if you guys help each other out and take advantage of all you can offer each other, but I bet the chances are that you met a guy that wants to be a SEAL are actually pretty high.
I don’t think there’s anything magic about it. I’d argue that you could have met any number of people that would be more helpful to you. Like a Navy Admiral visiting his smoking hot daughter has a heart attack outside of your dorm room and you save his life with some CPR. You marry the daughter, and the Admiral pushes some paperwork through once you’re in the Navy. More realistically, you could have met a former SEAL going to your college.
Hell, there could be SEAL living next door to you and you don’t know it. If you all you ever talk to the guy about is beer, that might be all the guy ever talks to you about. If you talk to him about SEALs, and he thinks you’re serious and have a chance to actually go for it, he may decide to show you a swimming workout. If you buy him some lunch, he might break out a mask and fins and show you more.
Don’t forget your roomie - introduce them or show him what you’ve learned. Again - networking and taking advantage of whatever you can.
[quote]Nate Green wrote:
Guys,
This is probably one of the most important movies I’ve ever watched and I wanted to share it.
Make sure to check out the trailer at the bottom of the page.
If you’ve ever seen What the Bleep Do We Know? you’ll know what format to expect and just how important and life-altering the information is.
I did the ‘Watch Now’ for $4.95 (video came up immediately afterwards) and now have a page full of notes and actually just ordered the DVD.
Obviously, I have no financial stock in the film but I do take enormous stock in the message and overall theme.
Do you know the Secret?
Cheers,
-Nate[/quote]
Hey - my bf and I loved the secret and have shared it with many, it’s a must see
We’ve also seen What the Bleep Do We Know. Have you seen Down The Rabbit Hole?
BGB
[quote]Colucci wrote:
I read that as “If you approach this film with an open mind, you’ll benefit from it. If you approach this film with a closed mind, you won’t.” I can agree with that concept.[/quote]
You can read it that way. And the way you read it has some relevancy to how you react to most things. There is very little firm foundation with work like this. Most of this is based on the intention manifestation model, which I take less than seriously. There is only content here if you apply the content, and in other fields of learning there is content and depth to it whether you apply it or not.
Half the people that watch this will read and watch other things and constantly say how it changes their life, even though their life never changes because they’re busy reading and watching things like this.
A fourth will get some inspiration and it’ll lead them to worthwhile changes in their life.
Another fourth will watch it for the sake of watching it, because they have nothing better to do and work like this amuses them. I would be apart of that group normally, but I don’t really have the time for more of this shit.
Most of the people on this site are not in the first group, or they probably wouldn’t be here. This is a crass site and people are realistic, which is a good thing. A lot of this is castle in the air bullshit, and if you need fanciful tales and distortions of scientific teachings by philosophers to get you started on something there are deeper issues that require more attention than some basic inspirational video can give you.
As a Man Thinketh by James Allen is pretty good. Most of the Carnegie work is outdated by now. Tony Robbins is good despite how campy he seems. Learned Optimism is an interesting book, though I wasn’t a big fan of it I’d imagine it’s still better than this.
Seven Habits of Highly Effective People is pretty good, though I am about as tired of hearing the word paradigm as a person could be.
The Richest Man in Babylon is probably the only classic that still has any relevancy as far as I’m concerned, and that includes Think and Grow Rich and almost all of Dale Carnegies work.
Rich Dad, Poor Dad is one of the few book series I single out as complete and utter garbage, there is literally nothing in there that is not a rehash of previously provided information, and it’s written by a self styled draft dodger who lies about his wealth, which is significantly less than he has people believe. Generally, everything associated with Amway is complete and utter shit.
As for videos, I guess there are a few, though I am not big on any of them. I understand that gigantic segments of the population are better as visual learners, but if you want some kind of self improvement or personal growth or whatever the fuck it is you’re looking for, a book is better. Quiet time leads to contemplation. Visual aides and people on a screen leads to you internalizing nothing and taking everything at face value.
[quote]Alwyn Cosgrove wrote:
Just wanted to point out that the “vague” video was featured on Larry King Live last week and this week.
It is also #23 on amazon’s DVD bestseller list (just behind Lost and ahead of the Office).
And the “relatively unknown internet site” gets over 3-4 times the traffic that T-Nation does.
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AC
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Yeah, well. You sided with full body training in those roundtable articles. I’m not talking to you!
It can be the most popular thing in the world. Berardi can come in halfway through the video fucking one of the speakers, Poliquin can be in the credits at the end talking about how it changed his life, Ian King and Dan John could show up at my condo in the end wearing funny hats, throw me in a Astro van and force me to watch the video for 3 days straight feeding me only ZMA, KY jelly and vitamin water. It could cure my mother of her procrastination issues and make my dick 4 inches bigger, and it still would only have an effect if I was impotent enough to require external pressure, lofty and depthless ideals and some ‘greater force’ to push me to change, as opposed to changing for the sake of improving myself, my life and the lives of people around me.
I’ve heard “if you think it a way will come to you”, it was explored in-depth 80 fucking years ago in Think and Grow Rich, and it was the basis of that entire book, and that book is probably the reason this video exists. This is that with pretty graphics, a little mysterious marketing and some people playing volleyball on a beach. Yes, I could see how this is worth watching.
It still remains a vague video on a skeevy internet site, regardless of popularity. It is vague, because there is little to no instantly applicable knowledge gained from the majority of this work other than a faux sense of enlightenment and some new ways for you to think about the world around you. Every experience we have causes that if you really want to talk about ‘openness’, and paying money, even if it’s 10 cents, for what amounts to a contentless ‘secretive’ uplifting handjob would be paying more than it’s worth.