Do You Consume Alcohol?

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Regarding the OP, I rarely consume alcohol. I did last Friday for my company Christmas party and I will this coming Friday for my “department” Christmas happy hour. But I don’t really get hammered or anything. I know how long I’m going to be there and I make an appropriate choice on how much to consume so that I can drive home safely.

Every once in a while (as in maybe twice a year) I will have a few fingers of expensive Scotch by myself as I reflect on some things. It’s more of a “ritual”, than trying to get fucked up. But that’s the only time I drink alone.

At a bar/party, I’ll drink a beer or two (preferably an IPA). At a restaurant I might share a good bottle of wine with a nice steak. At night club I tend to drink a gin and tonic, rum and coke or vodka and tonic. At a high end establishment I’ll go for a martini, old fashioned, Manhattan or straight up Scotch. When I travel, I like to sample some of the locally produced stuff.

For me, an alcoholic drink ADDS to the occasion and lends another layer of ambiance and pleasure, but is not the “main event”.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Regarding the OP, I rarely consume alcohol. I did last Friday for my company Christmas party and I will this coming Friday for my “department” Christmas happy hour. But I don’t really get hammered or anything. I know how long I’m going to be there and I make an appropriate choice on how much to consume so that I can drive home safely.

Every once in a while (as in maybe twice a year) I will have a few fingers of expensive Scotch by myself as I reflect on some things. It’s more of a “ritual”, than trying to get fucked up. But that’s the only time I drink alone.

At a bar/party, I’ll drink a beer or two (preferably an IPA). At a restaurant I might share a good bottle of wine with a nice steak. At night club I tend to drink a gin and tonic, rum and coke or vodka and tonic. At a high end establishment I’ll go for a martini, old fashioned, Manhattan or straight up Scotch. When I travel, I like to sample some of the locally produced stuff.

For me, an alcoholic drink ADDS to the occasion and lends another layer of ambiance and pleasure, but is not the “main event”.[/quote]
I have grown into this myself. Did this change the older you became?

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Scotch and Bourbon are my drink of choice. Normally once or twice a month. This month has been an exception with Christmas parties and unusual nights out. I prefer to drink at home.

I like to drink with sweet baby Jesus all wrapped up in his manger.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Scotch and Bourbon are my drink of choice. Normally once or twice a month. This month has been an exception with Christmas parties and unusual nights out. I prefer to drink at home.

I like to drink with sweet baby Jesus all wrapped up in his manger. [/quote]

Great taste!

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Regarding the OP, I rarely consume alcohol. I did last Friday for my company Christmas party and I will this coming Friday for my “department” Christmas happy hour. But I don’t really get hammered or anything. I know how long I’m going to be there and I make an appropriate choice on how much to consume so that I can drive home safely.

Every once in a while (as in maybe twice a year) I will have a few fingers of expensive Scotch by myself as I reflect on some things. It’s more of a “ritual”, than trying to get fucked up. But that’s the only time I drink alone.

At a bar/party, I’ll drink a beer or two (preferably an IPA). At a restaurant I might share a good bottle of wine with a nice steak. At night club I tend to drink a gin and tonic, rum and coke or vodka and tonic. At a high end establishment I’ll go for a martini, old fashioned, Manhattan or straight up Scotch. When I travel, I like to sample some of the locally produced stuff.

For me, an alcoholic drink ADDS to the occasion and lends another layer of ambiance and pleasure, but is not the “main event”.[/quote]
I have grown into this myself. Did this change the older you became? [/quote]

Sure did! I remember in high school, a case of “beast” did the trick!

As I’ve expanded the range of “grown up activities” that I participate in, my palate has broadened.

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[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]maverick88 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Gin, wine, beer, Scotch, whatever else I have lying around.[/quote]

Win!
At some point in your life “Don’t give a fuck” kicks in pretty hard. If it hasn’t kicked in, you haven’t lived long enough.[/quote]
This is the saddest thing I have ever read.[/quote]
Then you clearly haven’t lived long enough. Or read enough.[/quote]

Or ye judgeth to much…
There’s much worse in life then a person left to their cryin’ whiskey. Nobody said ‘Don’t give a fuck’ is a permanent condition. Like every other state in life, you get over it.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Scotch and Bourbon are my drink of choice. Normally once or twice a month. This month has been an exception with Christmas parties and unusual nights out. I prefer to drink at home.

I like to drink with sweet baby Jesus all wrapped up in his manger. [/quote]

I know this is supposed to be really good shit, but I cannot get into Scotch. To me it has a very thin taste. I like the meater American Bourbons and Whiskeys.
I’ll take a nice glass of Gentleman Jack over a fine Scotch any day. I like American Whiskey the best.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Scotch and Bourbon are my drink of choice. Normally once or twice a month. This month has been an exception with Christmas parties and unusual nights out. I prefer to drink at home.

I like to drink with sweet baby Jesus all wrapped up in his manger. [/quote]

I know this is supposed to be really good shit, but I cannot get into Scotch. To me it has a very thin taste. I like the meater American Bourbons and Whiskeys.
I’ll take a nice glass of Gentleman Jack over a fine Scotch any day. I like American Whiskey the best. [/quote]

I prefer Bourbon as well, but also enjoy a good Scotch from time to time. I’ve got a bottle of 12 year old Glenfiddich at home that I’m not a huge fan of.

Location wise, it really depends. Cheap Whiskey, I like Crown probably the best.

I really like Johnnie Walker Double Black and Makers Mark Bourbon. Bookers isn’t bad either and I like Elijah Craig too.

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I had some Maple flavored Knob Creek recently that was very good.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Scotch and Bourbon are my drink of choice. Normally once or twice a month. This month has been an exception with Christmas parties and unusual nights out. I prefer to drink at home.

I like to drink with sweet baby Jesus all wrapped up in his manger. [/quote]

I know this is supposed to be really good shit, but I cannot get into Scotch. To me it has a very thin taste. I like the meater American Bourbons and Whiskeys.
I’ll take a nice glass of Gentleman Jack over a fine Scotch any day. I like American Whiskey the best. [/quote]

I prefer Bourbon as well, but also enjoy a good Scotch from time to time. I’ve got a bottle of 12 year old Glenfiddich at home that I’m not a huge fan of.

Location wise, it really depends. Cheap Whiskey, I like Crown probably the best.

I really like Johnnie Walker Double Black and Makers Mark Bourbon. Bookers isn’t bad either and I like Elijah Craig too. [/quote]
You want my address to send the Glenfiddich to? I can take care of that for you.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Scotch and Bourbon are my drink of choice. Normally once or twice a month. This month has been an exception with Christmas parties and unusual nights out. I prefer to drink at home.

I like to drink with sweet baby Jesus all wrapped up in his manger. [/quote]

I know this is supposed to be really good shit, but I cannot get into Scotch. To me it has a very thin taste. I like the meater American Bourbons and Whiskeys.
I’ll take a nice glass of Gentleman Jack over a fine Scotch any day. I like American Whiskey the best. [/quote]

I prefer Bourbon as well, but also enjoy a good Scotch from time to time. I’ve got a bottle of 12 year old Glenfiddich at home that I’m not a huge fan of.

Location wise, it really depends. Cheap Whiskey, I like Crown probably the best.

I really like Johnnie Walker Double Black and Makers Mark Bourbon. Bookers isn’t bad either and I like Elijah Craig too. [/quote]
You want my address to send the Glenfiddich to? I can take care of that for you. [/quote]

Somehow I’ll find a way to finish it. It’s a tough life I know…

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Everything (anything?). Nothing is off the table. Debating staying away from alcohol for a while though.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
Big agriculture is the most devious of them all. First they push shit like high fructose corn syrup, corn fed beef, chicken that spends about 3 days of it’s like without antibiotics (max) before it’s slaughtered, genetically modified grains, etc… until that’s the accepted norm, than they push the premiums on regular stuff through the roof while touting the health benefits to justify why a chicken that costs pennies more per kilo to raise should cost 300% more at market. It’s brilliant.[/quote]
You don’t have to buy it.

You can grow your own corn and raise your own chickens on it if it really bothers you that much. People have been doing that for a few millennia; I’m pretty sure it works.[/quote]

You can’t be this ignorant…
[/quote]

O_o Say what??[/quote]

The idea that anyone can just go an grow whatever they want is just absurd.[/quote]

Why is that? Life is about making choices. ANYONE can have a garden and grow vegetables. If you CHOOSE, you can move to an area that is zoned for agriculture and tend livestock… It’s not that difficult. I know people that do it and they are perfectly “normal” people, not farmers.

I tend a small garden myself. It isn’t rocket science. Given my time constraints, I buy grass fed beef a side or two at a time. But when I’ve met a few milestones that I’ve set for myself, I intend to at least raise some chickens. Maybe a few goats.

There is plenty of rural property available within an hour commute of my work territory to make this goal feasible…

How is that absurd?
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I just disagree that anyone can do it. I disagree that it’s is as easy for everyone as it is for you. And I completely disagree in the notion that it can be done in a sustainable manner to replace big subsidized farmers, or even small farms.

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[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
Big agriculture is the most devious of them all. First they push shit like high fructose corn syrup, corn fed beef, chicken that spends about 3 days of it’s like without antibiotics (max) before it’s slaughtered, genetically modified grains, etc… until that’s the accepted norm, than they push the premiums on regular stuff through the roof while touting the health benefits to justify why a chicken that costs pennies more per kilo to raise should cost 300% more at market. It’s brilliant.[/quote]
You don’t have to buy it.

You can grow your own corn and raise your own chickens on it if it really bothers you that much. People have been doing that for a few millennia; I’m pretty sure it works.[/quote]

You can’t be this ignorant…
[/quote]

O_o Say what??[/quote]

The idea that anyone can just go an grow whatever they want is just absurd.[/quote]

Why is that? Life is about making choices. ANYONE can have a garden and grow vegetables. If you CHOOSE, you can move to an area that is zoned for agriculture and tend livestock… It’s not that difficult. I know people that do it and they are perfectly “normal” people, not farmers.

I tend a small garden myself. It isn’t rocket science. Given my time constraints, I buy grass fed beef a side or two at a time. But when I’ve met a few milestones that I’ve set for myself, I intend to at least raise some chickens. Maybe a few goats.

There is plenty of rural property available within an hour commute of my work territory to make this goal feasible…

How is that absurd?
[/quote]

I just disagree that anyone can do it. I disagree that it’s is as easy for everyone as it is for you. And I completely disagree in the notion that it can be done in a sustainable manner to replace big subsidized farmers, or even small farms. [/quote]

I could fairly easily become totally self sufficient with regards to my own produce and meat. Flour/bread would really be my only hangup. I am actually only one generation removed from my family living like that. The acreage and investment required is actually not really as large as many people think. We have a two acre garden that feeds 4-5 families always with extra.

I could easily harvest enough deer, turkey, and fish to supply myself with meat for the year but I also purchase a grassfed cow along with 2 other families that we have butchered and split the beef from. Pigs, cows, chickens, and goats are incredibly easy to raise. Tomatoes, green beans, crowder peas, sweet corn, butter beans, okra, potatoes, and greens are also all very easy to grow. Hardest thing about them is keeping the deer away but you have a right to protect your garden so that sometimes means easy meat out of season.

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[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Phoenix44e wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
Big agriculture is the most devious of them all. First they push shit like high fructose corn syrup, corn fed beef, chicken that spends about 3 days of it’s like without antibiotics (max) before it’s slaughtered, genetically modified grains, etc… until that’s the accepted norm, than they push the premiums on regular stuff through the roof while touting the health benefits to justify why a chicken that costs pennies more per kilo to raise should cost 300% more at market. It’s brilliant.[/quote]
You don’t have to buy it.

You can grow your own corn and raise your own chickens on it if it really bothers you that much. People have been doing that for a few millennia; I’m pretty sure it works.[/quote]

You can’t be this ignorant…
[/quote]

O_o Say what??[/quote]

The idea that anyone can just go an grow whatever they want is just absurd.[/quote]

Why is that? Life is about making choices. ANYONE can have a garden and grow vegetables. If you CHOOSE, you can move to an area that is zoned for agriculture and tend livestock… It’s not that difficult. I know people that do it and they are perfectly “normal” people, not farmers.

I tend a small garden myself. It isn’t rocket science. Given my time constraints, I buy grass fed beef a side or two at a time. But when I’ve met a few milestones that I’ve set for myself, I intend to at least raise some chickens. Maybe a few goats.

There is plenty of rural property available within an hour commute of my work territory to make this goal feasible…

How is that absurd?
[/quote]

I just disagree that anyone can do it. I disagree that it’s is as easy for everyone as it is for you. And I completely disagree in the notion that it can be done in a sustainable manner to replace big subsidized farmers, or even small farms. [/quote]

I’m not trying to get into a pissing match with you - I know I sometimes come across that way on the internet. That’s not my intention at all.

We humans have been feeding our families with out grocery stores for 99.99% of our existence as a species (and for billions of years before we were human). ANYONE is capable of doing it.

I will of course concede that EVERYONE WONT. LOL And therefore your assertion that large subsidized farms being a necessity is well founded.

However, having said that, I will assert that anyone who does NOT have some degree of sustainability that is separate from “the system” is taking a huge risk. Remember this: if the supply chain were broken for more than three days or so, in most parts of the country there would be pandemonium.

There are countless ways that the supply chain could be broken: economic collapse, terror attack, earthquake, 8 feet of snow, 10 inches of rain, pandemic, industrial accident, etc…

If you don’t have the ability to meet some pretty basic needs (water, food, shelter, medicine, security, hygiene, communication) during trying times, then you will become, by default, completely dependent on the government and will likely get put in a camp run by FEMA. You will be a refugee…

Becoming self sufficient in certain areas is the ONLY responsible choice if you have family depending on you. Anything less is living in fantasy land.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
We humans have been feeding our families with out grocery stores for 99.99% of our existence as a species (and for billions of years before we were human).[/quote]

Irrelevant. You know why.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
However, having said that, I will assert that anyone who does NOT have some degree of sustainability that is separate from “the system” is taking a huge risk. Remember this: if the supply chain were broken for more than three days or so, in most parts of the country there would be pandemonium.[/quote]

I have no idea where you live, but I wager that whatever you do isn’t possible for people who live in L.A. Or people who don’t have a whole lot of disposable income.

Anyways, is your small farm self-sustainable? Can you feed you and your family with it for a while?

You wrote that it’s an hour’s commute from your workplace. Are you sure that you can get to it if pandemonium does break out? What if the roads are inaccessible? Then wouldn’t that mean choosing between your house and your small garden? If it’s an hour away (presumably by car), then that would mean many many hours walking.

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Sizzurp/robitussin. Homemade wine. Homemade beer, spartees sweat… pause…