Do You Believe In A God? Why or Why Not?

[T3hPwnisher]

@cyclonengineer

It’s more of what I use to answer non-religious/of other faith people when they ask “what if you’re wrong?”.To me, if I am wrong (again, I don’t believe this), at the end of my life I won’t know it.

Yeah, nothing wrong with that. More those that adopt it as an insurance policy that I feel will discover a third alternative.

[zecarlo]

@cyclonengineer

seek to live out the morals and tenets set forth in the Bible

You really don’t do that. Have you read the whole Bible or just a few passages that sound good?

[treco]

@dt79

This isn’t a good argument at all because you are asserting the need for a god, which has nothing to do with the existence of a god.

I would have to follow the thread, but that post was a response to a post directed to me.

The opening verse to the Bible:
In the beginning God creating the heaven and the earth.

Because l personally accept and believe this, it informs my entire life. Discoveries in science whether hard or social - l do not find at odds with the concept of the Creator God. Instead, they increase my amazement at the complex design. A design that draws from many factors to be suitable for life to be present. Thare are books on this, in scientific terms well beyond by education to fully comprehend.

Sorry your religion has blocked your relationship with God.
Read through the entire book of Psalms. You will find him.

[zecarlo]

@treco

Sorry your religion has blocked your relationship with God.
Read through the entire book of Psalms. You will find him.

So you blame religion for affecting his relationship with god and then recommend religion to repair it?

[cyclonengineer]

How can you make that determination based on a few posts here?

And I have read through the Bible in its entirety before. Some books mulitple times.

[Drew1411]

@cyclonengineer

This is the inherent nature of faith

I feel like you missed my question.

If the nature of faith is all you need to justify what you believe there’s not much else to say.

[cyclonengineer]

I didn’t miss the question. I put my faith in what I believe is the correct religion due to evidence I see in my life when I spend time strengthening that faith and talking to God. Obviously, this is anecdotal and you can believe me or not, but everytime I focus on giving issues to God to solve through prayer or asking him to help me solve them, somehow they get solved without more effort on my part.

Maybe it’s just the world going around, but the link is too direct for me to think my faith didn’t help.

[cyclonengineer]

This is how I felt about my faith/religion when I was younger. I didn’t quite understand what it meant to truly believe and it was my “insurance policy”.

[polo77j]

@zecarlo

You do come off as happy.

Great story. Compelling and rich.

[treco]

I encourage him and you to read the Bible and meet God there.

[tedro]

My nine year old daughter asked me a few months ago why there are so many different languages. I told her the story of the tower of babel/babylon. She didn’t believe me.

[H_factor]

@treco

Sorry your religion has blocked your relationship with God.
Read through the entire book of Psalms. You will find him.

I’ve read the Bible cover to cover about three times. I was raised Methodist. I didn’t even consider that God might not exist until my older brother said he doesn’t think hell is real when I was maybe 17.

Logic and reason make me question his existence.

[irongame66]

Sky wizards? Talking snakes? Immaculate conceptions? Creating humans from a rib bone?? yeah, seems real. rolls eyes

[T3hPwnisher]

@irongame66

Immaculate conceptions?

I’m thinking you understand this term to mean something different than what it actually means. Are you, by chance, confusing it with virgin/sexless conceptions?

[NickViar]

@aldebaran

according to the Bible etc a non-baptised infant, let’s say he died at birth, is going to purgatory (or hell I can’t remember) so what?

Which verse is that(assuming you’re talking about water baptism)?

[mr.v3lv3t]

Rock solid first post.

[treco]

God gave each of us a free will to seek him out and believe that he is the sovereign of all creation. Or to refuse - as Satan has done or to refuse to seek him out.

This is the course many here have taken. They are the center of their universe, by their logic. Or perhaps they consider themselves a meaningless speck, short in existence and tiny on a cosmic scale. Which is utterly depressing.

Ultimately, we are short-lived and tiny, but coming to and being accepted by God - gives us meaning. Here and eternally.

Those who refuse the banquet invitation now, should not be surprised, to not be there after this short life is completed.

[mnben87]

Pascal’s wager is a logical fallacy (a false dichotomy).

It leaves out many choices and outcomes. For example, what if you worship the wrong god? Maybe the punishment for that is worse than if no gods are worshiped?

[T3hPwnisher]

@treco

Or to refuse - as Satan has done

Satan was given free will as well?

[cyclonengineer]

I agree with the fact there are many other possible outcomes. It is one way of thinking/believing.

This is where faith and logic depart from one another. Sooner a later a choice has to be made. Wether that choice is in God, Nirvana, Valhalla, agnosticism, or the Big Bang theory, it’s a decision everyone either conciously or subconciously makes