Do I Have Enough Mass to Cut?

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I dont see how raw eggs are any different than cooked eggs though
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For me personally, I could consume more of them without feeling sick when drinking them (as long as they were well blended with something). Also, it’s quicker to consume/prepare (if you’re impatient with your food like me lol).

There have been some “arguments” over the body’s ability to absorb it well because of the altered protein molecules when cooked. I can’t say for sure. Although when I used to eat cooked eggs, I had really bad gass/stomach discomfort compared to eating them raw. So there could be some truth in it.

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[quote]Kanada wrote:
hey man happy bday. im 20 and change, and you easily kill me in mass/lifts etc. im not really jealous, as i always get to see my abs, but then again i didnt get PX telling me how good i am. nonetheless, waita be bro do you have any plans post high school (im assumin you graduate this year)?[/quote]

Yeah, I’m a senior in HS now, and thanks for the Birthday wishes. The current plan is to go to Michigan State University, as that is the most preferable place I’ve been accepted into, although I am still waiting on U of M, which is a pipe dream, but still a slim possibility.

As for the abs, I am envious… I really am. I was an obese child, and that is still a major motivation, thinking bout to all the flack I got in middle school. Luckily I leaned out before I moved to my new town in 8th grade, and let me just say, appearance means a lot in how people treat you, subconsciously or not.

As for leaning out, I just want to cut out the unneeded fat as of now, not go on a full cut as the guys on here have convinced me it’s not worth it. One day I would like to achieve the body similar to PWRBARBOY in rate my physique, as we have near identical frames and heights, just he is a lot leaner and obviously more impressive. My goal is to look something like him by the time I am 23, preferably naturally, though I am not against steroids, and will most probably at least explore the possiblity when I’m old enough to do it correctly.

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[quote]VerbalHologram wrote:

[quote]Kanada wrote:
hey man happy bday. im 20 and change, and you easily kill me in mass/lifts etc. im not really jealous, as i always get to see my abs, but then again i didnt get PX telling me how good i am. nonetheless, waita be bro do you have any plans post high school (im assumin you graduate this year)?[/quote]

Yeah, I’m a senior in HS now, and thanks for the Birthday wishes. The current plan is to go to Michigan State University, as that is the most preferable place I’ve been accepted into, although I am still waiting on U of M, which is a pipe dream, but still a slim possibility.

As for the abs, I am envious… I really am. I was an obese child, and that is still a major motivation, thinking bout to all the flack I got in middle school. Luckily I leaned out before I moved to my new town in 8th grade, and let me just say, appearance means a lot in how people treat you, subconsciously or not.

As for leaning out, I just want to cut out the unneeded fat as of now, not go on a full cut as the guys on here have convinced me it’s not worth it. One day I would like to achieve the body similar to PWRBARBOY in rate my physique, as we have near identical frames and heights, just he is a lot leaner and obviously more impressive. My goal is to look something like him by the time I am 23, preferably naturally, though I am not against steroids, and will most probably at least explore the possiblity when I’m old enough to do it correctly. [/quote]

This is me when I used to be ripped to the bones. May have been more pleasing to the eyes and women (i.e. girls) tend to like it, but I never felt all that confident…because I was a whopping 160lbs :stuck_out_tongue:

Honestly, muscularity/leanness is nothing without the mass. You can have abs at some point in your training, but they’re definitely over-rated especially by younger ones. Building yourself up in the long run (as you are doing) is the way to go, so don’t feel insecure. The time will come when you show off the abs…along with the mass lol.

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Hey All, just thought I’d give an update on my mini cut. I started out with a minor caloric deficit, mainly just cutting out excess empty calories like pop and juice, and then went onto a moderate carb cycle, before settling on a basic rule of just adding 10 100 yard sprints after each workout, severly cutting down carbs after breakfast, and upping my protein significantly.

So far I’m down 7 plds, and actually have gotten slightly stronger so overall its a success. Here are a few pics to show some progress in terms of overall bodyfat %, and I’m consideirng my progress so far a success, though I had a mild case of strep which forced me a few days out of the gym, and possibly a bit too much muscle loss.

This pic here I think shows more overall leanness, which allows my lats to come out a lot better.

Once again, sorry for the lack of back and leg pics, I will eventually get some, but I just cant really get very many good angles on my own for my back, and my legs are still below my upper body, though I have been hitting them hard recently, and was able to put up incline leg press up 630 for 4 sets of 8, which is miles and miles ahead of what I used to be able to do.

Well anyways, I’m leaving this Friday, so just wanted to show how it went. Feel free to critique/comment/post your concerns and thanks again for all the advice and encouragement.

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Horrible posing on this one, but here is one of me unpumped after just waking up. In my opinion, my pecs have significant more shape and tone to them. Arm looks shitty, but was unpumped, before I had anything to eat and shitty posing job, don’t worry I havent lost that much mass

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My avatar pic, right after an arm workout. Weird flex job, but I was just bored, and I think it actually shows how impressive (relatively) my arms are comparatively.

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You should work on delts now bro

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[quote]celtics2022 wrote:
You should work on delts now bro[/quote]
Yeah, they are certainlly a weak spot right now, and I think I’ll get on that. In your opinion was the ratio of fat lost to muscle lost seem acceptable, or am I really just shrinking myself?

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[quote]VerbalHologram wrote:

[quote]celtics2022 wrote:
You should work on delts now bro[/quote]
Yeah, they are certainlly a weak spot right now, and I think I’ll get on that. In your opinion was the ratio of fat lost to muscle lost seem acceptable, or am I really just shrinking myself?[/quote]

It seemed fine but I would cut for another week or two then bulk and focus on lateral/rear delts and lats/teres major

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Not like a cut is a permanent or even a long-term thing. You can cut for a month or two to see what you’ve built and then slowly up your calories again.

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Good job, so far.

Generally speaking, that’s hard to say with a mix-up of upper body photos, pumped and unpumped, carbed-up and ‘de-carbed’. Tape measurements can be helpful, so be your own judge.

Judging only from the photos you’ve provided, though, you look a lot better and not in the least less muscular - quite the opposite, actually.

If I were you, I’d just truck along with carb cycling until I’d hit a bf level I’d be comfortable with and then try to gain new muscle mass by incorporating sensible manipulations in your food regimen. I got the impression that you hadn’t been happy when being the fat kid (I’m referring to your pre-bb fatty times, not to your pre-diet constitution which wasn’t fat at all), so maybe you might want to take it slowly from after your cut - at least until you’ve figured out what works best for you (see below).

  1. pre-, peri- and post-workout nutrition
  2. sensible caloric increase

By sensible caloric increase I’m referring to the fact that you’d been obese, once. So, the see-food diet which might work for skinny average Joe might backfire on you. Hence, increase your caloric input slowly and see how your body reacts to it. And keep in mind that caloric increase shouldn’t be treated as a disparate entity: timing can be very important as well as food choices.

Once you’ve figured out what works best for you, you’ll have a much easier time guesstimating how much fat you might gain given a certain caloric increase. That’s invaluable data for your bodybuilding ‘career’, giving you more power over your body than you might think, right now.

Re: timing
The brunt of your carbs pre-training (simple carbs) and after waking up (complex carbs). The latter one might prove difficult if you train first thing in the morning. You see, some people might tell you it might become a tad complicated, but it’s pretty much KISS imho.

Re: food choices
As you’ve already lined out, cutting processed food alone can go a long way in helping you get cut without really compromising muscle. I, for one, have found out that I tolerate oat meal in the morning and beans in the evening pretty well. I’ve even lost fat with that approach while I wasn’t training at all, without a big change in bottom line caloric intake.

Man, I’ve written a wall of text. Take what you want from it and keep it up. Your build is really impressive, especially given your age.

Good work and luck!

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Thanks a lot man, sorry for the late response but I had a hectic last few days before I went, and I just got back this morning. Your advice will be implemented, and I look forward to showing off further progress in a couple months.

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What about a logbook? Should be pretty interesting. =)