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Look at studies regarding cognitive function and daily smokers over prolonged periods of time (heavy daily use mind you)… some studies indicate the deficits only last between 72hr-1 month post abstinence, others indicate perhaps deficits are permenant, esp when use is initiated prior to the age of 17… we don’t have enough general research pertaining to marijuana to come to an adequate conclusion due to restrictions imposed via it being (unfairly) schedule I (or equivalent in most countries)… Occasional use for most appears relatively harmless, nothing compared to even mild/moderate rates of drinking in terms of neurological/overall damage induced.

NDMA receptor blockcade mediated neurotoxicity is a huge concern with ketamine use/abuse. ketamine induced neurotoxicity is dose/situation dependent, there is literature to state in an acute setting (for certain circumstances) perhaps ketamine may elicit a neurodegenerative via BDNF activation. Prolonged abuse of ketamine is neurotoxic. The effect of ketamine on neurology pertaining to occasional users/anaesthetic use (for those frequently put under) remains relatively unknown.

Addict? I haven’t partied since December, and my exposure to recreational drugs doesn’t pertain to frequent use… aside from cannabis it’s merely a number of select occasions. The drug I’ve personally had problem with is alcohol, wherein I would drink not to have fun/for recreation, but to numb pain/anxiety. Neither problematic episode regarding booze lasted very long as I managed to realise it was problematic behavior and thus quit drinking abruptly. Haven’t been drunk since December. It should be noted this wasn’t an addiction either, it was substance abuse as a crutch… There was no semblance of psychical addiction, otherwise quitting cold turkey would’ve induced serious withdrawal symptoms/potentially killed me. Admittedly stopping abruptly the second time wasn’t exactly the easiest thing I’ve ever done, it wasn’t comparable to the most difficult thing I’ve ever had to do either.

Alright, if you’ve got an 85% occlusion in multiple arteries, try eating a healthier diet to reverse the buildup… tell me how that goes. The problem is you fundamentally don’t understand the process of plaque build up, theoretically one may be able to reduce the amount of plaque they have… but it’d stem from MAJOR lifestyle changes over a very long period of time… continually using AAS during this time won’t allow for this.

You’re the one justifying certain behaviors by refusing to believe scientific literature on the basis of anecdote, using an “but I’m fine, I haven’t died yet thus it’s not dangerous” type logic. DNP lowers you’re WBC count, sometimes to the point of inducing life threatening agranulocytosis. This is about the worst thing you could possibly do during a pandemic scenario revolving around a viral illness.

You’re case report refers to an elderly male with a host of health ailments (and potential neurodegeneration to begin with), giving him (or anyone) opiates for that matters effects executive function… Just as taking a few hits off a joint (non medicinal and without a tolerance) five minutes before a test would deleteriously impact test performance. The impact doesn’t appear to be permenant following abstinence. Opiates acutely do fuck with cognition, they’re highly sedating… And they give the user a “high” (can’t say I’ve ever understood what it’s all about), but some people love them. Aside from fentanyl and the prospect of addiction (so long as you know what you’re getting) opiates aren’t actually that dangerous (acutely). If you take 20mg oxycodone (say you’re a kid and you stole you’re grandma’s prescription… Apparently people do this… this is an incredibly stupid thing to do) it’s a hell of a lot safer than binge drinking to reach an equatable state of intoxication. Doesn’t pertain significance as not many people who use oxycodone, heroin etc use it “just once”, it happens, but it’s rare.

So around 1.5g/wk, not extremely heavy, not mild either. Given the strength of test/primo mg/mg in comparison to test alone I’d say this is fairly reasonable. No problem there

Our opinions align here, aside from the cooperation aspect… I get agitated by the amount of people who buy into this “deep state cooperate conspiracy theory” within the medical industry. Yes, these large companies are focused on making a profit, but generally (aside from alcohol/tobacco) these companies aren’t interested in hurting their consumer base. The only time I harbour mistrust/skepticism related to the government, the establishment as a whole. Many a times I believe politicians and/cooperations have a vested interest at heart, same can be said about large cooperations. The criminalising of marijuana to begin with was based on hatred towards immigrants, people of different race etc… Not because it was a legitimate detriment to the populace. If anything, criminalising the substance made it far more popular than it otherwise would’ve been.

My problem here is when you refer to “cooperations” you’re talking about the medical community, at least I think you are. It is within the medical communities best interest to keep the populace healthy in order to lessen burden on an already taxed healthcare system. We have enough problems stemming from shitty lifestyles, disease (autoimmune for instance), congenital etc for medical professionals to earn through visitations.

Actually 1-2x yearly my chronic pain will flare up briefly. During which time I’m happy to take the pain medication prescribed in my name at the dosage indicated.

Agreed, if you can actually afford it without any long term ramifications.

I don’t like hypothetical scenarios here as these are highly implausible. But imagine I decide to act like a massive idiot (actually I know someone who this DID happen to) and decide to take some fentanyl on a night out without any prior experience/tolerance (perhaps I’m drunk, perhaps I’m taking laced xanax/oxycodone… whatever). The second serious respiratory depression sets in I’m given narcan. The amount of damage induced will pale in comparison to cycling over many years/taking DNP. Keep in mind you’ve said ALMOST overdosing. A benzodiazepine overdose probably won’t kill you either so long as it isn’t combined with other substances, nor is it likely to seriously harm/induce structure alterations to you’re internal organs.

Almost overdosing on alcohol once (so I throw up) but I’m not paralytic/requiring paramedics probably won’t kill me/induce significant harm if it was ONCE and only once, granted there are case reports of acute myocardial infarction etc) stemming from otherwise healthy, yet highly inebriated young people. Furthermore I probably won’t acquire cardiomyopathy (aside from the VERY rare instance of binge ethanol induced takotsubo cardiomyopathy… reversible), renal/liver failure (you said, nearly overdose… Not overdose overdose) from getting very drunk once… It is possible, though unlikely. I’d be more likely to die from behaving like an idiot/getting hit by a car from wondering into the street, getting into a fight etc.

How, by telling you flirting with potentially near lethal dosages of drugs is a bad idea? Or by telling you there are long term implications regarding you’re decisions? You’re the one who has decided to completely ignore current science/literature on the basis of “corperatinos have vested interests”.

Which corporations? The majority of scientific research is funded via government grants, you make a request… if they approve, you’ve got the funding (very simple way off putting it). Typically the government won’t be heavily involved within the study and many studies pertaining to the health status/implications of AAS use outwardly try account for bias. The case reports of sudden death, cardiomyopathy, renal/hepatic failure stemming from AAS use (hepatic failure being sole to C17AA compounds) aren’t “bias” or “corporate bullshit”… neither are the MANY case reports that exist regarding DNP fatalities.

You can’t get on the treadmill for more than five minutes… does this scream “healthy, no adverse effects” to you?

What’s you’re current resting heart rate on Clen, DNP, tren, EQ and test… if it’s over 90, does that scream healthy to you?

How so? What BS? Which part of my messages are clouded in BS, give me exact specifics pertaining to the exact “corporations” at fault here. If you wished for me too believe perhaps in part due to government propaganda during the 80s/90s anabolic steroids were unnecessarily scheduled as a controlled substance (because cheating in sport, can’t have non American’s winning). That they shouldn’t be stigmatised because they aren’t as dangerous as they’re made out to be… that there’s a TON of public ignorance today regarding AAS etc I’d believe you. As a matter of fact the FDA, congress etc opposed the ban, stipulating they weren’t dangerous drugs of addiction (at least in an acute setting).

Societally we unjustly are very tough on AAS. Unlike marijuana, recreational drugs etc I don’t believe public opinion regarding anabolic androgenic steroids will ever shift.

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On a happy note, i recieved some of the weights i ordered today so i can keep busy.

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Now all thats missing is the bench i ordered, the squat rack, the olympic bar and 4 50lbs plates and then i can really have some fun :sunglasses:

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Im pretty sure ketamin does fuck you up, regardless of being neuroprotective, i dont think science knows enough to give any absolute answers to everything, but they are good at giving some answer to whatever question especially if someone can line their pocket with it. Doctors are master of this by the way. The trick to influencing people to buy your bullshot is to be as credibale as possible so you will hear 90-98% truth but then when there is a vested intrest thats where they get you.

I didnt mean you are a junky sitting under a bridge somewhere replying to these messages, im just saying if you have the type of personality that allows yourself to become addicted once, chances are you have shifted you addiction. Maybe your addicted to scientific literature what do i know?

Regarding plaque buildup its some sort of inlammation that the wbc form around and create a crust or something like that?
But your saying there is a way to reverse? Because i must have missunderstood you earlier when i heard its irreversible.

Just to make things clear my cycles are trt of test and 600mg of a mild steroid, so 800mg total. Trust me i have more respect for these types of substances than you would assume, mostly because im prone to the side effect hereditarily (is that how you spell it?).

Im not a conspiracy theorist in the sense that i think everyone is aligned in an interest that is mallicious, i just strongly believe that people put their own interest over others, and when you say the medical industry doesnt have an interest in harming their patients, let me ask you this: whats more profitable for them, a solution or a returning customer? As long as the fix is temporary enough to make it seem like its working they will come back.
And im not saying all doctors are like that, most of them think they are doing good (which they are for the most part) but they are oblivious to the futility of their work which is built in the system they work for.
Unless they are getting a piece of the pie in that case they are very much aware.

As for the tobacco industry i dont think it was purely racial motivated, i think the leaders of the time saw the kind of lack of productivity marajuana brings about and decided it was wiser to outlaw it for the economys sake. And it didnt hurt that washington already owned a bunch of tobacco farms in virginia, much easier for him to just keep things as they were instead of competing with his livelyhood.
But as i said alcohol is a social drug it brings people together, tobacco has a psychoactive effects that last very short so these drugs were deemed wiser from a socio economic standpoint.

Just like when a mechanic or a roofer fix one problem but creates another these industries turn a blind eye because they need to pay their student loans or cocain habit or whatever the fuck they need 50k a month for.

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No, I was referring to the prohibition of cannabis. Henry Anslinger enforced propaganda, prohibitive measures on the substance. It was racially motivated, an effort to stigmatise immigrants/African Americans. Lack of productivity wasn’t the prime concern, esp given only a very, very small portion of the populace was using at the time.

Addicted is a rough term. The first problematic phase lasted 1-2 weeks, the second episode lasted 3-4 weeks, not exactly an addiction. Problematic use/abuse yes, but I wouldn’t call it addiction.

I’ve had genetic testing done (myheritage type things) Interestingly it DID find I harbour many genes pertaining to risk factors for alcoholism, but I’m unlikely to become a heavy smoker (based on genes) relating to both cannabis and tobacco.

Not far off though, I’m a 19y/o kid on a gap year. I’ve been open about my age on here. I’ve had many problems throughout my life (medically) hence why I’m on TRT. Certainly not a junkie though.

As to cannabis and motivation, it does appear to depend on the individual. I know of a few highly, highly successful individuals who make a lot of money, own businesses etc yet they’ve smoked marijuana daily for many years, in some cases starting during childhood. Individualistic reaction differs but generally cannabis isn’t quite as benign as it’s made out to be. The relationship between psychosis/schizophrenia is hotly debated, a “link” may exist, but a casual cause effect relationship hasn’t been found. Furthermore studies that link THC exposure (after the age of seventeen) with chronic psychosis typically only relate to chronic, heavy, daily abuse. Frequencies of 1x wk or less appear to have little correlation unless talking about children.

Cannabis was prohibited around the same time prohibition failed (prohibition of a substance magnitudes more dangerous)

Perhaps, as is cannabis within the correct circumstances. The difference is that alcohol tends to induce profound disinhibition. If you spent a day in my shoes, went to a few of the parties I’ve been to you’d see alcohol certainly isn’t safe… Fights, risky sexual behavior, destruction of property, antisocial behavior, acute psychosis in some, mood swings, near fatal respiratory depression. Aside from this, acutely and chronically the systemic toxicity stemming from ethanol is like… 100x that of marijuana alone.

In my opinion marijuana needn’t be stigmatised whilst alcohol is needlessly accepted, I find those who accept booze but stigmatise against people who casually prefer a joint on the basis of societal acceptance without looking at the literature pertaining to both substances to be irritating.

I see no reason as to why certain individuals at family Friday night dinner can drink a little bit too much (or those with alcohol related issues have 8 drinks on a casual Friday night Shabbas) and no one bats an eye… Yet if I were to consume a pot brownie/take one hit off a joint (obviously i’ve never done this in front of my extended family, just referring to attitudes) I’ll be thought of as a delinquent, an addict right off the bat… It’s heinous, that guy on his 8th glass of whisky for the night ought to be looked into. But no one cares, because it’s alcohol… somehow that’s better. Booze is FAR more addictive than most give it credit for.

An Analytical study from the lancelet looking at various substances on the basis of

  • harm induced to user
  • addictive potential
  • harm induced to others
    Came up with this neat little graph

Anabolic steroids for one as a generalisation are far less harmful than heavy drinking on a daily basis

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There are methodological flaws here, still interesting.

This isn’t to say cannabis is good… It’s not, but I simply can’t fathom why this substance still has such a stigma attached to it, why people are still locked up for substance possession pertaining to substances that are probably safer in an acute setting then alcohol.

Plaque reversal if possible is very difficult… Extensive plaque reversal is probably not feasible, stents do exist though (surgical procedure). Mast cells (heparin secretion), neutrophils (endothelial dysfunction, MPO induced LDL alteration etc), do play a role regarding plaque build up. But the risk of plaque build up is arterial occlusion/rupture. Other mechanisms exist (lipid oxidation etc), yet from my limited base of knowledge the entire process as to why plaque build up occurs is unknown

Plaque is encased within a fibrous cap… As more plaque builds up, this cap is stretched/weakened. The more this cap weakens, the more prone it is to rupture, upon plaque rupture, a thrombus forms, the clot blocks the artery, a certain portion of the heart receives no blood.

Oh, in this case I apologise, that’s totally fine. Why the Clen/DNP though? Can’t you lose BF without resorting to DNP… The Clen isn’t so much the issue as the DNP is, and that combo is risky.

Furthermore the main question stems… Why are you continuing to cycle when you can’t get to gym… Why not run a cruise/bridge? You don’t have to come off entirely, but you don’t have to cycle either… Why not save a cycle for a time wherein you can make the best of said cycle?

There are a finite amount of cycles one can run before shit generally hits the fan (for most, some are like… Just immortal)

Finally, CBC, get a CBC… Developing polycythemia can be an issue if HCT rises above say 55%, some will become symptomatic (red skin, shortness of breath etc). Whether mildly elevated RBC/HCT predisposed one to thrombus is unknown, AAS alter certain clotting factors, induce platelet aggregation thus I’d be inclined think you don’t want thick blood + platelet aggregation.

If you can get cardiac imaging, that’d be fantastic!

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IMO, you should be cruising right now, it is less risk right now than what you are doing. Plus corona is going around and you have minimal workout equipment.

It sounds a bit like your priorities are a bit mixed up. You ordered $1000 worth of gym equipment to your hotel room? This makes no sense to me. You are not competing in anything, but taking a whole slew of drugs to look good, but for who? No beaches are going to be open for a while, I doubt clubs will be open anytime soon. I just can’t make any sense of it.

Don’t mess with your thyroid. I am sure you look good enough by yourself in you hotel room anyways. Additionally, the strain you are putting on your heart is significant. You will likely be fine now, but do you want to be that guy who has major regrets in his 50s? I know several past powerlifting competitors who say they wish they would have done things differently (more responsibility).

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According to wikipedia (if you want to use that as a credible source) even before anslinger started his campaign there was tension in sonora area where small time farmers were outcompeting large scale farmers due to the cheap labour mexicans that would smoke alot of weed and that was the first drug bust in US history, so there were economical motivations behind it.
Nevermind.

We are all addicted to food and water and air so yeah addicted is a vague term,

Regarding
Cannabis and motivation i know people are different, me for example i get anti social on weed because it induces mild paranoia for me, alcohol on the other hand never makes me aggressive it only calms me down and puts me in a good mood so everyone is different.
And yes there are alot of successful people who at the end of the day just look for excuses to get fucked up (me being one of them) but what happens when you dont have any real reason to get out of bed, ypu end up using all day long, and coffee and least gets you motivation, shit alcohol might even get you inspired to do something but weed makes you go back to sleep.

The graph isnt very indicitive because i think it has to do with access to these compounds mostly.

Well, incase you havent seen i just bought a bunch of stuff so i can workout while im waiting for the corona virus to blow over. I cant imagine not having so.ething productive to do during this time, and to be honest as soon as this is all over in going to be way too busy with starting a new company so i figured now is the time.

Okay i dont have access to a proper hospital as they are all full of corona pateints and nobody cares enough to give me a cbc, but since i am running eq, and because i love eq so much i might bump the dose on that a little bit, what do you recommend i take for supplementation to prevent bloodclots or whatever that wont hinder my gains?

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Addicted (to me) refers to neurological imbalance inducing craving. Water is a requirement for survival, not an addiction. But yes, addiction doesn’t have to refer to substance abuse. Addiction to food, gambling, shopping, sex can be crippling for the individual afflicted. Unfortunately as a society we don’t cater towards helping/rehabilitating criminals. Where I live we merely cater to locking up/penalising offenders caught with minute quantities of illicit substances. Gambling addiction isn’t a commodity one is encouraged to seek help for, no addiction is… It appears as if societally we demonize addiction/stigmatise individuals to a point wherein they’re not comfortable seeking help.

Different for everyone. I know many who can function perfectly well on marijuana. Justifying the prohibition of marijuana on the basis of it made less productive (to me mind you) seems silly. Statistics indicate problematic use within teens generally tends to decrease post legalisation, overall has within adults marginally increases or remains the same. There are certainly arguements for justifying marijuana prohibition. But arguing it’s worse than booze/definitively induces unproductivity isn’t one of them. The majority of marijuana smokers rarely use cannabis, a select minority go on to use frequently.

My ideology is, if we treat marijuana/whatever like tobacco once we legalise/regulate, there probably isn’t going to be a whole lot of people (who didn’t use prior) now lining up to use (this is IF we treat it like tobacco, not like we do alcohol). I am NOT for the regulation of highly, highly destructive substances such as crack cocaine, fentanyl, cocaine (though certain societies have legalised minor possession, seems to work out), methamphetamine and heroin. For such substances I cater towards the notion of decriminalisation, government mandated programs doling out maintenance dosages for addicts who simply can’t kick the habit no matter what. For Anabolic steroids, I see no reason as to why milder compounds such as testosterone couldn’t be legalised and used under the scope/monitering of a physician so long as the patient is fully aware of the potential rammifications. Harsher compounds like trenbolone, dimethyldrostanolone etc probably shouldn’t be available legally. With EQ I’d say we probs need more clinical data pertaining to use in humans.

Speaking of which, I believe in 30-40 years from now alcohol will be societally looked down upon similar to tobacco.

I’ve argued this prior. A bottle of vodka costs me 40-50$ here, I can have MDMA at my doorstep (despite the fact that I live rurally) in twenty minutes for a price far cheaper than booze, keep in mind I’ve never actually taken this before. For kids under the age of 18 here it’s FAR easier to acquire illigal drugs than alcohol unless parents buy the booze (which unfortunately does happen… What fucking parent buys their 15-16y/o kid a twelve pack for a party…). Marijuana in particular is widely, widely available… All drugs are, this is a new era of which we live in where we can get practically anything we want through the click of a button. No longer do you have to “know a guy”, it’s ALL widely available just as alcohol is widely available.

The truth is, complications (acute and chronic, physical and psychological) in nature stemming from alcohol alone are numerous and extensive… From cannabis (for most)… Not so much…

You generally don’t need to worry about this unless you have polycythemia, in which case an aspirin a day (baby aspirin) should theoretically reduce risk… With the cocktail of drugs you’re on you’re most likely to die from lethal hyperthermia/arrythmia

Should also be noted Harry Anslinger initially said cannabis use was “no big deal”… Around 1930 (when prohibition began to dismantle) he started creating a big fuss about cannabis use. I don’t believe Anslinger criminalised pot due to lack of productivity… He was just a racist asshole, there’s a good documentary on this. He struggled to find any scientist willing to back his opinion… He went through scores, eventually finding one that said “okay”… Prooaganda, criminalization and films like “reefer madness” ensued… Prohibition lasted roughly ten years if I’m not mistaken, this bullshit has gone on for almost 100

I wouldn’t be so irritated about this if it weren’t for the fact that non Caucasian men/women are disproportionately arrested and incarcerated for this, otherwise law abiding citizens are arrested for this… It costs more to write up the paperwork/arrest Joe and potentially incarcerate him over a marijuana cigarette than it does to just let him go. He was minding his business, he didn’t hurt anyone.

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Dont want to argue,just want to say… tren and dnp together… you dont respect your health man. If u ever thinking of taking this shit its ONLY with some dose test like 150-250mg lets say… anyway you will not build up muscle while on dnp so why run anything else? And its really dangerous especially tren+dnp+clen… uff

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Don’t know about where you’re currently located. But in the US, AUS etc you can pay for private bloods. If you can afford spending 1 grand on gym equipment which you’ll discard in a few weeks you can probably afford private bloods.

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Im in thailand at the moment, and the way the are treating foreigners here who have contracted the virus makes me want to steer clear of any hospitals untill this whole shit blows over.

There was this british dude who recovered from the virus a few days ago and they arent recieving him back to the guesthouse he was staying at because he has a record of having had the virus.
They treat them like leppers here.

I would rather stay safe in my room now that i have my equipment being delivered untill this whole thing is over.

Btw - turns out my dnp is tainted, the supplier agreed to send me another batch for free because it has apparently drawn moisture or whatever excuse he came up with.
No wonder i wasnt feeling it, i have bad dnp.
So i will be upping the dose to atleast 600mg (which in all fairness is probably alot less).
As for steroids im injecting e5d, is that good enough for blood plasma levels?

Eq 400mg
Test e 300mg
Tren e 100/140mg
Hcg 500 iu

E5d

Dnp as much as needed to feel the heat, not more than 4 caps a day, and i will probably skip the clen for my hearts sake.

If i feel lethargic i have some t3 as i hear it helps with that and is necessary if you are running dnp longer than 3 weeks.

Plenty of antioxidants ofcourse.
And omega 3

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Gotta ask for future reference (if I ever travel again… #recession). Is gear OTC is Thailand or have they cracked down on this?

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In bangkok its significantly harder to get it because there is apparently officially some sort of ban, however if you go to sukhumvit road, soi 7 you will find three pharmacies that still sell anything younwant from a catalogue.
Sometimes you have to come back that evening to collect because they dont always keep stuff on stock.
Cops will see you buy a bunch of steroids and not mess with you, probably there is some sort of cooperation between the police and these three pharmacies.

In pattaya you can find any steroids in most pharmacies and it might even be slightly cheaper there.
If you want i can take a picture of their menu with prices and post it here?

They have literally everything, and its waaay cheaper than what you get it for in mexico for example.

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Not on here, but send me an email… Unreal24278 is intrigued, email is in my profile bio. I was thinking of perhaps going down there sometime this year (on a gap year) for 3-4 weeks to exercise… like full time… Full moon parties also occur a few times each year, certainly wouldn’t mind attending one (it seems many highly attractive women frequent these full moon events). If Coronavirus spread isn’t contained come August however this idea would be a bust.

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Also, question for anyone who has experience with DNP.

Ive been on for 3 weeks now, I have an unlimited amount of DNP, should I go of for a week and then go back on or just continue with some t3?

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Ok i will send you the catalogue in the next few days.

Fucking sucks that since ive switched to long esthers i have water retention, feels like im getting fater.

And to top it off the dnp i have is like the worst quality I have ever bought, discoloration, hardly potent at all.

What should I do to keep the water off? Or should I just let it be

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Im not sure if i know that…but if u want to see the results that u got from dnp,you need about 7days to after u stop using it. Because on dnp u just flat… then the water goes off,etc…and boom

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What are you using (anything new). Long estered trenbolone won’t cause serious edema. With EQ it’s unlikely, with test… perhaps. Why do you care whether you’ve got a bit of water retention? No one will be looking at you in self-isolation.

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Yeah i know the water retention on dno dissapears after 3-5 days. But for me i dont have any usually first thing in the morning, also i am eating hish carb meals and not sweating nearly as much as i should be.

Currently I am taking
eq 653 mg ew
Test e 490 mg ew
Tren e 186 mg ew

I actually do see a difference since i started however im not getting the same sides from the dnp as i did in the beginning of the cycle (was also using another brand for the first few days) and i realize that i have bags under my eyes that wont go away no matter how many hours i sleep, cant help but thinking its from the dnp.

Today i took 25mcg of t3 40mcg clen with 200mg dnp and went for an hour walk (i have been neglecting taking walks).
So i think i go down in dnp and just through in a little clen and t3 and focus on going for a long strole on a daily basis.
Didnt feel anything unusual with the heart while the clen and t3 were added, infact it feels my heart is under more strain during high doses of dnp with high carbs, i think i will try this regimen for a week and see how it goes.

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Man I can’t condone this at all… You do you but this is dangerous territory.

Edit: you know prolonged T3 administration will shut down thyroid production… When you stop, rebound hypothyroidism will occur, you’ll feel shit… Thyroid function tends to come back fairly quickly however… But you’ll gain some fat whilst metabolic rate decreases.

DNP is only really meant to be used for 2 wks or so due to just how toxic it is.

What’s you’re resting heart rate? Just curious. Take you’re pulse, count how many times you’re heart beats in 15 seconds… Multiply by four

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I feel like my body is in the fat burning zone today more than before, mayne because the t3?

But hypothetically what would you suggest if we were to put health issues on the back burner for now and focus on sustainable results, what do you think would be better,
Should i come off dnp and run clen with t3 for a week or so and then go back to dnp only for a couple of weeks, or should i continue to run dnp with t3 for a couple of weeks and add the clen after im done with the dnp and t3?
Or should final option maybe my least favorite one is to run high doses of Dnp without clen and t3?