DNP into Test/Deca. Calorie Counting, Training Hard, Gaining Fat!?

Archiving old posts for personal reasons

I have a few theories. Please take this as constructive conversation.

Dnp is poison. Literally. Not figuratively. Literally. Unless you’re in contest prep there is no reason to use it. It is a last ditch, Hail Mary effort to burn as much of your body weight off as possible. And it burns muscle too. It’s an indiscriminate killer. Yes, I know it helps target fat with a greater affinity than muscle, but it’s still poison. You have an unhealthy relationship with your physical image. I know this because 18% body fat doesn’t make you a “fat fuck” and it doesn’t warrant taking poison to drop weight. You are risking your life for short term fat loss. That isn’t healthy, my friend.

As far as why your lean bulk isn’t so lean I would take a look at the compounds you’re running and ask yourself if they fit your goals. Anadrol causes bloat and no amount of AI will stop that. Test and Deca both aromatize. You’re running three wet compounds together and you’re surprised that you’re gaining some fat and water. You want a lean bulk? Drop test to TRT levels, run EQ at a decent dose, and throw in some Mast. You’ll need much less AI, you’ll get less bloat (if any), and you’ll be able to do more cardio (because of the EQ), which should help in general.

I seriously think you need to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you feel so badly about your self image. DNP isn’t safe, man. If you need to lose fat and you won’t take no for an answer then at least try something like T3, which has actual medical use and a ton of studies showing its safety, efficacy, etc. Don’t risk your life for some fat loss.

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People who lose fat in blitz diets, with supplements, or in your case - by attempted suicide, gain it back just as fast as they lost it. You bulked right after destroying your body. You’re essentially right back where you started. Can’t offer any advice on switching your cycle, but i hope this is a live and learn experience for you, because DNP scares the shit out of me.

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No fucking shit. It’s like the idiots I see on here running assloads of gear end on end. Oh sweet I’ll be the most jacked dude in the cemetery. Ind things about yourself to love besides just the body image that you think you see which is almost always false. When I feel like I’m getting.l bloated it’s alwyas the time my wife is like damn honey you’re even more filled out! Just relax and take the journey slow.

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would a higher dose of Test alone not be beneficial for a lean bulk @iron_yuppie? or are you suggesting the additional drugs because more muscle can be accrued over a shorter period of time with those 3 combined versus say 500mg of Test p/w? or are you taking into account the fact that a high level of test may have sides to the degree of water retention for the op?

I ask because I am planning a 12-16 week bulk at the start of the year and I was “only” planning on running 500mg test per week. doesn’t the lean bulk idea have more to do with nutrition than drugs?

If your diet is right then you shouldn’t need anything other than a good test dose for your goals. Adding other compounds makes sense when they each have a specific function within a cycle, but I don’t think that’s necessary for most guys.

This guy’s case was special because he had a serious mental issue with his body and I believed that having a lot of wet drugs would make things worse visually for his wellbeing.

ah okay I understand you. when you say specific function, if the specific function is to gain muscle whilst staying lean, can’t that be attributed to test without the need for other drugs, if diet is on point? I suppose at some point there’ll be diminishing returns actually, however wouldn’t this be some time in the future? like 4th or 5th cycle?

Absolutely, yes. But at a certain level of training/experience the added drugs can make a difference. But that’s also pretty advanced and most people can really get away with a test-only cycle plan for the rest of their lives. But guys like to experiment and that’s perfectly reasonable of everything else is in line.

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