Makes you puke
I heard about this from a lot of people in the gyms and all but hadn’t seen it until now.
I’ve never, ever seen something so obscenely ridiculous. Total fix.
Lots of credit to Teddy and the other American announcer for calling a spade a spade. Atlas rules.
Since the result of this fight was overturned, they should give Roy Jones Jr his gold medal. Yeah, after all these years, I’m still pissed. lol
awful…
Olympic boxing is poisonous to boxing as a whole. Both from a legitimacy perspective and a technical perspective.
The scoring system is an absolute joke. It produces a bunch of fighters who can ONLY “fight” under the Olympic style, it is literally like a game of tag. Hooks and uppercuts are rarely scored, there is no appreciation for advanced technical concepts or effectiveness of punches and the scoring often seems incredibly biased.
And when you have governments slipping money into the pockets of officials, it’s so much easier to rig a match.
Is it any surprise that these days Olympic gold medalists in boxing often go on to have poor professional careers, while the one’s who either don’t do so well at the Olympics or don’t bother at all end up being GREAT pros?
Australia had it’s gold medal hope tied up in Damien Hooper at the moment, and looking at how he fights, I picked it straight away and I said to my friend: he’ll do very well as an amateur, and then he’ll go nowhere in the professional arena.
[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
Olympic boxing is poisonous to boxing as a whole. Both from a legitimacy perspective and a technical perspective.
The scoring system is an absolute joke. It produces a bunch of fighters who can ONLY “fight” under the Olympic style, it is literally like a game of tag. Hooks and uppercuts are rarely scored, there is no appreciation for advanced technical concepts or effectiveness of punches and the scoring often seems incredibly biased.
And when you have governments slipping money into the pockets of officials, it’s so much easier to rig a match.
Is it any surprise that these days Olympic gold medalists in boxing often go on to have poor professional careers, while the one’s who either don’t do so well at the Olympics or don’t bother at all end up being GREAT pros?
Australia had it’s gold medal hope tied up in Damien Hooper at the moment, and looking at how he fights, I picked it straight away and I said to my friend: he’ll do very well as an amateur, and then he’ll go nowhere in the professional arena.
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The worst part is that people have no idea how it’s scored, or that knocking a guy down twice in one round is equivalent to landing two jabs. Try explaining that to them and they go, “Wow, that’s stupid,” and I go… “Yea. Yea it is.”
I always say that it’s like if they played college football on a 130 yard field with no pads and eight guys, and then threw you into the NFL and said, “Hey, the rules are all different, sorry, but have fun!”
The whole Olympic boxing should be cancelled this year. There’s no true way to tell which apples are spoiled and which aren’t
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
The whole Olympic boxing should be cancelled
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FIFY.
Maybe I should know to expect no better, but it pisses me off there’s not a bigger outcry over this. Fucking pathetic.
Boxing people are used to this shit. Its almost commonplace throughout the sport. Its 100% worse at the olympics because they score tags not solid punches. Olympic boxing is just no good.
Maybe some of the older guys can tell me but was it ever good? Did olympic boxing way back actually have prestige and solid competition?
A small morsel of food for thought: Professional athletes are used in Hockey, Basketball, water polo, soccer,tennis, etc…Maybe the US should consider professional fighters,granted, it will not change the judging, but, WTF, lets send the best… Actually, its not food for thought, its lack of caffeine talking this morning…
I mentioned this in a much earlier thread, but next year will see some harmonisation between amateur and pro rules that should end this type of nonsense.
This is a link to an article on the French Boxing Association website for those who can read French, followed by my translation:
http://www.ffboxe.com/edito-du-president2.php?id=589
In order to remove the gap between amateur and professional boxing the rules will be harmonised. In 2013, after the Olympic games, headguards will no longer be authorized. We will revert to a 10-9 type scoring system as in professional boxing, with paper scoring giving way to the computer scoring system currently used in the WSB. The AIBA’s aim is to provide boxing that is more spectacular in every way, and in a historic decision, professional boxers will be able to compete in the Olympics from 2016 onwards, with three routes of entry available: amateur boxing, the WSB, and now the Professional AIBA (APB).
[quote]idaho wrote:
A small morsel of food for thought: Professional athletes are used in Hockey, Basketball, water polo, soccer,tennis, etc…Maybe the US should consider professional fighters,granted, it will not change the judging, but, WTF, lets send the best… Actually, its not food for thought, its lack of caffeine talking this morning… [/quote]
In soccer there are special rules in place: a team cannot have more than three players age 23 or older.
I don’t know if there is enough incentive for a pro, at least an established, quality pro, to enter the Olympics. Pro basketball players probably have sponsorship deals that make it worthwhile.
Hey if we sent pros, we might actually be able to see Pac and Mayweather fight…
The only problem I have with allowing pros to compete is it literally tears away any chance a young amateur has at winning.
Talented young fighter with a stellar amateur career looking to put the cherry on top before he goes pro? His dream gets cut short when he gets into the ring with a P4P top 5 fighter who is not only the same kind of talent, but has about 10 years of professional experience on top of it.
Absolute slaughter.
Then again I suppose the point can be made that pros on that level have no real incentive to compete in the olympics, they’d make more money off their fights and endorsement deals already.
i am speechless. wow.
i am not sure about the head gear part. I am all for fighters safety, plenty of time to get hit directly in the skull as a professional, keep the amateurs in headgear!
“Everybody here should look at themselves and realize why this sport, is considered a joke.” WOW. I am a firm believer now. Blatant. Terrible.
what is almost as amazing, is how little press coverage this is getting. an obvious and pretty much PROVED fix, and it is NOT the leading story in any sports section of any media outlet?
The current scoring system was put in place because of the Roy Jones’ robbery at the 1988 Olympics. The IOC knows for a fact, as the investigated, that the judges were “influenced” by South Korean officials yet they didn’t give Jones the gold even with that knowledge. Thus, it doesn’t surprise me that this latest incident doesn’t get a lot of attention. Seems to me it isn’t a question of scoring system as much as it is about the people who are doing the scoring.