[quote]IvanTheTerrible wrote:
Maybe it’s the placebo effect… maybe it’s mental… you be the judge.
I ate a total of 3600 calories yesterday… up 1000 calories from the day before (2700).
I also had juice with my shake this morning at 5:45AM, and instead of downing it, I sipped it throught my workout.
My energy levels at the gym were through the roof. I added weight to all my lifts, and overall intensity was crazy.
Was it the extra calories? The juice? My mind?
Who knows… what I do know is that’s it’s a new ball game, now!
Thanks all,
-I[/quote]
Maybe a little but of all the above. I was stuck at the same max in my bench for 2 months. I started eating like a madman and my bench and energy levels shot up. I lifted heavier and got hungrier. Kind of like some biofeedback type shit.
I do mostly compound movements, bench, pull-ups, overhead press in the lower rep ranges, I switch back and forth between 5x3 on Monday and 4x6 on Thursday.
I usually try to hit failure on the last sets.
It seems I make measurable gains about once a month, 1/8" on arms every month is typical.
Though in January I put on 1/4" on arms, it might’ve been because I was pigging out at the pizza buffet more than usual.
when you start seeing progress, its the motivation you need to continue your sacrifices to keep the progress coming
(ps, for those that asked, i have nothing against whole eggs, i was just reminded by one of our local bodybuilders that you can buy containers of eggwhites (2 cartons per package, 500mL total (or 49 g of protein)), for about $3
i am using this mostly so i can drink some extra after i am already full or if i dont have time but still need to get something in me before next meal…so i dont cook them at all (they are pasturized for what its worth, samonella wise),
and just trying to use them in the same way most people would use a shake)…its not cheap, but not too bad considering the price of most protein sources, and the convenience factor
to the OP, it might not be time yet for you to make the sacrifices necessary, but when it comes, nothing will stop you, and you will only wish you did it sooner, so i fully encourage you to pull out all the stops, and “leave no stone unturned”…you will be well pleased of your progress
[quote]brian.m wrote:
when you start seeing progress, its the motivation you need to continue your sacrifices to keep the progress coming
(ps, for those that asked, i have nothing against whole eggs, i was just reminded by one of our local bodybuilders that you can buy containers of eggwhites (2 cartons per package, 500mL total (or 49 g of protein)), for about $3
i am using this mostly so i can drink some extra after i am already full or if i dont have time but still need to get something in me before next meal…so i dont cook them at all (they are pasturized for what its worth, samonella wise),
and just trying to use them in the same way most people would use a shake)…its not cheap, but not too bad considering the price of most protein sources, and the convenience factor
to the OP, it might not be time yet for you to make the sacrifices necessary, but when it comes, nothing will stop you, and you will only wish you did it sooner, so i fully encourage you to pull out all the stops, and “leave no stone unturned”…you will be well pleased of your progress[/quote]
You do realize that the bioavailability of those uncooked whites is really low? As in you are getting far less protein absorbed through the gut into the blood by not cooking them. Cooked whole eggs are one of the only 100% bioavailable proteins around. the egg white only are about 60% [off hand, been ages since i looked at the info]. and uncooked egg whites are basically fuck all.
Might wanna switch to something like a vegan powder [milk free] or a container of hard boiled whole eggs. I also like to cut strips of steak into long “bar’s” and call them “BBQ flavour protein bars.” Turkey pepperoni’s are also a good milk free protein high snack that is easy to consume.
[quote]Alex-L wrote:
brian.m wrote:
first of all, you eat 2700 calories…you know what you have to do, and thats all that matters, it doesnt matter if you did a “good job” tracking your baby meals online or not, thats not whats important…i was ALREADY eating close to double you (yes i worked up to it, and yes i threw up trying to learn to eat that much, and yes it worked) and i wasnt growing…so know what i did?
i started eating an extra 30 egg whites a day and drinking oil after meals when appropriate, to get some extra protein and liquid calories, when i’m short on time or whatever
i do this because i cant have any dairy at all (no shakes, milk etc), its kinda gross, i smell like egg farts, and very expensive, but i am going to make awsome progress again…what are YOU going to do to make sure you grow?
Holy cow, I don’t know what i’d do if I couldn’t have dairy. That would really fuck things up if I wanted to bulk. Props if you can get 5000+ calories a day with no shakes/milk.
dairy/milk/shakes prob make up 3000/out of the 5500 calories i’m getting a day. Your allergy or whatever it is must SUCK.
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Fuck that it’s easy. We just eat more animals and nuts etc. Dairy is nice but its not super necessary. You just learn to destroy more hamburgers per day. nom nom nom.
We dairy allergic folk have very strong mastication muscles. fat muscley jaws indeed.
i PM’d Avocado about this to avoid further hijacking, but just incase anybody is reading, i did a little back checking, and it seems that if the egg whites are pasturized, then that seems to make them more readily bioavaliable,
Rather than straight raw, or denaturing the protein like excessive cooking…i’m not 100% on this, but for anybody who was following, look into it (and dont just do what i did, blindly jumping into it because somebody told me, although i will continue with them for a while, so i can see if i noticed a difference or not myself)
[quote]IvanTheTerrible wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, guys.
Ballpark daily schedule:
5:45AM - Protein, whole milk, Organic Coconut Oil, Oats, Berries on my way to the gym at 5:30AM
7AM - Protein with whole milk, frozen berries, oatmeal, and flaxseed meal after workout
7:40AM - 4 eggs, some cheese, 3 toast, avocado 3 1200mg fish oil pills, orange juice, apple
9AM - Coffee
11:30AM - Whey w milk, oatmeal, flaxseed oil and peanut butter
2PM - rice, lots of chicken or lean mince
4PM - 4 slices of turkey and some cheese, vegies, wholemeal brad
7PM - whatever the wife makes. Usually rice, meat of her choice and veggies, with 3 more fish oil pills
9PM - shake before bed with PB, olive oil, whole milk, casein, cottage cheese
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Thats more like it try that.
Lots of olive oil, PB and coconut oil
Lots of bread, rice, pasta, oats
Lots of eggs, steak, chicken fish
2700 cals is nothing. You seem to be on the right track with your training, but why go hardcore on the training, and then eat like a victoria secret model?
Start out one week at a time. This next week coming up, try to up your calories by 1000 per day. Sure you may not hit 1000 extra per day, but its better to aim high.
Whatever you gotta do to get those extra calories, do it. Your diet seems pretty dialed in, so get these extra calories from whatever. (Candy bars, protein bars, bagels + PB, whatever) After one week, then do it again. And monitor your weight. You’ll start gaining weight, trust me.
