Nothing worth having is easy.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Need new work shirts my neck has grown over 9000 inches
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Hahahaha, I had this problem. In fact, I had to get entirely new suits.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Alffi wrote:
Last year around this time I bloated up to 230 or so pounds and looked bad. I then leaned down to around 180 pounds and still could not see my abs, never did in my life. Maybe they are not there. After dieting, I could squat 200-220 pounds calves to buttocks for a set of 20 (none of that rest-pause stuff) which now feels like air. I kept lifting throughout my diet. Now I’m a little under 200 pounds with a reasonable waist and strength similar to my fat season.
I think I have naturally somewhat low T and also gyne, if that helps.
What’s your diet like currently? One thing I notice about the typical Finnish diet is that it’s pretty high is sodium, which might contribute to water retention, which in turn might be one of the reason you’ve never seen your abs.
Are you taking any supplements to boost Testosterone and reduce estrogen? TRIBEX, Alpha Male and Rez-V might help the low T and gyno, and HOT-ROX might help you lose the rest of the belly fat.[/quote]
I dropped fat like crazy when I bought Anastanzerole from a research chem site, got tired of bullshit anti-aging docs.
Lean with muscle will always trump anything else as far as quality of life goes, IMHO. More women (I’m happily married but it applies to you guys) and you don’t ever teach your body to get fat during a bulk.
I think everyone has a natural weight they will sit at if they have optimum exercise, calories etc. Who is to say being big is bad? Some people are just naturally big… When you have the genetics for it, I can’t see anything wrong with it.
When you have guys who want to get big at any costs, start juicing more than the “pros” and still can’t get as big because of their shit genetics you have problems.
Play to your strengths. Get as big as you can without undue strain. This would be a better message for your topic.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
This may sound like a repeat of what I have written before but I have to doubt if bodybuilding or building of the body whether through ‘strength training’ or ‘bodybuilding’ is good for us.
Studies indicate increased calorie consumption accelerates aging and smaller people seem to outlive big ones.
Other things of concern are:
-sitting and walking around with a stretched out, protruding waist all the time from the constant food consumption
-the joint strain from carrying ‘excess’ weight
-the heart and internal organ stress from having to supply extra blood, oxygen etc.
-strain, wear and tear from progressively larger weights
-flexibility drain from shortening of the muscles through motions as well as hypertrophy
-time spent feeding
-the inevitable fat gain from bulking leading to self-denial about body composition or frustration about progress and looks
I know all of these factors can be controlled to an extent but not entirely. I believe I would personally feel the best weighing 160 pounds or less at 5’11. Unfortunately that does not allow me to live up to the pressures set by the media as well as women and men. [/quote]
I agree 100%. I think this guy fits all of your scientific findings…
[quote]MR_TIGGUMS wrote:
But to address the topic, the primary hindrance to being “big” or having a lot of lean muscle mass is it can effect gait and endurance in aerobic activity, specifically running. Take someone who does a lot of squats (“ass to grass” is the buzz-word you all use, I think), deadlifts, good mornings, etc., and you have a guy with bulky thighs that rub together while walking.
Personally, I all but abandoned the quest to “get frickin’ huge” a while back in favor of overall fitness and a focus on running. I think that being bulky can interfere with running gait and especially endurance. I’m sure most of you will “poo-poo” anyone who jogs for more than 5 minutes, but I think that, in terms of overall quality of life and cardiovascular/pulmonary fitness, being very muscular can have it’s disadvantages.[/quote]
Why are you running? Where are you running to? Just pick up a barbell and do some complexes. You could also work antagonistic muscle groups in compound sets for a faster, more intense workout. Lift heavy and reduce time between sets for cardio fitness. I work up more of a sweat than some of the people on the treadmills/ellipticals do.
I think there’s a differece between having more muscle as opposed to having more fat.
are you a woman? 5’11 and a whopping 160lbs.I know girls in normal athletic shape that weigh 160.
[quote]Anonymity wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Need new work shirts my neck has grown over 9000 inches
Hahahaha, I had this problem. In fact, I had to get entirely new suits.[/quote]
Yup, growing shoulders and Lats will certainly make you think twice before moving too fast in your jackets.
[quote]markdp wrote:
I like to lift, and I like to eat. I am never going to be over 220 (I’m 6’2"), and I don’t really want to be. I know I could probably live longer if I did the calorie restriction thing for the rest of my life, but honestly, that just isn’t living to me. [/quote]
I could live life worrying about the disadvantages to getting bigger, or I could just give it up and be skinny to “feel light again” … But that just isn’t living to me
i bet you smell like cheese and nobody likes you
Immortal
There is one REAL concern of mine. Considering I am a college student, it is really hard to afford all the food I have to gorge myself on to feel happy each day.
I guess your right maybe saying your stupid is a little harsh since what you said probably floated in my mind too when I first came across that study. Although I only thought to be under eat for .05 seconds.
So here’s where you went wrong.
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Life causes injuries. Ask anybody 30+ who doesn’t do shit if they have any nagging pains. Those who lift just get ones associated with lifting. Because accidents happen and everybody does something stupid every once in a while.
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It was a controlled study of mice who were not sitting at a desk all day letting their flexibility go to shit, not stressing out trying to pay bills, or deal with any other stresses of life. Who needs calories if your not doing shit?
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The body at some point ages and loses flexibility/muscle if not used. If you gain 100lbs of muscle but haven’t ran for the last year, if you go out and try to do a HIT sprint session tomorrow you will probably pull something. that’s not the result of being big, that’s the result of not using your heart or legs in that fashion for a year.
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Your comparing apples to oranges. Quest to be big and Quest to be a pro lifter are two different things. Being elite at anything nowadays is pretty detrimental to a long life, that’s the result of everyone trying to push it to the limit. Dave, Arnold, they were Elite champion Bodybuilders. While everybody thinks they can do no wrong the truth is they did whatever it took for them to get there. Whether it’s steriods or overtraining until they needed a bottle of advil every day, they took there bodys beyond just “getting big”
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Last but not least most people who want to be big, want big muscles not big fat. It just so happens that fat comes along for the ride sometimes. After all we’re not all perfect, I might lose discipline and eat a cake. Therefor it’s not the quest for muscle that made the person unhealthier it was the cake.