Don’t know if this is the right place to post this, but I would value anyone’s opinion.
5 weeks ago I had my kidney removed due to cancer. My surgeon released me to return to training 2 weeks ago. I lost about 20% of my strength but I’m getting it back pretty quickly. I am competing December 7th and I hope to at least to close to my last comp (July).
I went to my nephrologist(kidney doctor) today and he told me that I should not be taking in anymore than .8 grams/kg of bodyweight of protein max. I weigh 270lbs/123kg right now. which puts me at 98/day protein.
I am a male and have a lower T-level (about 250). after running a few different fat calulators i have come up with 85grams/day for fats.
my bmi after activity adjustment comes to 3266 cals. I am trying to lose bodyfat so I take off 20% for my daily calories (2600) I used a few other macro calculators using 2600 cals, 85 fat, 98 protein and they showed that I should be taking in 358 carbs/day.
If you wanna eat 2600 calories I’d do this:
250g protein
100g fat
175g carbs
Or you can lower the fat and up the carbs accordingly. Some people cut a lot better with higher carbs super low fat and some do really low carb. Either way I wouldn’t limit myself to fucking 98g protein that’s for sure.
Thats whats got me worried(he has never worked with any athletes, only old folks), maybe i should go to a dietician/nutrionist (one that works with athletes preferably)
other than only having 1 kidney, he gave no other reason
there is a lady i work with that gave a kidney to her husband about 3 months ago and neither of them are on any restriction…i figured at least he would be because he was on dialysis for over a year. he only has to try to do only lean proteins.
i am signed up for a diet seminar for next tuesday at the local hospital…hopefully i can get some answers there
Moderation brother. Most people’s protein is way too high. .8g per kg of bodyweight is enough to maintain and 1.2-1.5g per kg bodyweight is more than enough to grow on. Your body is only gonna use so much and everything else is dumped so why bother using more than you process? Add something calorically that can benefit you more.
However, w/ one kidney, I’d be very careful. Don’t really wanna overload it w/ processing too much at one time.
If you question this doctor’s recommendation, get a second opinion from another kidney doctor before disregarding his advice, and make sure the second doctor is well-regarded.
My niece works at the hospital and she is doing some research for me into finding a good doctor for a second opinion. Hopefully the seminar next week will shed some more light into this for me also.
[quote]csulli wrote:
Your doctor is ill informed on this matter.
If you wanna eat 2600 calories I’d do this:
250g protein
100g fat
175g carbs
Or you can lower the fat and up the carbs accordingly. Some people cut a lot better with higher carbs super low fat and some do really low carb. Either way I wouldn’t limit myself to fucking 98g protein that’s for sure.[/quote]
Whoaaaaa there, Chris. That’s a big statement to make based on the very limited info we have from the OP.
The dude is down to one functioning kidney, and there’s a good chance it could be compromised from chemo or anything having to do with cancer treatment. A less than fully fuctional kidney as the sole kidney absolutely, positively should NOT be on a high-protein diet.
OP, I hope your treatment has gone well. Definitely get multiple opinions saying it’s OK before you think about a high protein diet.
Did you edit your post? I don’t remember that first paragraph being there before…
Regardless I still wouldn’t count out a high protein diet just yet, but you’re probably going to have to work your way up to it to give your kidney time to adapt to the work load. Having cancer that affects your kidney is different from independent kidney disease or kidney failure. That is to say, minus the cancer, I’m assuming your kidneys themselves were working just fine.
That said your remaining kidney should have no trouble picking up the slack. Plenty of people have done so in that situation. Hell lots of folks are only born with one. The number is less important than the overall functionality. There are multiple studies debunking the “high protein diet kills your kidneys” thing.
Limited protein is a standard recommendation when kidneys are compromised. I have a friend awaiting her 2nd transplant and she’s been low protein since her first round of dialysis 15 years ago. Also, I believe Thibs (Christian Thibideau) is on lower protein because of his health issues. You may want to ask for his input. He’s not exactly a pencil neck.
A little more info about me.
They got all the cancer out so i don’t have to do any chemo/radiation or anything like that, I just have to have my blood retested every 3 months to make sure it stays away.
After the operation, the surgeon said my other kidney was “very, very healthy” (his words)
[quote]csulli wrote:
Did you edit your post? I don’t remember that first paragraph being there before…
Regardless I still wouldn’t count out a high protein diet just yet, but you’re probably going to have to work your way up to it to give your kidney time to adapt to the work load. Having cancer that affects your kidney is different from independent kidney disease or kidney failure. That is to say, minus the cancer, I’m assuming your kidneys themselves were working just fine.
That said your remaining kidney should have no trouble picking up the slack. Plenty of people have done so in that situation. Hell lots of folks are only born with one. The number is less important than the overall functionality. There are multiple studies debunking the “high protein diet kills your kidneys” thing.[/quote]
Nope, haven’t touched my original post. LOL
They thing that gets me is my surgeon said I can go back to my normal diet prior to surgery which was about 200g protein but i needed to stay away from whey/casein shakes. then this new doc says something totally opposite.
[quote]LiftingStrumpet wrote:
Limited protein is a standard recommendation when kidneys are compromised. I have a friend awaiting her 2nd transplant and she’s been low protein since her first round of dialysis 15 years ago. Also, I believe Thibs (Christian Thibideau) is on lower protein because of his health issues. You may want to ask for his input. He’s not exactly a pencil neck.[/quote]
Thanx for the info on Thib, I read a lot of his stuff and didn’t know that.
If I may ask, why did your friends 1st transplant fail?
Hey fog, my friend was born with 1 working kidney and 1 underdeveloped kidney which seems to never really have worked. She went into kidney failure at about age 25 b/c of this. Had a transplant (very generous uncle was the donor), which was successful for 13 years. Now the transplanted kidney is in failure. From what she has told me and information I’ve gleaned from PubMed and the like, this is about average. Transplants last 10-15 years tops in most cases. She’s only 40 and otherwise healthy, so she’s a good candidate for another transplant, but it will probably take another year or two before she can get a match. Unfortunately her only sibling is not a good match for her.
[quote]LiftingStrumpet wrote:
Limited protein is a standard recommendation when kidneys are compromised. I have a friend awaiting her 2nd transplant and she’s been low protein since her first round of dialysis 15 years ago. Also, I believe Thibs (Christian Thibideau) is on lower protein because of his health issues. You may want to ask for his input. He’s not exactly a pencil neck.[/quote]
Thanx for the info on Thib, I read a lot of his stuff and didn’t know that.
If I may ask, why did your friends 1st transplant fail?
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All kidney transplants have a limited shelf-life, generally in the 10-15 year range. I’ve got a friend who’s already received 2 transplant kidneys, and he’s not even 30 yet.
Thanks, but trust me, she’s too stubborn to die! She recently underwent a procedure that allows her to do dialysis at home. Beats the hell out of sitting in a center for 3 hours 3 times a week. Patients can stay on dialysis for years now, so she’s got time.