Emckee: Combative responses? Just curious to see if they will all fall in the same category (just look at the title of the thread…specially the scare word…who said our intention was to scare her away?) and/or usual predictible feminist-biased answers (which we men never respect at-start precisely because of the bias). The real deal would be to have combative answers, yes, and responsible and mature ones at the same time…you know, challenging questions, non-gender-biased, that could really get us thinking by their originality or truth (not the average whining)…at least if she wants to earn men’s respect. Anyway, we’ll see her true colors, eventually…
I just wanted to tell you that I enjoyed your article. If I wasn’t already married to a very high-spirited, independent, and very sexually aware T-Vixen then …
I thought it was a great article. I was thinking of sending her a personal email telling her that I wanted to hook up.
I am the answer to her calling some beef with brains on top!
Way to speak your mind woman!
this is like when roy jones jr came out with that song
YALAL MUSTA FORGOT!
Roy Jones Jr. is cool.
i personally have no problems with the article. it was refreshing to hear a woman tell it like it is. now guys, we all know that women take all day to say something simple. if a guy would have written the article it would have been one line " dudes i cant find any chicks hot enough to satisfy my priaprismic, throbbing , bobbing meatstick" for those that hated the article here is some advice. print out the last issue and take it to the bathroom. whatever u dont like reading just wipe your ass with it
I had no idea what this was about. So I went back and read it. I didn’t see anything wrong with the article. You don’t have to read it. And if you do, and don’t like it, don’t continue reading it! And if you do continue, who cares if you don’t like it? It doesn’t matter. Oh well.
Nate, while some people may have just been complaining about the article, there are those of us that have another gripe. From the same magazine that sees no difference between verbal and pictorial porn (Attack of the Blue Whales) and bashes other mags for their inclusion of pictorial porn (pick a Ghost Dog), we get this article (Maureen’s), along with some others that at least border on, if not exemplify, verbal porn. It just seems that T-mag’s own logic is getting close to condemning them of hypocrisy.
BUT…a lot of that comes down to personal opinion about what constitutes porn (“Can’t define it, but I’ll let you know when I see it!”) and pandering.
It didn’t give me a woodie so it couldn’t have been porn… Do you happen to live in the southeast?
I just read this entire thread. I think the guys are being harsh. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Just like liberals and leftists who compalin about talk radio, etc. - don’t listen to it if you don’t like it.
Personally, I would like to see more her views. I am open-minded. I might not agree with them but its always good to looks at things from a different angle. Its always refreshings instead of seeing the same things over and over again. Isn’t that what we all like about T-mag anyways? Its not like M & F and the other mags where everything is pretty much the same stuff you have heard already.
TC, I don’t know why are you getting any of the blame. I hope T-Mag takes Maureen in as part of the crew and publish her articles.
msiqbal. About the ‘don’t like it, don’t read it’ idea…I beg to differ. First of all, like any good communication, you have to read it all to get the whole picture before judging. Unless you are of the knee-jerk reaction crowd.
Second, actions have consequences. That includes talking and writing. By your logic, you absolve the writer of bullshit from any responsibility or consequences. WRONG. Communication and feedback is a two-way street. That’s your real choice. Don’t want the feedback, don’t write. You write publicly, expect public feedback. Simple as that.
The ‘fuck you. it’s your problem’ is almost criminal logic: It’s not my fault if the bank have not thiefproof systems. I robbed them, that’s their problem. It’s not my fault if you are dumb enough to be frauded, I will steal you for all you have. It’s not my fault If your face was in the arc of my swing. It’s not my fault if race X did not like my anti-race X propaganda, that’s their problem. Etc.
SURE: Always the other’s fault. Responsibility of initiator = 0. Nice logic. Now, to be consistent, I’m sure it won’t be the others fault when you get your retribution. If you want to act like an animal, don’t ask to be treated like a human afterwords. Grow up!
You guys are sure paying this lady an awful lot of attention…which is exactly what she wants.
I could care less about the views of her article…I actually applaud them. It’s far better than a woman protraying the cliche “victim” role that they seem to play so well.
My only gripe is with T-mag: If you are going to get a woman to write something like this, at least have her be good-looking.
bigprljamfan: Actually, I’m taking your comment about expecting an article like that from me as a huge compliment! Like I’ve said before - my writing style may be a bit different from Maureen’s but the fact that she’s got the loudly clanging brass balls (you know, the ones that T-mag advocates?) and says what the fuck’s on her mind has earned my respect. If someone were to lump us together in some sort of cotterie, I’d be cool with that. Better than being lumped together with some weak, vacuous, mute socialite. We may not always agree with what someone has to say but goddammit, they have as much right to say whatever they want as we do. Even if it offends our delicate sensibilities and our view of what a nice, moral, demure, young lady should portray herself as.
Well said Karma!! You go Girl!
Sounds like the only ones with fragile egos are the men. Most of the women seem to be all for the free speech thing.
Solo’s girl: It must not be too hard to be for free speech if you don’t give a fuck about the outcomes, impacts, and consequences of what you do or say, eh?
Could we interpret this is as no-conscience-at-all? If this is so, then yes, life must not be a burden at all indeed.
Heck, who needs to be right, precise, logical, consequent, responsible at start with such a way of living (i.e. no judgment necessary). Just insulate yourself with a big ego. Keep anything not to your advantage outside of that shell. Take what you want. Tell all those that disagree with you to go to hell. Wow. Selective self-gratifying perception + sealed system. Nice algorithm. And you expect sane people to respect that? Please!
If being dense is so wonderful, why do these people come crying they need others? Or strong people? Or that they can’t get laid…oh…there must be a breach in that armor…it needs feedback and/from others…
I’d fuck ya! I don’t really care about attitude, political affiliation, or species.
I wasn’t trying to sound anti-men. So men don’t take any offense. I was just noticing the difference in opinion between the men and women.
And to Dan C. You don’t even know me, so don’t even try to judge me. That is all I’m going to say to you.
I agree with GreekDog. People are just making way too big a deal over this. Seems that some people are so eager to start arguments.
SOLO`S GIRL: Answer me this before: Why should I NOT judge you (or whoever else by that matter) ? Why should others not be given the right to answer back?
I take for granted you are an adult. Therefore your choice of words is not a random event and your act of communication is a conscious choice. (If it is not, I rest my case). Since it is not supposed to be an accident, it is the result of an act of judgement of your person. Since you exercised your right to expose publicly your judgment, I see no reason why I could not judge you and exercise the same exact right you took. I judged on something concrete: what you posted.
I`ll grant you that short sentences are always a double edged sword. However, people are also always free to post longer if they do not want to be misinterpreted or if they want to allow others to see the subtilities and building blocks of your thoughts. That can be judged.
Anyway, any argument should stand on it`s own. If scientist adopted a ‘you have no right to judge what I think’ policy in their communications, where would we be? The Dark Ages?
Another thing, if someone’s does not care for other’s feedback at start…why post?
So…why should I not judge? Feel free to give me the last piece of the puzzle. Show me a truly stronger reason that will blow me away and make me understand and embrace all the fuck-you-it`s-your-problem mindset that seems so beautiful to live by.
I just hope you won’t post a youre-too-serious tone answer. (Its just a smokescreen to put the attention elsewhere than the originator. Sorry. I know the tactic.)
Or the classic I-have-nothing-to-prove-to-you, which will ironically prove my original points.
I truly am curious. I just wonder why these easy fuck-you policies never endure under tough questionning. Specially if they are supposed to be the representation of strength incarnated.
BIGPRLJAMFAN: LOL.