Did Obama's Cabinet Vote For Him?

Interesting that Obama’s cabinet is full of his rivals. Why??

Keep you enemies closer? Or maybe is actually trying to do a good job despite my disdain for him?
I’d work on his cabinet if I could…I figure I could beat him down with my pro-life arguments right to his face rather some anonymous face in the crowd he could not even see hear or give a fuck about.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
"He’s not even in office, yet he’s fired the opening salvos in a war
against the future of the Second Amendment, our hunting and shooting
traditions, and YOU.

       Obama's FIRST attack on YOU: Appointing Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel to be White House Chief of Staff. In Congress, Emanuel earned an "F"

rating from NRA, and while working in the Clinton Administration, he was
known as the “point man on gun control.” He is an avowed enemy of the
Second Amendment and will wield enormous power in the battle for the
future of our firearm freedoms.

       Obama's SECOND attack on YOU: If Hillary Clinton is confirmed as

Secretary of State, she’ll rip the Second Amendment right out of the Bill
of Rights. She’ll be our nation’s top diplomat with the power to
determine whether the United Nations will pass, and Obama will sign, a
global gun ban treaty that will surrender our Second Amendment rights and
our national sovereignty.

       Obama's THIRD attack on YOU: Nominating ex-Senator and former Majority

Leader Tom Daschle-an avowed enemy of NRA-to be Secretary of Health and
Human Services. NRA was responsible for defeating Daschle when he ran in
South Dakota for re-election to the Senate. If Daschle is confirmed, he
could hold the ultimate power to declare guns a “public health menace”
and regulate away our essential liberties.

       Obama's FOURTH attack on YOU: Nominating Eric Holder to be Attorney

General. As former Assistant Attorney General, Holder was a key architect
and vocal advocate for the Clinton era’s sweeping gun ban agenda. He
supported national handgun licensing, mandatory trigger locks, and ending
gun shows as we know them.

       Just recently, Holder opposed the District of Columbia's Heller decision

that declared the Second Amendment an individual right. Holder also
called for reviving the Clinton gun bans and, as Attorney General, would
fight in court to prevent the landmark Heller decision from being made
applicable to state and local governments.

       Worst of all, if Holder is confirmed as the nation's top law-enforcement

officer, he would control BATFE and wield enormous power to harass gun
owners and sue America’s arms makers out of existence.

       Obama's FIFTH attack on YOU: In the job application for the Obama

Administration, he made it clear that gun owners are second-class
citizens and told 80 million gun owners not to even bother applying for a
job. In the “White House Personnel Data Questionnaire” he asked:
“Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide
complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever
lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has
been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.”

       This chilling notice to gun owners-that they are not welcome to serve in

his Administration-shows the deep hostility for Americans’ Second
Amendment Freedoms that Obama and his Administration have in their
hearts.

       On its face, that question endorses gun registration-a mandate in only

five states in our nation-and buys into the anti-gun premise that
firearms are inherently dangerous and gun owners are prone to misusing
them.

       That's an outrageous mindset, especially for the President-elect whose

sworn duty will be to uphold the U.S. Constitution, including our right
to keep and bear arms.

       Obama CLEARLY wants to make gun registration the law of the land.
       First for employees under his control...AND THEN FOR YOU."
       [/quote]

Yeah, but … Obama says, “Lawful gun owners have nothing to fear. I said that throughout the campaign. I haven’t indicated anything different during the transition. I think people can take me at my word.”

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1318968,obama-gun-sales-up-120808.article

So do I believe Obama’s word, or his record? Of all of the above noted appointments, Holder scares me the most.

[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
pushharder wrote:
"He’s not even in office, yet he’s fired the opening salvos in a war
against the future of the Second Amendment, our hunting and shooting
traditions, and YOU.

       Obama's FIRST attack on YOU: Appointing Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel to be White House Chief of Staff. In Congress, Emanuel earned an "F"

rating from NRA, and while working in the Clinton Administration, he was
known as the “point man on gun control.” He is an avowed enemy of the
Second Amendment and will wield enormous power in the battle for the
future of our firearm freedoms.

       Obama's SECOND attack on YOU: If Hillary Clinton is confirmed as

Secretary of State, she’ll rip the Second Amendment right out of the Bill
of Rights. She’ll be our nation’s top diplomat with the power to
determine whether the United Nations will pass, and Obama will sign, a
global gun ban treaty that will surrender our Second Amendment rights and
our national sovereignty.

       Obama's THIRD attack on YOU: Nominating ex-Senator and former Majority

Leader Tom Daschle-an avowed enemy of NRA-to be Secretary of Health and
Human Services. NRA was responsible for defeating Daschle when he ran in
South Dakota for re-election to the Senate. If Daschle is confirmed, he
could hold the ultimate power to declare guns a “public health menace”
and regulate away our essential liberties.

       Obama's FOURTH attack on YOU: Nominating Eric Holder to be Attorney

General. As former Assistant Attorney General, Holder was a key architect
and vocal advocate for the Clinton era’s sweeping gun ban agenda. He
supported national handgun licensing, mandatory trigger locks, and ending
gun shows as we know them.

       Just recently, Holder opposed the District of Columbia's Heller decision

that declared the Second Amendment an individual right. Holder also
called for reviving the Clinton gun bans and, as Attorney General, would
fight in court to prevent the landmark Heller decision from being made
applicable to state and local governments.

       Worst of all, if Holder is confirmed as the nation's top law-enforcement

officer, he would control BATFE and wield enormous power to harass gun
owners and sue America’s arms makers out of existence.

       Obama's FIFTH attack on YOU: In the job application for the Obama

Administration, he made it clear that gun owners are second-class
citizens and told 80 million gun owners not to even bother applying for a
job. In the “White House Personnel Data Questionnaire” he asked:
“Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide
complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever
lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has
been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.”

       This chilling notice to gun owners-that they are not welcome to serve in

his Administration-shows the deep hostility for Americans’ Second
Amendment Freedoms that Obama and his Administration have in their
hearts.

       On its face, that question endorses gun registration-a mandate in only

five states in our nation-and buys into the anti-gun premise that
firearms are inherently dangerous and gun owners are prone to misusing
them.

       That's an outrageous mindset, especially for the President-elect whose

sworn duty will be to uphold the U.S. Constitution, including our right
to keep and bear arms.

       Obama CLEARLY wants to make gun registration the law of the land.
       First for employees under his control...AND THEN FOR YOU."

Yeah, but … Obama says, “Lawful gun owners have nothing to fear. I said that throughout the campaign. I haven’t indicated anything different during the transition. I think people can take me at my word.”

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1318968,obama-gun-sales-up-120808.article

So do I believe Obama’s word, or his record? Of all of the above noted appointments, Holder scares me the most.[/quote]

Take him on his word? Ha! Surely you jest! My ass, he wants to swipe the guns out of peoples hands. I guess he just wants the tools of death to be in the hand of abortions practitioners alone.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
"He’s not even in office, yet he’s fired the opening salvos in a war
against the future of the Second Amendment, our hunting and shooting
traditions, and YOU.

       Obama's FIRST attack on YOU: Appointing Illinois Congressman Rahm Emanuel to be White House Chief of Staff. In Congress, Emanuel earned an "F"

rating from NRA, and while working in the Clinton Administration, he was
known as the “point man on gun control.” He is an avowed enemy of the
Second Amendment and will wield enormous power in the battle for the
future of our firearm freedoms.

       Obama's SECOND attack on YOU: If Hillary Clinton is confirmed as

Secretary of State, she’ll rip the Second Amendment right out of the Bill
of Rights. She’ll be our nation’s top diplomat with the power to
determine whether the United Nations will pass, and Obama will sign, a
global gun ban treaty that will surrender our Second Amendment rights and
our national sovereignty.

       Obama's THIRD attack on YOU: Nominating ex-Senator and former Majority

Leader Tom Daschle-an avowed enemy of NRA-to be Secretary of Health and
Human Services. NRA was responsible for defeating Daschle when he ran in
South Dakota for re-election to the Senate. If Daschle is confirmed, he
could hold the ultimate power to declare guns a “public health menace”
and regulate away our essential liberties.

       Obama's FOURTH attack on YOU: Nominating Eric Holder to be Attorney

General. As former Assistant Attorney General, Holder was a key architect
and vocal advocate for the Clinton era’s sweeping gun ban agenda. He
supported national handgun licensing, mandatory trigger locks, and ending
gun shows as we know them.

       Just recently, Holder opposed the District of Columbia's Heller decision

that declared the Second Amendment an individual right. Holder also
called for reviving the Clinton gun bans and, as Attorney General, would
fight in court to prevent the landmark Heller decision from being made
applicable to state and local governments.

       Worst of all, if Holder is confirmed as the nation's top law-enforcement

officer, he would control BATFE and wield enormous power to harass gun
owners and sue America’s arms makers out of existence.

       Obama's FIFTH attack on YOU: In the job application for the Obama

Administration, he made it clear that gun owners are second-class
citizens and told 80 million gun owners not to even bother applying for a
job. In the “White House Personnel Data Questionnaire” he asked:
“Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide
complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever
lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has
been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.”

       This chilling notice to gun owners-that they are not welcome to serve in

his Administration-shows the deep hostility for Americans’ Second
Amendment Freedoms that Obama and his Administration have in their
hearts.

       On its face, that question endorses gun registration-a mandate in only

five states in our nation-and buys into the anti-gun premise that
firearms are inherently dangerous and gun owners are prone to misusing
them.

       That's an outrageous mindset, especially for the President-elect whose

sworn duty will be to uphold the U.S. Constitution, including our right
to keep and bear arms.

       Obama CLEARLY wants to make gun registration the law of the land.
       First for employees under his control...AND THEN FOR YOU."
       [/quote]

Good post, push. I don’t own a gun but I fully support the rights to own them as defined by the 2nd amendment.
Hell, I don’t smoke, but I detest all smoking laws whose jurisdiction unlawfully includes private businesses and property.

Part of it I think is that he’s trying to coopt and neutralize rivals while the other part is a reaction to the rampant group-think that caused so much trouble for the outgoing administration.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Interesting that Obama’s cabinet is full of his rivals. Why?[/quote]

I think he’s decided that having a room full of corrupt officials who will bicker about his judgements behind his back is more valuable than a room full of idealistic know-nothings.

Hillary Clinton knows people and can get things done. She knows the system, and she’s power-hungry enough to be able to capitalize on her #2 status as soon as Obama is out of the picture (which probably won’t be until 2016).

Emmanuel Rahm has a reputation for being able to get things done, regardless of whose feelings get hurt. My understanding is that, as chief of white house staff, he’ll be more in charge of who gets assigned to what project in the west wing than he will be in a position to make policy decisions. I think Obama can count on Rahm to get things Obama wants done so Obama can maintain the air and aura of a transformative leader, not translational.

TBH, I haven’t really scrutinized the rest. I think this is a good topic. I was thinking this to myself about a week ago.

What strikes me as unusual is that he expects to have a smoothly functioning Cabinet filled with his former rivals. Also, some of those rivals will be looking at 2012, especially Hillary. She’ll now have Senator and Secretary of State on her resume.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
What strikes me as unusual is that he expects to have a smoothly functioning Cabinet filled with his former rivals. Also, some of those rivals will be looking at 2012, especially Hillary. She’ll now have Senator and Secretary of State on her resume.[/quote]

Hillary won’t run in 2012. What would be the point? Either Obama will be the candidate for the democratic party or they will fuck up so bad that the democrats won’t have a chance. Hillary ain’t dumb, 2012 is not her year.