Did Anyone Have 11 Inch Arms?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
What the living fuck is wrong with guys who don’t train arms but whine about how small they are?

11" arms on a grown man is pathetic. Train arms.

This is retarded. How the hell do you listen to some personal trainer as they tell you not to do arms directly when the majority of the guys with really big arms DID train them directly from day one?[/quote]

Hell, there is a guy walking around this campus with 8.5 inch arms, kid is 5’11" and can not weight more then 118 pounds… looks like a holocaust victim so anything is possible…

I just dont understand how this can happen unless you guys honestly dont eat anything… I have seen people get fat on 4 dollars a day in ramen so how your all this tiny is beyond me…

Okay okay, so the conclusion here is i should add isolation work, i’m hardly going to argue my point, standing at 170 pounds here. The question now is how would you go about it in theory, based on a basic starting strength template with added iso’s? I am posting here to provoke responce, because perhaps it is the only way I will get sense kicked into me to do what I have to do.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
jake_j_m wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jake_j_m wrote:
Basically I have tried adding isolation work and it has done nothing in adding size, so yeah, my other option is adding 20+ pounds of lean mass and I think that’s what i’m going for.

Only 20? Have you looked in a mirror?

No, not only 20, 20+, i put that as a ball park figure for when I would expect my arms to start looking anywhere near “good”, of course, i would love to be 40+ pounds heavier.

Dude, with 11" arms, you may need to be thinking about 60lbs heavier.

I would expect to see arms that small on someone completely sedentary, not someone claiming to train regularly. You need more size all over…and a lot of it…and this will take years.[/quote]

They are 13 1/2 inch now, i started with around 11". You may have misread the original post

[quote]Ratchet wrote:
Professor X wrote:
What the living fuck is wrong with guys who don’t train arms but whine about how small they are?

11" arms on a grown man is pathetic. Train arms.

This is retarded. How the hell do you listen to some personal trainer as they tell you not to do arms directly when the majority of the guys with really big arms DID train them directly from day one?

Hell, there is a guy walking around this campus with 8.5 inch arms, kid is 5’11" and can not weight more then 118 pounds… looks like a holocaust victim so anything is possible…

I just dont understand how this can happen unless you guys honestly dont eat anything… I have seen people get fat on 4 dollars a day in ramen so how your all this tiny is beyond me…[/quote]

But…he has his pic in his avatar like he’s built. I am not understanding the way these guys think. If I had 11" arms, there would be no public pictures of me until I fixed that. These guys seem proud of it…to the point that they think everyone else git big arms “easily” or “magically”.

No, everyone else isn’t afraid of a hamburger.

[quote]jake_j_m wrote:
Okay okay, so the conclusion here is i should add isolation work, i’m hardly going to argue my point, standing at 170 pounds here. The question now is how would you go about it in theory, based on a basic starting strength template with added iso’s? I am posting here to provoke responce, because perhaps it is the only way I will get sense kicked into me to do what I have to do.[/quote]

The question is why you didn’t arrive at that conclusion the moment you looked in the mirror and noticed your arms weren’t growing very much.

That is what we mean by common sense. You had to ask about this. I do not understand why.

A strength template? You mean there are people working on size without working on getting stronger? Why are you separating the two like they don’t go hand in hand?

Your problem is getting caught up in that TBT bullshit without ever have a firm grasp of the basics. That is the only way someone as small as you could think they didn’t need to train arms directly at all.

[quote]jake_j_m wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jake_j_m wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jake_j_m wrote:
Basically I have tried adding isolation work and it has done nothing in adding size, so yeah, my other option is adding 20+ pounds of lean mass and I think that’s what i’m going for.

Only 20? Have you looked in a mirror?

No, not only 20, 20+, i put that as a ball park figure for when I would expect my arms to start looking anywhere near “good”, of course, i would love to be 40+ pounds heavier.

Dude, with 11" arms, you may need to be thinking about 60lbs heavier.

I would expect to see arms that small on someone completely sedentary, not someone claiming to train regularly. You need more size all over…and a lot of it…and this will take years.

They are 13 1/2 inch now, i started with around 11". You may have misread the original post[/quote]

Hey, I’m glad you’ve gained 2 inches but the reality is, 13" arms on someone your height is still tiny.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
jake_j_m wrote:
Okay okay, so the conclusion here is i should add isolation work, i’m hardly going to argue my point, standing at 170 pounds here. The question now is how would you go about it in theory, based on a basic starting strength template with added iso’s? I am posting here to provoke responce, because perhaps it is the only way I will get sense kicked into me to do what I have to do.

The question is why you didn’t arrive at that conclusion the moment you looked in the mirror and noticed your arms weren’t growing very much.

That is what we mean by common sense. You had to ask about this. I do not understand why.

A strength template? You mean there are people working on size without working on getting stronger? Why are you separating the two like they don’t go hand in hand?

Your problem is getting caught up in that TBT bullshit without ever have a firm grasp of the basics. That is the only way someone as small as you could think they didn’t need to train arms directly at all.[/quote]

Pretty sure he just meant he wanted to add it in to the Starting Strength program he’s already doing.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
jake_j_m wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jake_j_m wrote:
Professor X wrote:
jake_j_m wrote:
Basically I have tried adding isolation work and it has done nothing in adding size, so yeah, my other option is adding 20+ pounds of lean mass and I think that’s what i’m going for.

Only 20? Have you looked in a mirror?

No, not only 20, 20+, i put that as a ball park figure for when I would expect my arms to start looking anywhere near “good”, of course, i would love to be 40+ pounds heavier.

Dude, with 11" arms, you may need to be thinking about 60lbs heavier.

I would expect to see arms that small on someone completely sedentary, not someone claiming to train regularly. You need more size all over…and a lot of it…and this will take years.

They are 13 1/2 inch now, i started with around 11". You may have misread the original post

Hey, I’m glad you’ve gained 2 inches but the reality is, 13" arms on someone your height is still tiny. [/quote]

Yep, and hence the point of my post, I appreciate all your saying though, I still am fuckin small and my arms still are terrible, it’s better to get someone who can kick my head into gear then not though, which is what i’m trying to achieve here, as nonsensical as that my seem.

I’ve attached a picture of me today to try and give you an idea of what I mean, whilst i’m small, I think it’s fair to say there has been far smaller here and my arms are slightly out of whack, even with that frame, just to validate i wasn’t bsing.

[quote]Tumbles wrote:
Pretty sure he just meant he wanted to add it in to the Starting Strength program he’s already doing.[/quote]

Yep

[quote]Tumbles wrote:

Pretty sure he just meant he wanted to add it in to the Starting Strength program he’s already doing.[/quote]

…and I am pretty sure that his wording implies he thinks you need different programs for strength than you need for hypertrophy.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tumbles wrote:

Pretty sure he just meant he wanted to add it in to the Starting Strength program he’s already doing.

…and I am pretty sure that his wording implies he thinks you need different programs for strength than you need for hypertrophy.[/quote]

Sorry about the wording, i certainly don’t, otherwise I would absolutely not be on Starting Strength, or considering S2B, though i do believe i can be slightly more ‘hypertrophy focused’, with the stage im currently, I know this is relatively irrelevant to the overall picture.

db Curls, bb curls, hammer curls, pin wheels, skull crushers, reverse curls, dips, and close grip bench…

[quote]thorax wrote:
asusvenus wrote:
I started off with arms being about 11.8inches (flexed). They are now 14.5inches(Still small)… But I havn’t bothered with them since I started 7 months ago. However my squat is pathetic.

So what are your strong points, if any? :>[/quote]

Can I use “I’m 6’5” as an excuse? No? Oh well.

Honestly, I don’t think I have any strong points, I’m far to small for my height to even start thinking of that…

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tumbles wrote:

Pretty sure he just meant he wanted to add it in to the Starting Strength program he’s already doing.

…and I am pretty sure that his wording implies he thinks you need different programs for strength than you need for hypertrophy.[/quote]

I STRONGLY DISAGREE

and i couldn’t help myself it’s all i could think of looking at the picture

[quote]Ratchet wrote:
db Curls, bb curls, hammer curls, pin wheels, skull crushers, reverse curls, dips, and close grip bench…[/quote]

…plus bench press, squats, lateral raises, overhead presses, triceps press downs, leg curls, bent over lateral raises or reverse pec deck, incline presses and several others.

Train everything. Most guys have bigger arms than you because doing curls is what most people perform and think of when they first begin lifting anything. Internet warriors listening to personal trainers seem to be the only ones trying to change the book on this.

t would be great of any of these guys were actually getting BIG arms by not training them. It sure as hell doesn’t look that way.

Adding isolation work after your main lifts is not going to kill your progress, even if you’re doing Starting Strength. If you want to be more “hypertrophy oriented”, eat more. Seriously, X is right on the money with 60+ lbs. Eat more, lift progressively heavier things, if you have a weak muscle group train it. It’s really that fucking simple.

I don’t know the exact arm measurement when I started training but i think it was about 12". Could of been 11 though. I was 5"10’ and 126 lbs. Grossly thin. They are now 17+". Its great you haven’t neglected legs. I did that starting out. But now get in there and so some arms… and EAT.

PS: Thank you for the tighty whitey shot. I feel like a pedo… put some shorts on.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

t would be great of any of these guys were actually getting BIG arms by not training them. It sure as hell doesn’t look that way.[/quote]

I agree, I think one can only attain arm growth solely on compound movements for so long without direct work. I myself have stagnated and have started doing that myself.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
jake_j_m wrote:
Okay okay, so the conclusion here is i should add isolation work, i’m hardly going to argue my point, standing at 170 pounds here. The question now is how would you go about it in theory, based on a basic starting strength template with added iso’s? I am posting here to provoke responce, because perhaps it is the only way I will get sense kicked into me to do what I have to do.

The question is why you didn’t arrive at that conclusion the moment you looked in the mirror and noticed your arms weren’t growing very much.

That is what we mean by common sense. You had to ask about this. I do not understand why.

A strength template? You mean there are people working on size without working on getting stronger? Why are you separating the two like they don’t go hand in hand?

Your problem is getting caught up in that TBT bullshit without ever have a firm grasp of the basics. That is the only way someone as small as you could think they didn’t need to train arms directly at all.[/quote]

I don’t think there’s anything “wrong” with training your whole body, especially for a beginner to intermediate lifter. If you are eating enough to put on muscle and making progress in your program, then as long as you’re getting results in line with your goals then stick with it until you plateau.

But I don’t understand why most of those programs demonize direct arm work. I think it’s a big gimmick personally.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ratchet wrote:
db Curls, bb curls, hammer curls, pin wheels, skull crushers, reverse curls, dips, and close grip bench…

…plus bench press, squats, lateral raises, overhead presses, triceps press downs, leg curls, bent over lateral raises or reverse pec deck, incline presses and several others.

.[/quote]

When I started typing that the second page did not exist yet and I had not seen a picture, but ya, work everything… the list i made was just a crap load of arm exercises I could think of off the top of my head…