[quote]rundymc wrote:
Dude, whatever.
Guys stop feeding the troll. He’s run out of the good material quite some time ago.[/quote]
No way,man! Roguewimpire is the new Hack Wilson! the original troll of shame! :))
I miss IronClaws…
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
I miss IronClaws…[/quote]
you mean IronChopps? :)))
My .02 cents
All of the fighters we train All have a base of running(long term endurance) we program into their training template week after week peaking usually 2-weeks before their fight.
We add in explosive training ie: Plyo, olympic lifts weighted vest sprints/jumps etc depending on skill level and how good their base conditioning level is slowly over time.
Skill training in their sport(s) is paramount followed by diet and conditioning and lastly is the strength aspect, usually 2 days a week to start.
Lastly large leg size is a detriment of an athletes weight and or cardio usually, so in essence with a lot of running we keep the size (weight) while the weight training can keep the strength up.
I agree with Fighting Irish. I can pretty much tell if an athlete put in their roadwork or not by how they move in the ring/cage or how they look.
OMG the thread is bein derailed by this Hyooooge guy who knows more about MMA than anyone in here…LOL when he has never even done MMA. Just igonre the BS and go on with the thread.
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
OMG the thread is bein derailed by this Hyooooge guy who knows more about MMA than anyone in here…LOL when he has never even done MMA. Just igonre the BS and go on with the thread.
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now we are all biting our nails waiting for the ChopMaster to tell us how to become Supermen ;))
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
OMG the thread is bein derailed by this Hyooooge guy who knows more about MMA than anyone in here…LOL when he has never even done MMA. Just igonre the BS and go on with the thread.
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But he’s pretty entertaining. My favorite thread of the year was when he interviewed himself for the bodybuilding forum.
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
I miss IronClaws…[/quote]
Maybe he got upset because we made fun of his savage punches?
^^^ LOL ^^^ I have to admit the trolls do keep it interesting. Cant wait to see Iron Claws and limpdickvamire in the cage soon.
Diaz bros have great conditioning because of the way they train and the way they fight. period.
Kmnyc had some great stuff on what conditioning is at a top level.
People can harp on LSD all they want but I am sure that 99% of the people that do, have never fought a round in their life.
Seriously, running 5 miles isnt going to make you “slow”, “less explosive for your 200lb squat”, or “fatigue you beyond recovery for further training”
Get up early, do the fucking roadwork for an hour, gradually work your training for S C and technique back in…and after a few months all will be better. I dont see what is so complicated.
If you have the work capacity to do a triathalon, and are not a complete fucking newb to combat sports im pretty sure your endurance will be fine in the ring without doing lame ass tabata intervals (NO USE for fighting).
Dear Forum, sometimes, non-douchy posters write legit questions that somehow make douchy posters highjack the thread.
There is no need for either one or the other. No magic endurance regiment, no best tabata-sprint program.
Roadwork is time-tested, oldschool conditioning. There are several benefits:
-legs tend to shrink. Good for making weight
-it’s a no-bs conditioning approach. It works, at least to some degree without complicated programming
-there’s practically no overlap to the rest of your work
-it should speed up regeneration
If you go balls to the wall and run intervall, sprints etc, I wouldn’t consider it true “roadwork”, although, during a camp, some pump up the intensity with their runs and finsh with some form of progression (length, tempo) about one week out.
Classical roadwork definitely has some downsides, however.
-some guys simply don’t profit a lot from running around, endurance wise. Or their body mechanics, joints etc are simply not made for running.
-explosive work and/or strength is hard to combine with running around in circles.
This is especially true for lanky athletes who lack power/explosiveness.
Other methods work for endurance, too and may be better suited for a particular combination of athlete, style, sport.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Dear Forum, sometimes, non-douchy posters write legit questions that somehow make douchy posters highjack the thread.
There is no need for either one or the other. No magic endurance regiment, no best tabata-sprint program.
Roadwork is time-tested, oldschool conditioning. There are several benefits:
-legs tend to shrink. Good for making weight
-it’s a no-bs conditioning approach. It works, at least to some degree without complicated programming
-there’s practically no overlap to the rest of your work
-it should speed up regeneration
If you go balls to the wall and run intervall, sprints etc, I wouldn’t consider it true “roadwork”, although, during a camp, some pump up the intensity with their runs and finsh with some form of progression (length, tempo) about one week out.
Classical roadwork definitely has some downsides, however.
-some guys simply don’t profit a lot from running around, endurance wise. Or their body mechanics, joints etc are simply not made for running.
-explosive work and/or strength is hard to combine with running around in circles.
This is especially true for lanky athletes who lack power/explosiveness.
Other methods work for endurance, too and may be better suited for a particular combination of athlete, style, sport.
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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
OMG the thread is bein derailed by this Hyooooge guy who knows more about MMA than anyone in here…LOL when he has never even done MMA. Just igonre the BS and go on with the thread.
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But he’s pretty entertaining. My favorite thread of the year was when he interviewed himself for the bodybuilding forum.[/quote]
shut up. really? if so link now!
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
OMG the thread is bein derailed by this Hyooooge guy who knows more about MMA than anyone in here…LOL when he has never even done MMA. Just igonre the BS and go on with the thread.
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But he’s pretty entertaining. My favorite thread of the year was when he interviewed himself for the bodybuilding forum.[/quote]
shut up. really? if so link now![/quote]
You really need to keep up with things more Heavy D. Seriouslyyyy.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Ranzo wrote:
OMG the thread is bein derailed by this Hyooooge guy who knows more about MMA than anyone in here…LOL when he has never even done MMA. Just igonre the BS and go on with the thread.
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But he’s pretty entertaining. My favorite thread of the year was when he interviewed himself for the bodybuilding forum.[/quote]
shut up. really? if so link now![/quote]
You really need to keep up with things more Heavy D. Seriouslyyyy.
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great shit! :)))
the best part for me was when the hard-boiled eggs (‘for some reason’) made him stronger. An in depth look into the mind of a champion.
[quote]yarni wrote:
the best part for me was when the hard-boiled eggs (‘for some reason’) made him stronger. An in depth look into the mind of a champion. [/quote]
haahahahahahaha!!! :)))
It’s the only legit source of protein he has. Guy’s vegan I believe.
[quote]rundymc wrote:
It’s the only legit source of protein he has. Guy’s vegan I believe.[/quote]
errrm, ok?
this thread is now making NO sense