Diagnosed with Uncontrolled Type 2 Diabetes

I did talk to my doctor about Lantus and said he’s worried insurance won’t cover it. He prescribed Victoza pen injected every day SQ and already am feeling better after only hours of my first injection. If this doesn’t show good results, we are moving closer towards regular insulin.

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That is awesome to hear that you’re turning the corner on this.

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I agree, and good luck with the lifestyle changes, @systemlord.

So, there is a possibility of something going on here. Have they ruled out Hashimoto’s?

I am also on Victoza (with Metformin) and this combination has worked quite well for me. Victoza is an excellent (though expensive) drug. My A1c went from 8.7 to 5.1 after getting on victoza, wathcing my diet, and losing about 15 lbs.

A good rule to have. Don’t need willpower if there’s is no temptation.

Glad to hear it. Sounds like the start of positive change

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yea I was being sarcastic.

If your BG gets low and your feeling shitty, eat 1-2 blueberries every 5-10 minutes until your BG gets back to normal

Also, if your BG has been high for a long time, even when its normal (90-100s) you will feel like shit until you adapt to the Normal BG levels.

Have you considered the possibility that losing weight and reducing insulin resistance and lowering blood sugar might negate the need for TRT? I brought my free T from 35 to 90 in about 10 weeks by improving sleep, and having high blood sugar and high insulin levels at night are not good for sleep or natural GH levels. Sugar is inflammatory and blood sugar is inflammatory to blood vessels, and the body combats inflammation by releasing cortisol that raises blood sugar more and also correlates to lower testosterone. Also bodyfat tends to transform more test into estrogen.

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I consulted with DR. Saya on the matter and he said everyone has antibodies as old tissue is replace with new tissue. He suggested we test it from time to time. My thyroid numbers don’t change much, they are rock steady and TSH never breaks past 1.0.

I’m going to keep testing until I’m confident there are no issues, but that’s not to say there won’t be. I need to reverse this diabetes quickly because I feel like time is not on my side.

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Believe me our work site has a lot of bowls of candy laying around, I smile as I’m able to walk past them without so much as an urge. Getting the sugar out of the house was more symbolic and entering a new chapter in my life.

It felt good.

How long did it take to go from 8.7-5.1 if you don’t mind me asking? After only 3 days I’m getting a lot of bloating and pain after eating, doctor might be switching me to something else. Too bad because the results are good so far according to the glucose levels (250->140 in 1wk).

I am just going to make a suggestion here. I have a lot of the same symptoms as you have described with my Graves. I can drink water and get so bloated it feels like I am having a heat attack. Have you tried taking amino acids? Carnatine and glutamine? The gluatmine usually always helps with bloating. I take EAA supplements and it helps. Just a thought you may want to try.

I’m not disagreeing with you, CL, but I think it might be good for @systemlord to take some time with the lifestyle changes and see what symptoms are still present a few weeks from now. He’s muddied the water so much with his past experimentation.

I understand that, but if the bloating is already making them consider switching meds, again, it may be worth a shot to help the symptoms until he can adjust to the new meds.

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How is one to determine if the meds have worked or the change was for the better with a confounding variable like supplementation?

Does it really matter if the end result is better glucose levels?

Yes. If you throw medication X in with supplement Y without knowing what medication X fully effected, then there is no way to know whether or not supplement Y was the primary vector or secondary to the medication.

Considering the consequences of wrong medications and improper dosing, this would be something to err on the side of caution with getting the meds balanced and maybe using some supps for fine tuning way on down the road, once the baseline responses to the meds are fully realized and understood.

Granted, I’m a little gun shy about throwing stuff into the medical mix after experiencing getting some heart meds figured out. It kinda sucked (actually really sucked) in the figuring out period, but once done has been really effective.

And seeing what the guy has experienced up to this point, it’s easy enough to say “Let’s leave the doctoring to the doctors on this one”.

It was just a suggestion. He is in no way obligated to try it.

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I understand. We’re just batting around different ideas.

The action is his to take.

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I may have little choice but to do exactly that, I stopped TRT a week ago do to what I believe is related to be severe insulin resistance, I was hit with killer fatigue to the point feeling like my brain is switching off and energy production in my body is turning off, change in taste buds from sweet to chemical taste, teeth turned yellow and dull quickly, but everything is normal in morning and even teeth are white again.

My doctor doesn’t believe it’s ketosis because my numbers don’t reflect ketosis, the symptoms do and if I’m remain of TRT every night these symptoms are worse. I don’t know what else it could be because I never had these exact same symptoms on TRT before.

So I’m treating the diabetes and am on Cialis since I heard it can increase testosterone naturally in those with metabolic syndrome. The study noted testosterone increased from 328 to 546 ng/dl (11.3 - 19 nmol/l) on 5mg Cialis daily.

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So I took Cialis and felt better mentally and physically after an hour, erections 2 hours later. The way I see it by treating the diabetes while on the Cialis and the lifestyle changes, even if it doesn’t increase testosterone, at least I’ll be in better health when it’s time to give TRT another attempt.

I have nothing to lose. As of tonight glucose is 140, a deparcher from the 250-304 I was getting only a week ago on the TRT while not treating the diabetes.