Deca vs Tren Questions

Is there compounds that let you sleep or is it just Testosterone dose related?

So I’m thinking get a few things of NPP since Deca takes too long to build up & leave the system and I’ll get a few things of Tren A. I’ll run NPP for 8 weeks and Tren A for 8 weeks with some caber handy.

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I was on 300mg tren e and 200mg test e … I did end up using caber as my prolactin was about 1250 on a blood test that had an end range of around 350, although I had no sides of high prolactin

Libido was unreal… Was easily smashing the girlfriend 3 to 4 times a day … so she was happy… I’ve told her to prepare for that to change as I start PCT lol

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I feel my dosages I planned may be a lot compared to what you posted, nonetheless that’s awesome I bet your girlfriend thought you were Superman.

Is 500 Test 400 mast and 300 deca/npp or 50 EOD of Tren a bit extreme or is that fairly moderate?

I could probably easily say I could cut my test dosage in half.

For a cycle like that I am going to get blood work done.

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I ran 600mg/w of test e and 600mg/w deca (started at 400mg/w and increased) with 300mg/w Eq and and 250mg/w mast.
Had no sides whatsoever while using Aromasin. Slept great, felt great.
Libido dropped a little bit after a few weeks so started taking zma, deer antler velvet and a couple of other herbal libido boosters for that and to help with recovery. Took celery seed and hawthorn Berry for blood pressure, plus a herbal cycle support throughout.

A year ago I ran test e (300mg/w) and tren e(150-200 mg/w) and the tren gave me similar experiences to what’s been mentioned above with assertiveness and libido. Had to change the bed sheets every few days from night sweats too, but was the middle of summer and I’m fairly warm blooded to begin with, still slept undisturbed though. Used arimidex which didn’t seem to work for me either.
Next time I use tren il halve my test dose and run Aromasin. Ran and will stick with caber for both.
Only side I noticed with both was blood pressure which is why I got a herbal supp off iherb for it.

What were your gains like on that first cycle stated? How was EQ? EQ was a substance that never really caught my interests because I was told don’t waste my money Test is twice as good but I’d obviously be open to using it. Deca interests me for the joint health and bulking properties but Tren interests me because the massive reputation it has surrounding it lol the negative side effects all sound fairly manageable within reason.

But I am blessed because naturally I have a lower blood pressure than average. the doctor has always said that every time throughout my entire life when I’d go for a check up that my blood pressure is low.

I believe if I build up to a size where I like I feel like I won’t need blast as hard or long to maintain gains, I feel like a lot of people believe in blasting larger and larger doses every cycle they run. I may be wrong but that’s not the path I wish to follow.

Loved the Eq, it surprised me actually. Helped keep me lean and improved vascularity.
Gained 12kg over all. I thought deca would help me with joints as well, having bad shoulders, but I didn’t really notice much of a difference in that regard. You should be okay with blood pressure then, just keep an eye on it.
You’ll get good gains if you train hard and eat well, increase calories but keep them as clean as you can.
I did a mixture of strength and hypertrophy training being 70/30 strength the first 6 weeks then 70/30 hyper the last 7 weeks while increasing sets of both as much as possible, seemed to work really well. Good luck with whatever you decide, you’ll be fine.

I just threw in 300 mast for the last 8wks of this cycle and dropped the anavar because when I urinate my pee is always yellow or orange. I stay well hydrated. Usually my urine is crystal clear

That’s extremely odd for anavar. It’s common for tren and some other orals but iv never heard anavar to cause this.

Then again I see shit every day that’s new so it wouldn’t be a huge surprise

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Yeah yellow and orange color urine was a red flag for me so I figured that was probably the reason. I’m used to my pee being pretty much clear as water every time I pee not yellow every time lol

Could’ve been the Nolva as well? Or in combination. I also dropped the Nolva before the anavar a few weeks back.

I’m at least going to take some time off the anavar to give my organs rest and time to flush themselves.

Maybe my body just doesn’t agree with that oral. That’s probably the last time I ever run an oral just for the health reasons and organ health.

Its not necessarily a red flag. For somone not using drugs it is but some drugs are broken down and cause orange piss. My piss gets rust colored and stinks on tren unless I drink 1.5-2 gallons a day. It doesn’t mean your dehydrated or that your kidneys are beings stressed sometimes its just the metabolites of the drugs being excreted.

At the same time you can confirm this thru blood test to give you a peace of mind. Anavar isn’t known for being real hepatoxic if it’s real var. My liver has gotten pretty out of wack before at the end of a cycle and I had absolutely zero physical symptoms of anything. Withing 45 days it was back to normal.

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Ahhh I understand. I should’ve questioned this or mentioned it earlier because I feel absolutely fine just the color of my urine is the only thing that concerned me.

I trust my source a lot but then again who knows maybe it’s low dose winny lol. I never tested it on a test kit. But I know when I take it my labido is insane even though it already is, and I can really see the veins in my chest, shoulders and arms.

Also it’s weird maybe it’s just me but shortly after I take it, it’s like I can taste it in my breath when I breath and my heart beats higher BPMs for a tiny bit. Not sure how to explain but that’s what happens when I take it.

This is also new to me lol. Again I’m not doubting your source but just saying iv never heard this… Maybe placebo?

Lol I’m serious dude those were my thoughts after taking it but idk maybe it is the placebo effect…