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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
While I’m not a Guzman ‘fan’, I think he’s an alright guy. He tracks his macros, but I think the ‘hardgainer’ thing is just something to get viewers. I saw that video and I think he ate like a legitimate eggs/rice meal in the morning, has some candy, ate some chiptole, had some cereal and than had another ‘real’ meal of like 10oz chicken and rice. Which to me isn’t that bad. That’s 3 legitimate meat/starch meals + 2 bonus things to push carbs up.

The above example meal plan you gave, while it would work, is at least 300g of protein. That would make me feel like shit. lol. Unless you really like protein, Idk why you’d do that, at least as a natty (on gear obviously protein being higher will definitely have some benefits).

Now, with the food quality thing, I think what you’re kind of getting at is maybe just simple micronutrients, which people usually disregard when they go on a IIFYM yolo style diet. I’ve felt shitty before eating a ton of calories, but once i looked at my MICROS and saw I was devoid in certain things, I felt way better. I take a digestive pill now and again, I eat 2-4 servings of veggies everyday, and 1-2 servings of fruit. Honestly in a surplus, this next bulk I’ll probably add in a good deal of my carbs from fruit because of the nutrients, and I’ve noticed I have more energy since hitting my micros more, which leads to better gym performance. Another thing is fiber: someone eating your diet is going to have a LOT more fiber, their body will probably digest and utilize more of the food, so yeah in that regard I get where you’re coming from. Eating 500g of carbs from foods that you shit out an hour later won’t help much. lol

I guess what I’m saying is I think that the BB’ing ‘chikan rice and brokly’ thing DOES work, but for some it’s not feasible, and it work because of the MICROS that are easily obtained when hitting your MACROS with those foods. I genuinely feel someone could eat 500 carbs from mostly shit and all their protein from powder, but if they ate 8-12 servings of fruits and veggies and just made sure fiber game was on point, they’d be just as fine.

Sorry for the novel, just want to give a somewhat ‘agreeing’ perspective from coming from an alternative POV (my styles of eating and yours are obviously different as seen in the past lol)

TL;DR most the time ‘hardgainers’ are people who aren’t taking precautions to digest the calories they’re actually consuming[/quote]

Ok see I understand, and I’m not disagreeing with your POV on this. Its when the fuckers comment saying how they eat like that how he did in the video daily with 5000+ calories bitching they can’t gain weight when they don’t understand that its not just calories and macros that matter, its the micros/quality (what we are saying) that matter more

I know I might get flamed in one way or another for saying this, but I think that certain “greens” products, especially if taken in double-doses, can make a big difference in a diet that’s been focused purely on calories and protein. Whether the greens products are better or worse than just eating your damn vegetables, I think the jury is still out, but it provides a means for people who have the money but not the appetite to otherwise get their vegetables.

[quote]LoRez wrote:
I know I might get flamed in one way or another for saying this, but I think that certain “greens” products, especially if taken in double-doses, can make a big difference in a diet that’s been focused purely on calories and protein. Whether the greens products are better or worse than just eating your damn vegetables, I think the jury is still out, but it provides a means for people who have the money but not the appetite to otherwise get their vegetables.[/quote]

Oh wont argue with this at all, if you can get what you need in terms of greens in a convenient condensed pill form and can afford it fuck it take it lol why not you know.

although I think most people are better served eating them, if for no other reason because they provide a filler effect for meals that might leave you starving when cuttng without them

something different…

7/21/14

208.0 BW

At universal

Bench

-Bench
45x12
95x8
135x5
185x3
225x3 @7
255x3 @9
240x3x5 @8, 8, 8.5, 8.5, 9

-Close Grip Incline
45x12
135x4
185x4 @8
205x4 @10
195x4x2 @9, 10

-Seated BTN Press (setsx reps) 4x5
-Lat Pulldowns 4x10

I actually had fun doing this… first time in a long time was very productive and part of the reason I started lifting… pretty happy

7/23/14

208.0 bw

W1D2C1 RTS VOLUME

At universal

DEADLIFT

-Deadlift (ERM=539)
135x8
225x5
275x2
315x2
365x2
405x2 @7 -added belt here
455x2 @8
485x2 @9 - rep pr… probably more of an @8 but playing it safe. Deffinetely had 1-3 reps left in me
460x2 @8
460x2 @9

-Pause Squat (ERM=409)
45x5
135x5
225x5
275x5 @8
315x5 @9 - pr was very happy with these but gassed so no fatigue work

-Deficit SLDLs
(225x6)x4

-ab Rollouts
0x0 - skipped

Notes:
-skipped abs as well as pause squats with the load drops… was so gassed out
-SLDL was done light and DOH grip

7/24/14

207.4 bw

W1D3C1 RTS VOLUME

At universal

BENCH 2

-Close-grip Bench (erm=294 eh bit high I think)
45x12
95x8
135x5
185x2
225x2 @7 add wraps
245x2 @8
265x2 @8.5-9 2-3 reps left in me… PR
250x2 @8
250x2 @8.5
250x2 @9

-Slingshot Bench (erm= 393 deffinetely high lol)
245x4 @5 add wraps
295x4 @8
315x4 @9
300x4 @9

-Close grip Floor PRess (paused) 3x5
-Supported Machine Row 4x10

powabuilda mode engaged…

7/30/14

208.0 BW

At universal

DEADLIFT

-Deadlift (sumo)
135x8
225x5
275x3
315x1x2
365x1
385x10 - this is awesome for my sumo pull… working on sumos to try something new… they actually felt amazing but we will see what happens as the #s go up

-Yates Rows
185x12
195x12
205x12 - all strict

-Neutral grip Pulldowns
140x12
150x12
160x12 pr

-1 Arm Barbell Row
+50x12
+60x12
+70x12
+80x12 pretty good… +Straos

-Barbell Curls
65x15
70x15
75x15

-Dumbell Curls (seated)
20x15
22.5x15
25x15

going up on all these weights next time

RTS style training is great.I think you’ll like it.

8/4/14

206.2 BW

At universal

BENCH

-Bench (x5@9-10) (Paused, wraps)
45x12
95x8
135x5
185x5 @6
225x5 @7
245x5 @9
245x5 @10 done fatigue stop… Iffy day on bench was exhausted today have had a rough weekend very busy

-CG Bench (x3@8-9) (TNG, wraps)
135x3
185x3 @7
235x3 @8
235x3 @8
235x3 @9 done fatigue stop

-Dips
bwx15x2

-JM Press
65x15x2

-Pulldowns 45 total reps @140

[quote]budreiser wrote:
RTS style training is great.I think you’ll like it.[/quote]

Working on trying to understand my RPEs it seems like im always operating at 9-10 which isnt good

keep forgetting to post very little time lately to get on the forums

8/5/14

SQUAT

-Squat
45x12
135x5
185x3
225x1
275x1
315x3
360x3 -+belt +wraps
405x6 @8.5
360x3
315x3 - -belt -wraps

-Front Squat
145x8
170x8
195x6 @7

-Chins
bwx10x2
bwx9/6/6

-ab pulldowns
6x15x5

8/7/14

BENCH

-Bench (cg)
45x12
95x8
135x5
155x3
180x3 -+wraps
205x3
230x9 @9
255x1 @7
265x1 @8 misgrooved a little
205x3
180x20 @9.5

-Dumbell Bench
70x15x3

-Dips
bwx10x4

-JM Press
75x15x5

8/9/14

?BW

at universal

DEADLIFT

A) Sumo Deadlift
135x8
225x5
275x3
315x1
365x5 +belt
385x5
405x5x2 @6
365x5

B)Sumo Block Pull
405x6 -+belt
445x6

C1) Lat Pulldown 3x12
C2) Dumbell Row 3x12

D) Leg Curls 1x100

8/11/14

? BW

At universal

AUXILLARY

A) Pec Deck 3x15
B) Pushdowns 3x20
C) Lat Raise 3x15
D) Incline Machine Press 3x15
E) Dumbell Press 4x15
F) Hammer Curls 3x15

Took 30 minutes

8/12/14

? bw

At universal

A) Squat
45x12
135x5
185x3
225x1
275x5 -+belt
315x5
345x5 -+wraps
375x5
405x5 @6-7

B) Pause Squat
275x6 -+Belt
315x6 - +1 rep pr

C) Arched Back SSB GMs
(45x12)x3 - pretending bar is 45… kept these very light was toastd

D) Reverse Hyper
(50x12)x3

E) Leg Extensions
3x100

8/13/14

? BW

At universal

BENCH

A) Bench (paused)
45x12
95x8
135x5
165x5
185x5
205x5
225x5
240x5 @6

B) Wide Grip Bench
225x6
235x6

C) Fat Bar Floor Press
(165x12)x3

D) JM Press
(85x12)x3 pr

E) Cable Flyes
50x100

Done.

Except for changing deads to conventional, and adding in shrugs on that day these are the movements Ill be sticking with for the next 10-20 weeks

8/15/14

? BW

At Universal

DEADLIFT

A) Deadlift
135x8
225x5
275x1
315x1
365x4 -+belt
385x4
405x4
425x4 @4… literally had 6+ more reps than me… supposed to be @6 but shut it down here

B) Sumo BLock PUll
405x6 -+belt
425x6
455x6 - PR

C) Dumbell Row
(85x12)x4

D) Shrugs
(225x12)x4

E) Leg Curls
70x100

8/17/14

? BW

At universal

AUX

A) Pec Deck 3x15
B) Pushdowns 3x20
C) Lat Raise 3x15
D) Incline Machine Press
E) Dumbell Press 4x12 @50, 60, 70, 80 all paused… pretty good pre-exhauseted
F) Dumbell Curls 3x15

8/20/14

206.2 bw

At universal

BENCH

A) Bench
45x12
95x8
135x5
155x3
165x5
190x5
215x11 -+wraps
(165x8)x5

B) JM Press
95x10x3

C) Pulldowns
150x12x3

Notes: supposed to be rows but low back is feeling iffy/weak so didnt risk that would rather save it for pulls

so as of right now something is legitimately wrong in my low back/hips so taking time off from squatting/pulling heavy till i feel better and rehabbing it… until then bench only here we come

8/23/14

? BW

At home

BENCH

A) Bench
45x12
95x8
135x5
185x3
225x1
235x10 -+wraps deffinetely a rep pr

B) Dead Bench
205x6 -+wraps christ these are hard ill probably pick up weight fast on them though

C) Dumbell Bench 3x15
D) Dips 3x12
E) Incline Bench 3x15
F) 3x15

Notes:
-E and f should be incline machine and pec dec but at home no such option… so next time.

  • Being at home made this day generally wierd but again, deff room to progress

[quote]PlainPat wrote:
so as of right now something is legitimately wrong in my low back/hips so taking time off from squatting/pulling heavy till i feel better and rehabbing it… until then bench only here we come

8/23/14

? BW

At home

BENCH

A) Bench
235x10 [/quote]
Impressive set