Consider that the poster along with any under 18ers weren’t even semen yet when these songs came out…
So that’s what depression is like.
[quote]LoneLobo wrote:
Doc Stig wrote:
Man, living at home is such a drag
Now your mom threw away your best porno mag
Not by Hilary Duff
Your mom busted in and said what’s that noise
Aww, mom you’re just jealous, it’s the beastie boys![/quote]
haha! I shouted that last line out evey time!
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
So I take it that I’m a minority in that my parents got big into fitness in the early 80’s and understand what PWO nutrition is all about and what eating for size means. My Dad also taught me how to train and eat accordingly, and helped pick out my first protein powders. Funny.[/quote]
I’m with you. My dad was always an athlete and into healthy eating and it eventually rubbed off on me. My dad thought protein powder was kinda dumb for many years because I should be getting my protein from whole foods, though now he uses it sometimes for convenience too. I was never fat and I was always sctive so there was never any pressure not to eat as much as I wanted.
6 eggs and four peices of toast is a big breakfast to you? wow. You are sixteen?
At sixteen, I could eat 3.5 pounds of prime rib and 3 deserts at the local buffet. I didn’t eat anything else with it, but take 3.5 pounds of prime rib to understand how much that is by itself. You parents must really nibble away like little mice.
Tell your dad that your thankful that they are willing to feed you enough that you don’t go hungry. He might mellow out a little after that.
[quote]BIGRAGOO wrote:
So I take it that I’m a minority in that my parents got big into fitness in the early 80’s and understand what PWO nutrition is all about and what eating for size means. My Dad also taught me how to train and eat accordingly, and helped pick out my first protein powders. Funny.[/quote]
Unfortunatley you are the minority in that respect.
Hopefully my daughter will be saying the same thing about my wife and I when she gets older. She already likes Metabolic Drive bars…she’s 2 1/2 years old.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
6 eggs and four peices of toast is a big breakfast to you? wow. You are sixteen?
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He didn’t say that.
He said his father shakes his head in disgust when he sees him eat that, as if to imply that his father sees it as a big breakfast.
To the original poster, you might have a chance getting through to them if you have them check out some articles that have recent references. Pick nutritional articles that are well written, clear, and to the point.
Just don’t get obviously frustrated with them (I know that’s hard to do sometimes).
When it comes down to it, it’s their house, their rules, you’re their son.
Last resort, sneak the extra food when they’re not around.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
E-man wrote:
slimjim wrote:
Name this tune:
You know, parents are the same,
no matter time nor place
They don’t understand that us kids are gonna make some mistakes
So tell you other kids all across the land
There’s no need to argue,
parents just don’t understand
Sound like it could be the newest Hillary Duff jam.
You deserve death for even jokingly relating that song to Hillary Duff.[/quote]
That’s nothing. Britney Spear committed the ultimate buy covertuning (pre-junkie) Bobby Brown’s song “My perogative”.
Nothing’s sacred anymore.
[quote]tmay11 wrote:
Another thing that pisses me off is how my Dad sterotypes anybody who lifts weights as “muscleheads” and a bunch of big oafs.
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All you have to do is prove that sterotype wrong to him. Make sure you are putting more time in to your school work then you are putting in to the gym. Get good grades. Then you can show him that you are not a “meathead” and show that you are a sensible young man capable of making smart decisions about your body.
Thanks for the help
Why not sit your parents down or simply broach the subject at dinner? I never understood kids who don’t communicate with their parents. They’re real people and not out to “get you.” I completely avoided all the BS surrounding curfews, drinking, and what not by just being upfront and honest with them.
Explain to them your reasons for working out and minding your nutrition. Tell them about your goals - share a little bit of the passion you have for weight training with them! Don’t be the prototypical teenager who still thinks it’s “uncool” to be “friends” with your parents. Remember, they’re real people too.
[quote]SWR-1222D wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
So I take it that I’m a minority in that my parents got big into fitness in the early 80’s and understand what PWO nutrition is all about and what eating for size means. My Dad also taught me how to train and eat accordingly, and helped pick out my first protein powders. Funny.
Unfortunatley you are the minority in that respect.[/quote]
For real. I got no help in lifting from my parents. There was no aid in getting more food and I had to hide any supplements that I did use. It is why I gained very little weight at all until I moved out and went to college. Many older people are stuck in their mode of thinking. They don’t see any other alternatives to what they want to believe is right. It becomes all they are willing to see and understand. that makes it useless to sit there and try to defend bodybuilding and weight lifting to people who simply want to believe it is wrong.
I’m 17, and am eating freakish amounts in anyone’s opinions (even my classmates at my boy’s boarding school)… my parents and my step mom just chalk it up to that I’m growing. Tell your parents that you need more caloric intake for your body to develop… it’s not like you’d be lying.
All else fails, just bash thier heads and go ARRRRRGH! Then beat your chest.
[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
I’m 17, and am eating freakish amounts in anyone’s opinions (even my classmates at my boy’s boarding school)… my parents and my step mom just chalk it up to that I’m growing. Tell your parents that you need more caloric intake for your body to develop… it’s not like you’d be lying.
All else fails, just bash thier heads and go ARRRRRGH! Then beat your chest.[/quote]
Then eat them. Anyone have the nutrient breakdown for humans? Prof, you have to have this somewhere, we know about all those children you snack on.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
SWR-1222D wrote:
BIGRAGOO wrote:
So I take it that I’m a minority in that my parents got big into fitness in the early 80’s and understand what PWO nutrition is all about and what eating for size means. My Dad also taught me how to train and eat accordingly, and helped pick out my first protein powders. Funny.
Unfortunatley you are the minority in that respect.
For real. I got no help in lifting from my parents. There was no aid in getting more food and I had to hide any supplements that I did use. It is why I gained very little weight at all until I moved out and went to college. Many older people are stuck in their mode of thinking. They don’t see any other alternatives to what they want to believe is right. It becomes all they are willing to see and understand. that makes it useless to sit there and try to defend bodybuilding and weight lifting to people who simply want to believe it is wrong.[/quote]
Yea i’m 19 and going to a local university(I drive 20 mins to get to school), and my parents are very hypocritical about everything. It takes a LONG time to bring them around on anything. I tried the V-diet for 2days and if you let them tell it I was going to get mal nourished, yet I get nagged about not cutting more weight. Anyone got any advice on how to convince them the V-Diet is ok ? I REALLY want to get on it, since with the average ammount of weight lost on it I would be able to make weight for PLC.
my parents know why im eating the amounts I do,even though my dad hates that I eat at all.The won’t let me have any supps even if I buy them,but they dont mind feeding me even tough money is tight.
And if you just can’t get through to them then I agree with whoever said sneak it.
[quote]jmwintenn wrote:
my parents know why im eating the amounts I do,even though my dad hates that I eat at all.The won’t let me have any supps even if I buy them,but they dont mind feeding me even tough money is tight.
And if you just can’t get through to them then I agree with whoever said sneak it.[/quote]
You could always ask a friend to keep it at their house, it’d be even better if that friend lifted with you, so he could bring you what you needed after the gym. You could ask him to bring a bar or two during school. Give him shaker bottles, have him scoop whatever you need in there, and bring it to school- pour a bottle of water in it when you need it.
There are plenty of ways to get around your parents not allowing supps.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
For real. I got no help in lifting from my parents. There was no aid in getting more food and I had to hide any supplements that I did use. It is why I gained very little weight at all until I moved out and went to college. Many older people are stuck in their mode of thinking. They don’t see any other alternatives to what they want to believe is right. It becomes all they are willing to see and understand. that makes it useless to sit there and try to defend bodybuilding and weight lifting to people who simply want to believe it is wrong.[/quote]
If someone ever spoke closer to what I do, this would be it. My lockers at school are beautiful places to hide my stuff. I get very little support with my lifting and putting on weight. After I stopped playing football, they were wondering why I still lifted weights (possibly for enjoyment?), and even the most minor supplements such as vitamins, which I see as a necessity are a definite no.
The nutrition is what gets me. I can’t have protein powders to make shakes, but I can drink those stupid boost drinks. Not to mention that my lunch consists of oreos, doritos, milk, some turkey and cheese sandwiches, I think it’s no mystery why I have a hard time adding weight year after year.
[quote]WildcatBaseball wrote:
Professor X wrote:
For real. I got no help in lifting from my parents. There was no aid in getting more food and I had to hide any supplements that I did use. It is why I gained very little weight at all until I moved out and went to college. Many older people are stuck in their mode of thinking. They don’t see any other alternatives to what they want to believe is right. It becomes all they are willing to see and understand. that makes it useless to sit there and try to defend bodybuilding and weight lifting to people who simply want to believe it is wrong.
If someone ever spoke closer to what I do, this would be it. My lockers at school are beautiful places to hide my stuff. I get very little support with my lifting and putting on weight. After I stopped playing football, they were wondering why I still lifted weights (possibly for enjoyment?), and even the most minor supplements such as vitamins, which I see as a necessity are a definite no.
The nutrition is what gets me. I can’t have protein powders to make shakes, but I can drink those stupid boost drinks. Not to mention that my lunch consists of oreos, doritos, milk, some turkey and cheese sandwiches, I think it’s no mystery why I have a hard time adding weight year after year.[/quote]
It gets better. By the time I got to college and was actually able to back up what I knew with regular gym access and the ability to hit the lunch line 2-3 times a visit, I gained so quickly that people didn’t recognize me a year later.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
tmay11 wrote:
Does anybody else here who still lives with thier parents have problems with them regarding your food intake. I guess my parents are very “old school” in there train of thought and they don’t understand why I need to eat so much. I have tried to explain it to them but they just keep ranting on about how I don’t need that much food and it’s unhealthy to eat past the point of being full. My father looks at me in disgust when he sees me eat 6 eggs and 4 peices of toast for breakfast. Another thing that pisses me off is how my Dad sterotypes anybody who lifts weights as “muscleheads” and a bunch of big oafs.
How can I explain it to them and how did/do you deal with it?
-thanks for letting me rant!
Move out. [/quote]
lol, I think that sums it up. They won’t change their opinions on your eating habits; trying to convince them to change won’t get far most likely. One other non-drastic alternative is to say something like you’ll only be eating like this for such and such a time until you get your goals - that may stop them hassling you somewhat.
You’re faced with a very intricate and difficult situation.
Essentially, there’s a power structure involving you and your parents, and you’re currently sitting at the bottom of it.
What needs to happen in order for you to realize your goals is a promotion up the hierarchy ladder, but this will necessarily entail a clash of some sort. You will need to work (and fight, if need be) for the promotion.
Considering the behavior which you have described, it is highly unlikely that your parents will back off or change their minds. Far more likely is the possibility that they will try to impose some new mandate on you in the form of a “compromise.” This is the path which has been recommended to you by several people on this thread, and it is nothing but a trap.
Understand this:
A genuine compromise can only be made when two parties approach one another on equal terms. If the terms are unequal, then there is no need for compromise; the stronger side will devour the weaker. This is a basic law of nature; it is by no means quaint. It applies to all human interactions.
A compromise will result in a net loss on your part, because you are currently the weakest side in this power equation. You will have everything to lose. Your parents, nothing. If, for example, you take the advice of “doing well in school” in order to make a show of your academic devotion, you will find yourself in a constant struggle to keep up the new image while still pursuing your real interests. Your parents will immediately seize on any new mistakes you make and the penalties for these transgressions will increase in severity. The higher they climb, the farther they fall…
Yet, this doesn’t have to be the case. Not if you follow the advice which I’m about to give you. First of all, everything I’ve stated here is under the assumption that your parents are an active obstruction to your goals, rather than a mere nuisance. If this is not the case – if your parents are giving you crap about your habits, but show no signs of forcibly preventing you from achieving them – then learn the art agreeing with the master, then doing as you please.
So this finally brings us to the issue of the necessary clash between you and your parents, the “power restructuring”, if you will. First, you need to ensure that you are psychologically capable of withstanding such a restructuring. If you are weak-willed, then it won’t work work: you need to be in a position of inferiority. If, on the other hand, you can truly understand and accept within yourself the need for a shift in the hierarchy, then it will practically occur of it’s own right. Nature will carry out it’s course; you need only have patience throughout and remain steadfast in your convictions at the moment of greatest danger (this will occur precisely before the power restructuring).
The way to do it is by subtly, yet firmly asserting yourself, your own will, in matters in which both you and your parents currently have a stake (or, at least, in which they percieve they have a stake). During this phase, it will be crucial for you to speak in terms of actions rather than words. Your results and subsequent position on the power hierarchy will be directly tied to the extent that you are able to accomplish this.
The greatest mistake you could make at this time would be an attempt to “argue” your way to victory, to somehow reasonably persuade your parents to yield to your ambitions. A debate is always held on equal terms; one participant never enters it with an edge on his opponent. For this reason, a philosophical debate does not reflect the power structure between you and your parents, and it will be useless for accomplishing your goals. Avoid it at all costs.
Remain aloof and self-assured at all times, yet never outwardly defiant. A strong show of defiance will provoke an equally strong retaliation, a crushing rebuke. This is not what you are aiming for. Your goal is to slowly chip away at the foundation of your parents’ power, so that they won’t notice their diminished position until it’s too late.
I’m addressing this issue from the perspective of social dynamics. It may seem a bit theatrical, but it’s completely legitimate and I’m ready to formally defend my views.