Deaf Native American Shot by Police

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Vash wrote:

[quote]Huh? wrote:

The thing is we are pretty much under video and audio surveillance 24/7 these days. We have cameras and microphones in our cars, at the station, in the watch house and lots of cops now wear them on their person. Then there’s CCTV and anyone who carries a cell phone has an easily accessible camera on them, so you never know when you are being videod.
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Doesn’t seem like that’ll be a problem for long - Are Cameras the New Guns?…[/quote]

Abso-fuckin-lutely incredible.[/quote]

Holy crap.

So, because cameras are now showing the world how fucking corrupt many of them are, it is now illegal to tape them?

I mean, seriously, the ONLY reason this isn’t causing national backlash is because many of these people are still unaware of how fucked up many of these guys are.

If it is illegal for a cop to be taped, then it should be illegal for them to tape us and use that in court.

I am amazed by that…but not surprised.

I guess this is the “1%” doing this.

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[quote]In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least three states, it is now illegal to record any on-duty police officer.

Even if the encounter involves you and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a public street where no expectation of privacy exists.[/quote]

Why would a state vote yes for something like that? They just gave their rights away joyfully meaning you can now get beat up by a cop for no reason, catch it on tape, but they will rule it illegal and throw it out because you taped a cop.

Will the “golden 99%” inform us as to why the “1%” is so damn active without restraint?

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My next project is to get a nanny-cam style pin camera (or three) mounted in my ceiling, connected w/ wifi to a small, slim-line desktop pc (with foldout touchscreen) in my center console. Once I have the hardware together, I’ll post the specs/plans in it’s own thread.

It’ll be for insurance purposes in the event of a crash only.

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[quote]Evolv wrote:
Goodness, I don’t understand why some of you are denying that other professions have crap working there? Does anyone remember the surgical technician that fueled her drug habit and replaced used syringes exposing thousands of patients to hepatitis C? Anyone? Anyone? Law enforcement gets hit hard when shit happens, and for good reason, it should not be tolerated. However, it does happen everyday, in every profession. Who does not understand that?

It should be noted that this Seattle officer is no longer in LE.[/quote]

The difference, civilians end up IN JAIL when they murder people or destroy their lives. Police don’t it seems. They simply get fired.

When will this cop be brought up on charges?

Death row?

No?

Didn’t think so.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Holy crap.

So, because cameras are now showing the world how fucking corrupt many of them are, it is now illegal to tape them?

I mean, seriously, the ONLY reason this isn’t causing national backlash is because many of these people are still unaware of how fucked up many of these guys are.

If it is illegal for a cop to be taped, then it should be illegal for them to tape us and use that in court.

I am amazed by that…but not surprised.

I guess this is the “1%” doing this.
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If this isn’t Socialism I don’t know what is.[/quote]

Fixed that for you, Push. Merry Christmas by the way, late I know.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
…Merry Christmas by the way, late I know. [/quote]

You too, friend.[/quote]

Forgot the picture :slight_smile:

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[quote]Vash wrote:
The thing is we are pretty much under video and audio surveillance 24/7 these days. We have cameras and microphones in our cars, at the station, in the watch house and lots of cops now wear them on their person. Then there’s CCTV and anyone who carries a cell phone has an easily accessible camera on them, so you never know when you are being videod.

Doesn’t seem like that’ll be a problem for long - Are Cameras the New Guns?

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This is absolute horse shit.

How the fuck is this even possible?

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Vash wrote:
The thing is we are pretty much under video and audio surveillance 24/7 these days. We have cameras and microphones in our cars, at the station, in the watch house and lots of cops now wear them on their person. Then there’s CCTV and anyone who carries a cell phone has an easily accessible camera on them, so you never know when you are being videod.

Doesn’t seem like that’ll be a problem for long - Are Cameras the New Guns?

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This is absolute horse shit.

How the fuck is this even possible?

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See picture above your quote.

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[quote]Vash wrote:

[quote]tom63 wrote:
This is a small town where there was always a little corruption, but in a way that was acceptable. Then the next generation pushed it. [/quote]

What the fuck? "There was always a little corruption, but in a way that was acceptable. Then the next generation pushed it."

Did you seriously just say that? At what level does corruption go from “little” to “big” to “unacceptable?” These people are in charge of the structures and systems which govern LIVES. How dirty should we let them be?[/quote]

Here’s what I mean. there were always bookies in town. the cops got 500$ per. this is what they always did. I don’t gamble but many people do and didn’t care that the cops were paid off. they had their bookies.

Then the guys decided to demand 1500$. The bookies said fuck off and moved. One went to the FBI and wore a wire. There are a few other incidents.

Now I don’t gamble and don’t give a crap either way. But these guys got greedy and didn’t seem to be policing the way the generation of cops before them were. Small town bullshit can be tolerated by people if the job is done correctly. you start slacking off and thinking your some mob.

I’m not saying I like it, but there was nothing I could do about this without taking some kind of hit business wise at the least. So I let it play out and waited for the clowns to fuck up like many in my position thought they would. And fuck up they did in a huge way.

They were arrogant and thought they were above the law. And they are facing serious federal charges that will put them away for 10 to forever.

So my attitude in this town of 5500 was I couldn’t do anything to change it, would hurt myself if I did anything, and honestly thought that they would screw themselves eventually.

Which happened. So to me if a guy is keeping the streets safe and some bookie gives him money to stay open, I don’t care much. If he is actually policing. If that’s not happening I look at things differently. I’m not advocating this, just pointing out that the average Joe might not be able to do anything about a situation like this.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Vash wrote:
The thing is we are pretty much under video and audio surveillance 24/7 these days. We have cameras and microphones in our cars, at the station, in the watch house and lots of cops now wear them on their person. Then there’s CCTV and anyone who carries a cell phone has an easily accessible camera on them, so you never know when you are being videod.

Doesn’t seem like that’ll be a problem for long - Are Cameras the New Guns?

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This is absolute horse shit.

How the fuck is this even possible?

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See picture above your quote. [/quote]

Please. I am all for a joke, but the reason shit like that exists is because you have half a country who hardly ever experiences this crap because of their skin color or to a lesser degree, age. As a result, they see cops as “positive trusting role models” and not people you should be skeptical of.

There is a reason cops are not trusted in minority communities…and isn’t because all of the minorities are criminals or bad people. It is because we have a LONG history of shit like this happened and cops getting off scot free until cameras popped up everywhere.

NOW, since they are on film and suffering because of it, they get the laws changed because the majority never had a problem to start with.

That isn’t fucking “socialism”. It is the by product of a still racist society that has not outgrown it yet.

You would have to think every instance a minority has complained about this to be false to vote that in OR think it could never happen to you.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Vash wrote:
The thing is we are pretty much under video and audio surveillance 24/7 these days. We have cameras and microphones in our cars, at the station, in the watch house and lots of cops now wear them on their person. Then there’s CCTV and anyone who carries a cell phone has an easily accessible camera on them, so you never know when you are being videod.

Doesn’t seem like that’ll be a problem for long - Are Cameras the New Guns?

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This is absolute horse shit.

How the fuck is this even possible?

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See picture above your quote. [/quote]

Please. I am all for a joke, but the reason shit like that exists is because you have half a country who hardly ever experiences this crap because of their skin color or to a lesser degree, age. As a result, they see cops as “positive trusting role models” and not people you should be skeptical of.

There is a reason cops are not trusted in minority communities…and isn’t because all of the minorities are criminals or bad people. It is because we have a LONG history of shit like this happened and cops getting off scot free until cameras popped up everywhere.

NOW, since they are on film and suffering because of it, they get the laws changed because the majority never had a problem to start with.

That isn’t fucking “socialism”. It is the by product of a still racist society that has not outgrown it yet.

You would have to think every instance a minority has complained about this to be false to vote that in OR think it could never happen to you.
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X I grew up with moon shiners in East tennessee do you really think they had good relationships with cops? I know I can not relate to your view point but all I know is we as a society are more and more dependent on our “government” to take care of everything. What happens when the “government” that being local, state or federal abuse their power? You just said it above this cop will not be prosecuted. Can you bring legal action against our “Government”? and I am not talking party line bullshit here, in my mind both parties could give a shit about X, Push or myself. They all care about $ and staying in power and we are left with the scraps and getting pushed around.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least three states, it is now illegal to record any on-duty police officer.

Even if the encounter involves you and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a public street where no expectation of privacy exists.[/quote]

Why would a state vote yes for something like that? They just gave their rights away joyfully meaning you can now get beat up by a cop for no reason, catch it on tape, but they will rule it illegal and throw it out because you taped a cop.

Will the “golden 99%” inform us as to why the “1%” is so damn active without restraint?[/quote]

Having grown up in Baltimore and spent plenty of time in PG county, I can assure you that these two jurisdictions have WAY more than a “1% bad apple rate”. In the last ten years I have been pulled over in PG county 4 times and beaten FOR NO REASON. We had a whole thread about it a year ago where every one jumped on my ass saying, “well you MUST have done SOMETHING”. No. I didn’t. I just don’t drive through PG county anymore.

When I was arrested for robbery when I was 18, the Baltimore cops beat me to within an inch of my life saying I “resisted arrest”. Again, I didn’t. I was pissing blood for a week. Now I’m not saying that I was innocent - I wasn’t and I did my time (3.5 years in prison), but when you throw a handcuffed person in a cell and proceed to kick him in the groin, ribs and kidneys until he passes out, I think you are overstepping your boundaries.

Today I am friends with several cops who I have a history with (went to HS together, my cousin, former brother in law, etc…) And they ALL tell me about how they abuse their suspects. My former brother in law is a fucking TRIP! He calls me up to tell me about how he kicked the shit out of this guy and put on the report that he went for his gun. He’s crooked as FUCK!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Vash wrote:
The thing is we are pretty much under video and audio surveillance 24/7 these days. We have cameras and microphones in our cars, at the station, in the watch house and lots of cops now wear them on their person. Then there’s CCTV and anyone who carries a cell phone has an easily accessible camera on them, so you never know when you are being videod.

Doesn’t seem like that’ll be a problem for long - Are Cameras the New Guns?

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This is absolute horse shit.

How the fuck is this even possible?

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See picture above your quote. [/quote]

Please. I am all for a joke, but the reason shit like that exists is because you have half a country who hardly ever experiences this crap because of their skin color or to a lesser degree, age. As a result, they see cops as “positive trusting role models” and not people you should be skeptical of.

There is a reason cops are not trusted in minority communities…and isn’t because all of the minorities are criminals or bad people. It is because we have a LONG history of shit like this happened and cops getting off scot free until cameras popped up everywhere.

NOW, since they are on film and suffering because of it, they get the laws changed because the majority never had a problem to start with.

That isn’t fucking “socialism”. It is the by product of a still racist society that has not outgrown it yet.

You would have to think every instance a minority has complained about this to be false to vote that in OR think it could never happen to you.
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“Please.” Yourself.

I’m not going to argue that racism still exists… To argue that would be naive at best and flat out ignorant at worst. But to blame the above article on racism is ridiculous.

It’s a law acknowledging the fact that cops sometimes abuse their power and said states have made it illegal to obtain hard evidence of this. That’s it.

Stop acting like there aren’t black/hispanic/asian cops out on the force who abuse their power, too.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Vash wrote:
The thing is we are pretty much under video and audio surveillance 24/7 these days. We have cameras and microphones in our cars, at the station, in the watch house and lots of cops now wear them on their person. Then there’s CCTV and anyone who carries a cell phone has an easily accessible camera on them, so you never know when you are being videod.

Doesn’t seem like that’ll be a problem for long - Are Cameras the New Guns?

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This is absolute horse shit.

How the fuck is this even possible?

[/quote]

See picture above your quote. [/quote]

Please. I am all for a joke, but the reason shit like that exists is because you have half a country who hardly ever experiences this crap because of their skin color or to a lesser degree, age. As a result, they see cops as “positive trusting role models” and not people you should be skeptical of.

There is a reason cops are not trusted in minority communities…and isn’t because all of the minorities are criminals or bad people. It is because we have a LONG history of shit like this happened and cops getting off scot free until cameras popped up everywhere.

NOW, since they are on film and suffering because of it, they get the laws changed because the majority never had a problem to start with.

That isn’t fucking “socialism”. It is the by product of a still racist society that has not outgrown it yet.

You would have to think every instance a minority has complained about this to be false to vote that in OR think it could never happen to you.
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“Please.” Yourself.

I’m not going to argue that racism still exists… To argue that would be naive at best and flat out ignorant at worst. But to blame the above article on racism is ridiculous.

It’s a law acknowledging the fact that cops sometimes abuse their power and said states have made it illegal to obtain hard evidence of this. That’s it.

Stop acting like there aren’t black/hispanic/asian cops out on the force who abuse their power, too.[/quote]

I didn’t say that and it wasn’t the point. You can bet that a majority black or hispanic voting populace would not vote something like that in. It doesn’t mean whites NEVER get harassed. It means that on average, minorities feel the brunt of this shit in far greater numbers and as such, it does not surprise me that a majority white populace would vote for something like that, BECAUSE THEY ARE UNAWARE that cops are not the saints they may have been in the past.

That doesn’t mean there aren’t bad cops who are black, white, or hispanic. In fact, they may often be the worst depending on the area…and they still act against their own races in majority.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Vash wrote:
The thing is we are pretty much under video and audio surveillance 24/7 these days. We have cameras and microphones in our cars, at the station, in the watch house and lots of cops now wear them on their person. Then there’s CCTV and anyone who carries a cell phone has an easily accessible camera on them, so you never know when you are being videod.

Doesn’t seem like that’ll be a problem for long - Are Cameras the New Guns?

[/quote]

This is absolute horse shit.

How the fuck is this even possible?

[/quote]

See picture above your quote. [/quote]

Please. I am all for a joke, but the reason shit like that exists is because you have half a country who hardly ever experiences this crap because of their skin color or to a lesser degree, age. As a result, they see cops as “positive trusting role models” and not people you should be skeptical of.

There is a reason cops are not trusted in minority communities…and isn’t because all of the minorities are criminals or bad people. It is because we have a LONG history of shit like this happened and cops getting off scot free until cameras popped up everywhere.

NOW, since they are on film and suffering because of it, they get the laws changed because the majority never had a problem to start with.

That isn’t fucking “socialism”. It is the by product of a still racist society that has not outgrown it yet.

You would have to think every instance a minority has complained about this to be false to vote that in OR think it could never happen to you.
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“Please.” Yourself.

I’m not going to argue that racism still exists… To argue that would be naive at best and flat out ignorant at worst. But to blame the above article on racism is ridiculous.

It’s a law acknowledging the fact that cops sometimes abuse their power and said states have made it illegal to obtain hard evidence of this. That’s it.

Stop acting like there aren’t black/hispanic/asian cops out on the force who abuse their power, too.[/quote]

I didn’t say that and it wasn’t the point. You can bet that a majority black or hispanic voting populace would not vote something like that in. It doesn’t mean whites NEVER get harassed. It means that on average, minorities feel the brunt of this shit in far greater numbers and as such, it does not surprise me that a majority white populace would vote for something like that, BECAUSE THEY ARE UNAWARE that cops are not the saints they may have been in the past.

That doesn’t mean there aren’t bad cops who are black, white, or hispanic. In fact, they may often be the worst depending on the area…and they still act against their own races in majority.[/quote]

I couldn’t imagine ANYONE, regardless of the fact that they could be unaware of the fact that minorities receive the brunt of this shit, regardless of race, regardless of age, voting that law in.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

I couldn’t imagine ANYONE, regardless of the fact that they could be unaware of the fact that minorities receive the brunt of this shit, regardless of race, regardless of age, voting that law in.

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Correction: You can’t imagine anyone in YOUR GENERATION doing that. I have heard my entire life that blacks only get harassed by cops more because we bring it on ourselves. With thinking like that, it is clear they think it can not happen to them.

If you are over the age of 40 and white, I would think it a rare occurrence for you to be fucked with as much as I have been.

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^ I dont think anything was voted in, they are considering it part of wire tapping etc and obstruction of justice etc. So they are using current laws to get what they need. When the police are kicking your ass who do you go to complain to? When we have actual documented case of an officer violating the law he is supposed to uphold and then is not subject to the same law himself Where are we at as a nation?

Where is Jewbacca he is a lawyer and a jew I am sure he would really have insightful commentary on this?